Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

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Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby EgyptFalcon » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:51 am

The whole idea around being blackmailed is that you are unable to communicate with town. However, being able to vote (non-anonymously) ruins this. You can communicate that you are blackmailed by spamming the vote button, and if you are a known TI town can ask you yes or no questions that you can answer by voting on certain people.

Removing the target's ability to vote would be too overpowered, so the solution is to make either everyone's votes anonymous or just make the blackmailed person's vote invisible. Making all votes anonymous kind of ruins scum-reading, so the second option is preferable. However, if you were *very* careful at counting votes, you could tell that someone that voted was blackmailed, and this would be unreplicatable by mafia. Realistically though, this is minor compared to the current flaws of blackmailing.
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby Mikemk » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:53 pm

Or make it so blackmailed people can only vote someone who's already been voted, and can't unvote.
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby Abelisk » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:40 am

Mikemk wrote:Or make it so blackmailed people can only vote someone who's already been voted, and can't unvote.


"Quiet person votes confirmed Townie such as jailor or mayor, okay this guy is blackmailed"
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby Flavorable » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:00 am

Spy would undo this too, since spy can see visits and still deduce who is blackmailed.

Not to mention, if they suspect someone is blackmailed, they can still say "Vote me if you're blackmailed".
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby Mikemk » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:40 am

Abelisk wrote:
Mikemk wrote:Or make it so blackmailed people can only vote someone who's already been voted, and can't unvote.


"Quiet person votes confirmed Townie such as jailor or mayor, okay this guy is blackmailed"

Only if someone else votes the mayor first.
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby Flavorable » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:26 pm

Mikemk wrote:
Abelisk wrote:
Mikemk wrote:Or make it so blackmailed people can only vote someone who's already been voted, and can't unvote.


"Quiet person votes confirmed Townie such as jailor or mayor, okay this guy is blackmailed"

Only if someone else votes the mayor first.


Yes, and then the BMed person dies, his will says BMed, guy who votes Mayor/Jailor gets insta-killed for pretending to be BMed.
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby StrahmDude » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:55 pm

This would ruin faking being blackmailed.
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby Brilliand » Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:32 am

StrahmDude wrote:This would ruin faking being blackmailed.


But right now being blackmailed is so fun that smart blackmailers know not to do it.
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby Milkshake95 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:25 am

I support this. Metacommunicating should get rid of in any way.
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby Flavorable » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:10 am

Milkshake95 wrote:I support this. Metacommunicating should get rid of in any way.


It's not really meta-communicating if abilities within a game are used.
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby EgyptFalcon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:54 am

StrahmDude wrote:This would ruin faking being blackmailed.


This only works when there's no spy and you can still say "I am blackmailed." on the stand.
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby StrahmDude » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:43 pm

EgyptFalcon wrote:
StrahmDude wrote:This would ruin faking being blackmailed.


This only works when there's no spy and you can still say "I am blackmailed." on the stand.

True. And as was said, faking blackmailed never really works anyway.
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Re: Make Blackmailed Players' Votes Invisible

Postby Yemac » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:29 am

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