VH kill Notification

[wakingfire]

Add a message that says you staked a vampire when you visit a vampire at night as VH instead of no message that way, allowing yourself to figure out if there's more than 1 VH or not in games like All Any or custom games.l

[Flavorable]

Support!

[wakingfire]

Really?

[Flavorable]

Absolutely.

Not just to check for multiple VHs, but also to see if you staked someone but they got healed, etc.

In my opinion, it's ridiculous that this is not a thing yet.

[wakingfire]

I know, it's like, Did I kill them? Where they healed or are they not a vampire. It's a thing that's bugged me.

[DragonClaw66]

I'd honestly be fine with this as long as the Vampire and Vampire Hunter are both changed in other ways so that the Vampire Hunter isn't so oppressive to the Vampire while being completely useless in other scenarios.

[RedHeadStepChild]

Yes! I very much support this idea. This would also help in dealing with people sharing role information out of game. I had a game earlier where 2 siblings, being vamp and doc, and the vamp knew they were doc since day 1, i was the LO and got witched into someone who was a vamp who was visited by the VH and the Doc.

Its so furiating when a doc knowingly heals a vamp or other evil role knowing they're evil. Id consider that throwing.

[wakingfire]

Yeah, that way you can make sure they're hanged that day or exed by the jailor. And report any doctors for purposely healing them.

[PleaseReadSiege]

I'm confused. I thought VH already had a kill message. I've seen "you staked a vampire!" come up before...

[DragonClaw66]

I'm confused. I thought VH already had a kill message. I've seen "you staked a vampire!" come up before...

I believe you receive a message if a Vampire visits you, but not the other way around.

[noveiia]

It’s so weird to me every other killing/protective role gets a notification except VH. This should definitely be a thing!

[PleaseReadSiege]

It’s so weird to me every other killing/protective role gets a notification except VH. This should definitely be a thing!

That's not exactly true though. Vig, maf/GF, SK, PM...maybe others I'm missing do NOT, which may have influenced the decision to not include it from the beginning. That being said, this one does seem appropriate to add since you do get the message when visited by a vamp.

One thing to consider though: Should the VH get the message if they stake a vampire, but the vampire is healed by doc, protected by GA, etc?

[AlternativeAccount]

I support this! Not sure why it isn't already a thing...

[noveiia]

Those roles do get a message though.
Mafioso you get a message saying the Godfather has ordered you to kill his target (in GF game) for example.
And those ones are different as they know someone will likely die (unless Arso, SK, Jugg, Pestilence, etc.), but as a VH you have no idea if your target is going to die.

[SpiritWolfLord]

Not to go against the grain, but I personally think it's better the way it is. VH becomes vig when all vamps are killed, and docs healing the vampire get a notification that their target was healed. All any is a special case, so I'll refer to Dracula's Palace. Vamps attack every night until they have less than 4, then they bite and have to wait 2 nights. If the vampires hit or get hit by the vh, they get staked. This is kind of like a more powerful vig/vet combined, which is balanced by the fact that the vampires can gain more vampires. If the town communicates like they should, then the vampires lose fairly easily. If doc messes up and heals a vampire that was staked, it's their job to inform the vh. If town isn't communicating, it's their own fault.

[MysticMismagius]

If town isn't communicating, it's their own fault.

But it's not the Vampire Hunter's fault, which is the point of contention here. Since VH doesn't always attack when he visits, knowing whether or not he attacked someone that he visited is important information, and something he should logically know without having to ask someone.