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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby Brilliand » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:19 pm

UzayAltay wrote:First , I am assuming The thing discussed here is "hardbussing " ( Because it make no sense or little sense at distancing , cross-bus or short-bus ) . If it include All busses , just no .


What are distancing, cross-bus and short-bus?
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:01 pm

Brilliand wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:First , I am assuming The thing discussed here is "hardbussing " ( Because it make no sense or little sense at distancing , cross-bus or short-bus ) . If it include All busses , just no .


What are distancing, cross-bus and short-bus?

Distancing is put A distance between your scum members at Day . This is very popular done and I Hadnt saw anyone Having problem with that . For example , voting your buddy when town want to put on trial . Or Asking role to your buddy .

Short-bus is supporting A town's evidence on one of your buddies with your fake evidence . Especially effective for pocketing that townie . If You feel they cant Save theirselves , it is A very effective weapon , Basicly becoming More trustworthy for free . I Also havent seen any Mafia being hisseden Because somebody short-bussed them .

Cross-bus is generally done at endgames , Basicly Mafias that are stayed in A PoE , or two different POE and need 1 or two mislynch can bus Each other ( with voting generally , saying sth Like " I think [other Mafia] is More likely to be Mafia here " etc .Aim is when either of Mafias is lynched , Showing remaining townies suspicious and Mafia most trustworthy . That should be pre-planned always due it's nature . an example :
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GF ( TK claim )
Framer (TP claim )
At here , Mafia need 1 mislynch to win . ( Think A scenario slots left are TK , TS and RT , and vig , GF claiming they shot Each other )
Now , If both Mafia's push Same targets , or think that Each other is town in PoE's , If Retri is an experienced Player Retri can catch them . Here is What it Does , instead of that , Mafia's pushing Each other . Let's assume they Did that , and GF is lynched . At here , Framer Will be More trustworthy Than Real Doctor , which can end with A misshot from vig , or A mislynch tomorrow , and win . It is The point , with cross-bus , regardless of which Mafia is lynched , other is townread Because they pushed Mafia , and town(s) in that PoE become suspicious ( flipped Mafia defended them , they voted for Same players etc ) .
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby Maximus20 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:13 pm

Flavorable wrote:If I'd get bussed every single game I was mafia, honestly, I'd personally start wondering why people keep bussing me and if maybe I'm doing something horribly wrong.


Lol, I thought you said that sometimes you are toxic, like the rush that gets to all of us, idk about you but I would be cursing, and "cross bussing" it just doesn't seem fair for someone to be hardbussed for no reason at all when they did nothing especially early like d2, kinda sucks.
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby MysticMismagius » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:15 pm

If it's the same person or group of people and they have a history of targeting you, then you can already report them for harassment.
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby PolyesterHomes » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:34 pm

How would you gain consent in the middle of the day without making it obvious that you're preforming a bus?
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby MysticMismagius » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:37 pm

The obvious solution would be to ask the night before, in Mafia chat. Impossible if you or the ally you plan to bus happened to be jailed, but generally an easy option.

Still, this doesn't account for quick decisions, or when the person you want to bus is AFK.
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby Maximus20 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:02 pm

MysticMismagius wrote:The obvious solution would be to ask the night before, in Mafia chat. Impossible if you or the ally you plan to bus happened to be jailed, but generally an easy option.

Still, this doesn't account for quick decisions, or when the person you want to bus is AFK.


Yes, but we are talking about if a mafia member is active, not suspicious and is actually playing good and you just out them for no reason whatsoever.
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby Brilliand » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:23 pm

Maximus20 wrote:
MysticMismagius wrote:The obvious solution would be to ask the night before, in Mafia chat. Impossible if you or the ally you plan to bus happened to be jailed, but generally an easy option.

Still, this doesn't account for quick decisions, or when the person you want to bus is AFK.


Yes, but we are talking about if a mafia member is active, not suspicious and is actually playing good and you just out them for no reason whatsoever.


Nothing is ever for no reason whatsoever.
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby Maximus20 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:24 pm

Brilliand wrote:Yes, but we are talking about if a mafia member is active, not suspicious and is actually playing good and you just out them for no reason whatsoever.


Nothing is ever for no reason whatsoever.[/quote]

That's your opinion, not a fact.
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby MysticMismagius » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:45 pm

Well in your scenario, either you're having the worst luck in the history of the world, (in which case turn the game off for the night 'cause you're just going to get tilted at this rate and then actually play bad) or you're being targeted by the busser (which is already reportable as harassment, as I've said earlier).
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby Maximus20 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:52 pm

MysticMismagius wrote:Well in your scenario, either you're having the worst luck in the history of the world, (in which case turn the game off for the night 'cause you're just going to get tilted at this rate and then actually play bad) or you're being targeted by the busser (which is already reportable as harassment, as I've said earlier).


Then the discussion is over, it can be reported as harassment, end of story.
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Re: Make bussing without consent considered gamethrowing.

Postby PterryDactyl » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:09 pm

I personally like to fake-buss/gamethrow (reveal in will a fake 'shitty godfather'). Sometimes it works. If someone is clearly evil I probably include them as a buss to get someone hung. I make sure the person knows they are a day away from dying anyways if I do this.

But yeah this sounds like every TOS mafia ever is against you.
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