An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

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An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby cavemonster » Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:32 pm

An option by the friend list or after the game ends that lets you write a name of another player or select the user name of said player after the match ends which then adds it to a banned players list in your own account and after you do that it automatically kicks you out of the server if you get matched with the person who is in that list of player(s) you don't want to play with.


[this is in classic mode] (I know I was asking for it playing in classic)
I just finished a match with gamethrowers in town not just one but a lot. First they killed the doctor right after the serial Killer just died by jailor there was no Counter claims for doc they voted guilty cause someone else called them a commie, A Vigilante who shot the escort after the escort claimed it during the day over the mafioso who was called out by a lookout the day before and they then claimed Tk so vig or vet, a bunch of town who killed the lookout who called out the Mafioso because they got mad at the vig for killing the Escort who claimed during the day. The jailor refused to kill the mafioso after the lookout was killed.

It was framer jailor mafioso and medium left, the mafioso was called out by the now dead lookout who called out the mafioso the jailor kills the framer and mafioso killed the medium so its just the jailor and mafioso left and then leaves the game and mafia wins. Best gamethrowing town I have played with in awhile.
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Re: An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby Soulshade55r » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:49 pm

it's called banne.
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Re: An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby kyuss420 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:41 am

so you want a Blacklist.. so you get kicked from any lobby that someone on your blacklist is queueing in. You also get kicked from a lobby when they join it after you.

Problem this creates -

soulshade blacklists goose(me) and azurilla and cavemonster (we were 3 maf in a 4v4 and didnt vote the guy he found was sus)
azurilla blacklists goose and cavemonster (she visited the vet the next night and we cried at her for doing so)
cavemonster blacklists goose (lets face it, Im an ass)

soulshade sits in a lobby (1) for 8 minutes waiting for it to fill, goose enters as the 14th player, soulshade gets kicked enters another lobby.
soulshade makes new lobby (2), waits 5 minutes, azurilla enters, soulshade gets kicked. cavemonster enters after 2 minutes, azurillia gets kicked.
soulshade enters lobby again (3) waits 2 minutes, azurillia enters, soulshade kicked again
soulshade makes lobby (4) - lobby (2) just filled and game starts, soulshade waits 7 minutes for lobby (3) to fill. lobby (3) fills and game starts.
lobby (1) game ends. goose joins lobby (4), soulshade gets kicked.
soulshade makes lobby (5), waits 7 minutes for lobby (4) to fill. cavemonsters's faction is all dead by night 5, he leaves lobby (2)'s match, cavemonster joins lobby (5), soulshade gets kicked.
soulshade makes lobby (6) waits for lobby (5) to fill. goose died night 1. goose leaves lobby (4)s match, goose joins lobby (5) cavemonster is kicked. cavemonster joins lobby (6). soulshade gets kicked.
soulshade makes lobby (7) waits for lobby (5) to fill, waits for lobby (6) to fill, azurillia finishes lobby (3)s match, joins lobby (5) gets kicked, joins lobby (6), gets kicked, joins lobby (7) soulshade is kicked.


The more players you blacklist, the longer you will be waiting for a match.
The above example is wrong tho, as multiple lobbys wont be generated, soulshade would just be getting insta kicked every time he joined a lobby and would have to spend 5 minutes constantly getting insta kicked every 15 seconds, until the match started and a new lobby could generate... just to queue for 5 minutes and get kicked, spend 2-3 minutes clicking and getting insta kicked until that lobby filled.... just to queue for 5 mins and get kicked, then spend 2-3 mins getting insta kicked etc etc
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Re: An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby FMBot » Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:56 am

beep boop it makes it harder to play so its a hard no from me
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Re: An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby Voriki » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:19 am

Or you could blacklist players, and when you enter the lobby they reside in a message pops up(could also work for friends, as a happy message), giving you the choice to stay in the lobby, or exit out of free will.
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Re: An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby JacksonVirgo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:38 am

This would indeed be really nice to have, as long as it's implementation is well thought out.
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Re: An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby Voriki » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:14 am

azurillia wrote:
Voriki wrote:Or you could blacklist players, and when you enter the lobby they reside in a message pops up(could also work for friends, as a happy message), giving you the choice to stay in the lobby, or exit out of free will.


thats what i wrote

You just said avoid, other people said kick out of lobby, or not join a lobby at all. You never specified how to avoid :)
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Re: An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby popkart » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:53 am

In Ranked games people would prefer to wait or not play rather than to team up with gamethrowers. I guess it will be better to report and get them suspended than posing the punishment on good players. It's not fair that good players have to leave the lobby and wait just because of the existence of some certain people.

But adding a blacklist is a really good idea. Just make it so that we can blacklist players in game (without knowing their username?) instead of having to wait until the end.
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Re: An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby LevinSnakesRise » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:05 am

The only issue with blacklisting is similar to what kyusss brought up.

Don't know if anyone remembers or ever heard what happened with Overwatch and their blacklist feature, but here's an article, and the reason why Overwatch removed it for several years before adding back and limiting it to the next matchmaking instance only, which wouldn't be useful here;
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/0 ... is-player/

TL;DR - The best Widow Sniper in Overwatch was experiencing seriously long matchmaking times. When Blizzard looked into it, it was because hundreds of folks blocked them not because he was a bad player, but because he was good. By the time matchmaking put him in, he was queued with lower-ranked and ruining his gameplay.

So in short; Bad idea, and doubtful it'll happen. If everyone does their due-dilgenece, especially with ToS being Pay-to-Play now, and reports bad players who actually gamethrow (not your definition, the actual definition), eventually they'll be gone. :)
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Re: An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby MysticMismagius » Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:19 am

Naru2008 wrote:If everyone does their due-dilgenece, especially with ToS being Pay-to-Play now, and reports bad players who actually gamethrow (not your definition, the actual definition), eventually they'll be gone. :)
The problem with this part of the argument is that a lot of de facto throwing is not de jure throwing, especially since the Syanna rule isn’t around anymore. There are still some people you’d just have to put up with because they’re technically not breaking any rules, even if they ruin every game they touch.

I do get the rest of it, and I understand why this suggestion would do more harm than good, but I can also see the appeal.
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Re: An option to not play with a certain gamethrowers

Postby Transcender » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:01 am

MysticMismagius wrote:
Naru2008 wrote:If everyone does their due-dilgenece, especially with ToS being Pay-to-Play now, and reports bad players who actually gamethrow (not your definition, the actual definition), eventually they'll be gone. :)
The problem with this part of the argument is that a lot of de facto throwing is not de jure throwing, especially since the Syanna rule isn’t around anymore. There are still some people you’d just have to put up with because they’re technically not breaking any rules, even if they ruin every game they touch.

I do get the rest of it, and I understand why this suggestion would do more harm than good, but I can also see the appeal.

Also alt bullshit makes it invalid anyways
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