DiamondRanger8 wrote:Jailor needs a rework imo. There's no way to directly nerf it besides getting rid of 1 or 2 executions.
alex1234321 wrote:DiamondRanger8 wrote:Jailor needs a rework imo. There's no way to directly nerf it besides getting rid of 1 or 2 executions.
That would still make it op but should probably be done anyway. Jailor just shouldn’t spawn in Ranked. Any nerf that would make it balanced for Ranked would result in massive backlash.
SilverCruz wrote:Little disappointed that the throwaway line about the Jailor was latched onto, honestly. Something does need to be done about that role, but that wasn't really the point.
Also, in general, this game needs more fallbacks to deal with quits. Slapping people on the wrist and saying "No, don't do that, here's a time out." doesn't work, and further punishment would just make the game's atmosphere hostile.
I feel like there should be an end-goal of having a quit bot that can take over for quitters so that a round doesn't get ruined so easily, but just starting with the Godfather/Mafioso specific quit bot as described would be the best place to start since its minimum required behaviour (echo the non-quitter's kill target and be directly controllable by the non-quitter if they are jailed) is pretty straightforward and it would make a huge difference since a Godfather or Mafioso quitting hurts the Mafia way more than a Town quit hurts the Town by way of leaving whoever's left vulnerable to getting deadlocked by the Jailor or an Escort.
Descender wrote:how would you nerf jailor
tip:you dont
the solution is Town Power
SilverCruz wrote:Descender wrote:how would you nerf jailor
tip:you dont
the solution is Town Power
Also since Role Ideas is a dead forum, I'll just tell you this to your face.
Nerf 1 - Jailor can no longer jail someone two nights in a row.
Nerf 2 - Witch now forces Jailor to execute by making them self-target.
Yemac wrote:SilverCruz wrote:Descender wrote:how would you nerf jailor
tip:you dont
the solution is Town Power
Also since Role Ideas is a dead forum, I'll just tell you this to your face.
Nerf 1 - Jailor can no longer jail someone two nights in a row.
Nerf 2 - Witch now forces Jailor to execute by making them self-target.
Nerf 3 - Jailor can't jail a revealed Mayor
Nerf 4 - Tactical Mafia Kills
I like both your nerfs a lot. Witch should be able to make jailor execute more easily than knowing who jailed target is. Would also stop Jailor meta
Yemac wrote:How do you mean? If jailor is bitten, then the Jailor can't jail anymore. And otherwise the vampires can bite the Mayor.
Unless you mean that Jailor exes revealed Mayor because they know they will be bitten, or talked to the vampires to be bitten (which would be throwing)
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:Yemac wrote:How do you mean? If jailor is bitten, then the Jailor can't jail anymore. And otherwise the vampires can bite the Mayor.
Unless you mean that Jailor exes revealed Mayor because they know they will be bitten, or talked to the vampires to be bitten (which would be throwing)
No, im talking when mayor was bitten and jailor isnt bitten
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