Remove permanent bans

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Should we remove permanent bans? (Except for cases of violation of minorities)

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Remove permanent bans

Postby Indian21 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:00 pm

Hello TOS players.
As most of you probably know, you can be suspended from the game if you do not follow the rules and/or guidelines. This is very understandable since we do not want to play with racists or homophobes or spamming people or those who throw the game.
After you've been suspended for 3 times you get banned permanently. And I think that banning people is okay if they discriminate minorities in a harsh way (encouragement to kill/assault jews/gays etc.). But other times people are banned for much less stupidity - such as spamming non-violent phrases or gamethrowing a single game. I think that that isn't fair and that they should simply be suspended for a longer amount of time - a month maybe?
If they can't manage to play the game in a right manner they probably won't come back after a month anyway since it doesn't really interest them. But some of the banned people do really enjoy the game and could obey the rules once again after such a punishment.
And I am definitely not posting this just because I was banned for having an inappropriate nick name (child murderer).

Do you agree with me that permanent bans should be removed (except for cases of violation of minorities - jews/gays/black people/muslims etc.)?
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Descender » Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:04 pm

it used to be after 6 months/a year you could appeal and usually get unbanned if it wasn't hs/h, they changed it when it went p2p because ban evasion was now allowed. imo, this isnt necessary.
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby kosmo16 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 3:33 pm

Well I would be really sad if my account was banned. I have a lot of stuff on it.
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Descender » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:16 pm

kosmo16 wrote:Well I would be really sad if my account was banned. I have a lot of stuff on it.

Just dont break rules
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby SparkingJay » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:43 pm

Google wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:Well I would be really sad if my account was banned. I have a lot of stuff on it.

Just dont break rules

Sometimes you can break rules you didn't even know existed :shrug:

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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Descender » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:44 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:
Google wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:Well I would be really sad if my account was banned. I have a lot of stuff on it.

Just dont break rules

Sometimes you can break rules you didn't even know existed :shrug:

read them?
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby SparkingJay » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm

Google wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
Google wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:Well I would be really sad if my account was banned. I have a lot of stuff on it.

Just dont break rules

Sometimes you can break rules you didn't even know existed :shrug:

read them?

I doubt the majority of the playerbase know everything that is worthy of a suspension/ban.
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby MysticMismagius » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm

The in-game rule page... isn't exactly helpful when it comes to figuring out what will and won't get you banned. There is a more detailed rulebook, but you have to both know that it exists and go out of the way to find it, which most players won't.
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby SparkingJay » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:46 pm

MysticMismagius wrote:The in-game rule page... isn't exactly helpful when it comes to figuring out what will and won't get you banned. There is a more detailed rulebook, but you have to both know that it exists and go out of the way to find it, which most players won't.

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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Descender » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:08 pm

MysticMismagius wrote:The in-game rule page... isn't exactly helpful when it comes to figuring out what will and won't get you banned. There is a more detailed rulebook, but you have to both know that it exists and go out of the way to find it, which most players won't.

Maybe the rules should be updated then
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby MysticMismagius » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:11 pm

Google wrote:
MysticMismagius wrote:The in-game rule page... isn't exactly helpful when it comes to figuring out what will and won't get you banned. There is a more detailed rulebook, but you have to both know that it exists and go out of the way to find it, which most players won't.
Maybe the rules should be updated then
I agree, but the devs won't do it
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Flavorable » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:11 pm

MysticMismagius wrote:The in-game rule page... isn't exactly helpful when it comes to figuring out what will and won't get you banned. There is a more detailed rulebook, but you have to both know that it exists and go out of the way to find it, which most players won't.


I disagree with this, or mostly anyway. Especially with the new P2P rules, which are very lax. Admitting the crime = guilty. Examples named specifically in the ingame rules = guilty.

There's not a whole lot left anymore that is vague, in my opinion.
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby MysticMismagius » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:12 pm

in-game rules. The Trial rulebook is specific enough, but the in-game rulebook is painted with a very broad brush.
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Descender » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:13 pm

MysticMismagius wrote:
Google wrote:
MysticMismagius wrote:The in-game rule page... isn't exactly helpful when it comes to figuring out what will and won't get you banned. There is a more detailed rulebook, but you have to both know that it exists and go out of the way to find it, which most players won't.
Maybe the rules should be updated then
I agree, but the devs won't do it

Are you saying the devs wont reword something that is literally just typing
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby MysticMismagius » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:15 pm

Google wrote:
MysticMismagius wrote:
Google wrote:
MysticMismagius wrote:The in-game rule page... isn't exactly helpful when it comes to figuring out what will and won't get you banned. There is a more detailed rulebook, but you have to both know that it exists and go out of the way to find it, which most players won't.
Maybe the rules should be updated then
I agree, but the devs won't do it
Are you saying the devs wont reword something that is literally just typing


Also it's even less work than typing, they just have to copy/paste the Trial rulebook into the in-game rules
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Descender » Sat Dec 07, 2019 5:26 pm

MysticMismagius wrote:
Google wrote:
MysticMismagius wrote:
Google wrote:
MysticMismagius wrote:The in-game rule page... isn't exactly helpful when it comes to figuring out what will and won't get you banned. There is a more detailed rulebook, but you have to both know that it exists and go out of the way to find it, which most players won't.
Maybe the rules should be updated then
I agree, but the devs won't do it
Are you saying the devs wont reword something that is literally just typing


Also it's even less work than typing, they just have to copy/paste the Trial rulebook into the in-game rules

But thats too complicated for 8 year olds
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby kosmo16 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:11 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:
Google wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
Google wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:Well I would be really sad if my account was banned. I have a lot of stuff on it.

Just dont break rules

Sometimes you can break rules you didn't even know existed :shrug:

read them?

I doubt the majority of the playerbase know everything that is worthy of a suspension/ban.


I know for what you can be suspended and I still couldn't avoid suspension. Did you know that you can be suspended without any guilty report in Trial system and 0 reports on forum?
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Descender » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:13 pm

kosmo16 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
Google wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
Google wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:Well I would be really sad if my account was banned. I have a lot of stuff on it.

Just dont break rules

Sometimes you can break rules you didn't even know existed :shrug:

read them?

I doubt the majority of the playerbase know everything that is worthy of a suspension/ban.


I know for what you can be suspended and I still couldn't avoid suspension. Did you know that you can be suspended without any guilty report in Trial system and 0 reports on forum?

I got permed with none but it doesnt really matter does it
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby SeerSword » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:25 pm

If you're suspended without reports it's because your account was breached and you need to change your password/get in touch with staff.
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Descender » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:33 pm

SeerSword wrote:If you're suspended without reports it's because your account was breached and you need to change your password/get in touch with staff.

Thats a perm though
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby kosmo16 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:33 pm

SeerSword wrote:If you're suspended without reports it's because your account was breached and you need to change your password/get in touch with staff.


No, it was almost 3 years ago, before the breach.
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Descender » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:35 pm

kosmo16 wrote:
SeerSword wrote:If you're suspended without reports it's because your account was breached and you need to change your password/get in touch with staff.


No, it was almost 3 years ago, before the breach.

Manual.
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby kosmo16 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:37 pm

You can be suspended in 4 ways:
  • by being voted guilty in Trial System
  • by valid report on forum
  • by moderator in the game
  • by filtering system
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby Descender » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:38 pm

kosmo16 wrote:You can be suspended in 4 ways:
  • by being voted guilty in Trial System
  • by valid report on forum
  • by moderator in the game
  • by filtering system

Valid report can only be done with trial
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Re: Remove permanent bans

Postby kosmo16 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:39 pm

Google wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:You can be suspended in 4 ways:
  • by being voted guilty in Trial System
  • by valid report on forum
  • by moderator in the game
  • by filtering system

Valid report can only be done with trial


You can report inappropriate usernames and harassment in lobby on forum
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