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Change punishment for inappropriate ign

Postby SwampRabbit » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:17 pm

So many misogynistic, pornographic, pedophilic, sexist, racist, xenophobic and bigoted names are being allowed by the trial judges as acceptable> Undoubtedly, these ign are being used for the most part by juveniles who want to see how much they can get away with. The answer to that, as we all know, is they can get away with pretty much anything.

So rather than do nothing, as is currently being done, why not change the punishment so that they are suspended from being able to create a personal ign and can play only with default names?

That would alleviate pressure on the judges who do not want to ban people for even the most heinous offensive names, and it would protect the vast majority of players from repulsive terms that are offensive to everyone but the trial judges.
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Re: Change punishment for inappropriate ign

Postby Brilliand » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:41 am

SwampRabbit wrote:Undoubtedly, these ign are being used for the most part by juveniles who want to see how much they can get away with.


People who want to sound scary and think "Hitler" is the scariest person there is

People who want to mock something controversial and think mentioning it is enough to mock it

People who want to push other players' emotional hotbuttons and watch them freak out

No one does it "to see how much they can get away with". They want to do it first, then they think about whether they can get away with it. (Hopefully. Sometimes they don't even do that.)

SwampRabbit wrote:So rather than do nothing, as is currently being done, why not change the punishment so that they are suspended from being able to create a personal ign and can play only with default names?


This is a good idea, but it takes dev time to implement. Possibly not worth it.
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Re: Change punishment for inappropriate ign

Postby SwampRabbit » Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:25 am

Regardless of what their motives are, the current system does nothing to stop them because trial judges deem almost everything innocent. And, if the only thing they are doing wrong is making offensive names, restricting them to default names would solve that problem.

tbh, I am not so much concerned by people who copy real life people's names, like Hitler, Stalin, etc. unless they are coupling it with chat about the heinous acts committed by those people.

I am more referencing people who use names like Cocksucker, BigCunt, niger,gay muslim, etc. (all ign deemed innocent by trial judges within the past month)

I am not a programmer so I don't know how much work it would take, and tbh, I don't care how much work it is. Something needs to change to stop the sexual, racial and bigoted names from being used, or BMG should stop marketing this game to all ages and restrict it to adults only because of the sexual and racist nature that is being allowed.
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Re: Change punishment for inappropriate ign

Postby Brilliand » Thu Aug 01, 2019 12:35 pm

SwampRabbit wrote:Regardless of what their motives are, the current system does nothing to stop them because trial judges deem almost everything innocent.


Trial judges or jurors?

I could see a group of jurors deciding that those names are harmless, but I have a hard time seeing a trial judge declaring such names innocent if the jurors guiltied them. Naturally, juror behavior is a bit chaotic (based on which jurors are active at the time), so controversial things may pass one day and get punished another.

If you show a few examples, it's likely that a trial judge will stop by to tell us whether those were judge decisions or jury decisions.

SwampRabbit wrote:Something needs to change to stop the sexual, racial and bigoted names from being used, or BMG should stop marketing this game to all ages and restrict it to adults only because of the sexual and racist nature that is being allowed.


If it's children saying these things, though... saying that only adults should hear these things that are actually being said by children is kind of insane. I'd think that children should get a free pass on being able to talk to children.
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Re: Change punishment for inappropriate ign

Postby StlnSP » Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:18 pm

it's called being banned and have to spent another 5 dollars to buy the game again.
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Re: Change punishment for inappropriate ign

Postby SwampRabbit » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:33 pm

Brilliand, the names I am talking about were all guiltied by jurors and overruled to innocent by judges. The trial system is completely broken in regards to usernames. There is an entire thread about it on trial system feedback where judges vigorously defend their discretion to overrule community guilty votes on these names. Apparently the standard for what is offensive is now based on what people in the sex industry would find offensive and not on what the community finds offensive.

And StInSp, if people were being banned as the rules say they will be, there would be no need for this. And if you had actually read this thread rather than post a random comment to see yourself talk, then you would have known that the players are not being punished at all by the trial system.
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Re: Change punishment for inappropriate ign

Postby Brilliand » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:21 pm

SwampRabbit wrote:Brilliand, the names I am talking about were all guiltied by jurors and overruled to innocent by judges. The trial system is completely broken in regards to usernames. There is an entire thread about it on trial system feedback where judges vigorously defend their discretion to overrule community guilty votes on these names. Apparently the standard for what is offensive is now based on what people in the sex industry would find offensive and not on what the community finds offensive.


Okay. Color me surprised, but... I'm not actually interested in objecting to the judges doing that. I could totally see myself among the jurors voting innocent on those names.

"what the community finds offensive" isn't actually one thing. There isn't actually all that much agreement within the community here as to what is and isn't offensive. Therefore, I consider "the trial system is completely broken in regards to usernames" to be quite an exaggeration.
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Re: Change punishment for inappropriate ign

Postby ColbyBryant » Mon Aug 05, 2019 4:21 pm

It would not take tons of time to do name bans, assuming their infrastructure isn't a complete mess (which it most definitely is), maybe a day of work.
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