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Change Word in Jester Message
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:21 pmby SarahSaurus
When a jester is lynched, that message pops up: "The Jester will get his revenge from the grave!" I noticed that this doesn't change to say "her revenge" for female players. I'm pretty sure other messages like "We found SarahSaurus dead in her home last night. She was stabbed by a Serial Killer" do change based on the gender of your character skin. So I know this is a really tiny thing, and it's not super important, but maybe at some point for the sake of consistency could you guys consider changing the jester message based on gender as well?
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:57 pmby MaccaMania
I never noticed this but I agree that it should be changed, since everything else has it. Or else it could be "The Jester will get their revenge from the grave!"
/support
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:00 pmby SarahSaurus
MaccaMania wrote:I never noticed this but I agree that it should be changed, since everything else has it. Or else it could be "The Jester will get their revenge from the grave!"
/support
But technically saying "their" for a single subject isn't actually grammatically correct.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:03 pmby Technetium
SarahSaurus wrote:MaccaMania wrote:I never noticed this but I agree that it should be changed, since everything else has it. Or else it could be "The Jester will get their revenge from the grave!"
/support
But technically saying "their" for a single subject isn't actually grammatically correct.
GRAMMAR NAZI SIEG HEILIt's the closest thing English has to a gender-neutral singular pronoun...
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:28 pmby Megalomancer
Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:12 pmby Harkonnen97
Off-topic: I wonder why does the Jester wants revenge in the first place? His goal is to get lynched, so why does he wants to kill one of the people that helped him achieve his goal?
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:13 pmby Technetium
It's the other way around, the revenge is not for dying, he wants to die because that's how he gets revenge for something that happened before the game started. Whatever that might be.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:57 amby JazzMusicStops
matthew8367 wrote:Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:22 amby Kittenn1011
Technetium wrote:SarahSaurus wrote:MaccaMania wrote:I never noticed this but I agree that it should be changed, since everything else has it. Or else it could be "The Jester will get their revenge from the grave!"
/support
But technically saying "their" for a single subject isn't actually grammatically correct.
GRAMMAR NAZI SIEG HEILIt's the closest thing English has to a gender-neutral singular pronoun...
Some style guides are beginning to accept it as a gender-neutral singular pronoun. I believe APA (American Psychological Association) has started accepting its use.
On topic:
/support.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:35 amby Mroz4k
Or, you could just do as Mathew suggested, and just remove "his" - and problem is solved, plus there would be no need for discussion about whats grammatically correct or not.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:35 amby Technetium
Mroz4k wrote:Or, you could just do as Mathew suggested, and just remove "his" - and problem is solved, plus there would be no need for discussion about whats grammatically correct or not.
Yes.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:32 amby SarahSaurus
I'm pretty sure that grammatically, you're supposed to say his or her. If the gender is unspecified, you're supposed to say "his/her", not "their".
On topic: You could just remove "his", whatever. Either way it would probably only take a couple minutes. Just something I noticed in the game and for the sake of consistency, figured I'd point it out.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:46 amby JazzMusicStops
SarahSaurus wrote:I'm pretty sure that grammatically, you're supposed to say his or her. If the gender is unspecified, you're supposed to say "his/her", not "their".
On topic: You could just remove "his", whatever. Either way it would probably only take a couple minutes. Just something I noticed in the game and for the sake of consistency, figured I'd point it out.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/theirdictionary.com wrote:pronoun
1.
a form of the possessive case of they used as an attributive adjective, before a noun:
their home; their rights as citizens; their departure for Rome.
2.
(used after an indefinite singular antecedent in place of the definite masculine form his or the definite feminine form her):
Someone left their book on the table. Did everyone bring their lunch?
Singular they/their/them
is grammatically correct
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:25 amby Megalomancer
matthew8367 wrote:Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:28 amby Technetium
matthew8367 wrote:matthew8367 wrote:Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.
Technetium wrote:Mroz4k wrote:Or, you could just do as Mathew suggested, and just remove "his" - and problem is solved, plus there would be no need for discussion about whats grammatically correct or not.
Yes.
JammySplodge wrote:matthew8367 wrote:Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.
matthew8367 wrote:Just remove "his". It's still correct that way.
...kupo!
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:14 pmby shapesifter13
Something we should probably change. Good catch. I will put it on the list of things to do.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:29 pmby Harkonnen97
Wouldn't you have to also change the Mayor message then?
"Abigail Hobbs has revealed themself as the Mayor"
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:38 pmby Megalomancer
Harkonnen97 wrote:Wouldn't you have to also change the Mayor message then?
"Abigail Hobbs has revealed themself as the Mayor"
Remove "himself" as well
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:46 pmby MaccaMania
Yeah I agree to just take out the his for the Mayor and Jester message.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:56 amby orangeandblack5
Just have it based on skin like everything else. No need to get all technical when having it work the same way as death messages is fine.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:18 amby SarahSaurus
matthew8367 wrote:Harkonnen97 wrote:Wouldn't you have to also change the Mayor message then?
"Abigail Hobbs has revealed themself as the Mayor"
Remove "himself" as well
Didn't even notice this one, but yeah they could change it too.
Re: Change Word in Jester Message
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Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:28 pmby YuriGirl
SarahSaurus wrote:MaccaMania wrote:I never noticed this but I agree that it should be changed, since everything else has it. Or else it could be "The Jester will get their revenge from the grave!"
/support
But technically saying "their" for a single subject isn't actually grammatically correct.
Usage of singular they dates back to the 14th century and it is only a very recent and seemingly nonsensical push since the 19th century to classify it as grammatically incorrect. No one cared for half a millennium and it's just as proper now as it was then.