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Correcting gender?

Postby inabamitsu » Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:19 pm

Probably a less controversial topic than the vampire post, but, is it possible to have the gender of certain things like (The jester will get his revenge from the grave) to match the avatar you're using. For example, if you're using the Consig skin, and get jest, it should read "The Jester will get her revenge".

Probably a low priority thing, but it'd probably make some people feel better.
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby WildCard65 » Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:44 pm

I think it might be better to change it to gender neutral pronouns, like their.
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby inabamitsu » Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:58 pm

That might be the best choice.
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby kyuss420 » Sun May 07, 2023 4:06 am

or just leave it as is, cos it really isnt hurting anybody, and anyone who is offended by something as miniscule as this, really needs professional therapy cos they have much deeper problems going on than that
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby WaveAqualei » Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:26 pm

kyuss420 wrote:or just leave it as is, cos it really isnt hurting anybody, and anyone who is offended by something as miniscule as this, really needs professional therapy cos they have much deeper problems going on than that

I mean, it's a QOL change, so it's not gonna be hurting anyone if it happens anyway.
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby kyuss420 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:11 am

Its really not hurting anyone as it is :roll:
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby benaffleck12 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:10 pm

Some players may feel that the gender mismatch in certain parts of the game's text can be frustrating or exclusionary. It's important for games to strive for inclusivity and representation, and making small changes like matching the gender of certain text to a player's avatar can go a long way in making players feel seen and valued.
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby Poryg » Mon Dec 04, 2023 5:03 am

And some players may also feel that fixing this will be an act of transphobia. Who wants to get offended, will inevitably get offended.
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby WaveAqualei » Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:55 pm

kyuss420 wrote:Its really not hurting anyone as it is :roll:

It's definitely hurting you if it gets changed so...
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby kyuss420 » Sun Jan 21, 2024 4:58 am

WaveAqualei wrote:
kyuss420 wrote:Its really not hurting anyone as it is :roll:

It's definitely hurting you if it gets changed so...


I dont care about what gender my avatar is in a simulation. The game isnt referring to me personally, at any time. Maybe they should change alignments too, so people wont be offended by their avatars being called 'evil'.

Point being, if you think the game is referring to you personally, at any time during gameplay, you really need a reality check.

I lie and manipulate in game, doesnt mean I am going to lie to and manipulate everyone I meet irl or anyone i chat to on the internet.... its a game... what happens in game isnt reality
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby Golfy » Fri Jan 26, 2024 8:18 am

kyuss420 wrote:
WaveAqualei wrote:
kyuss420 wrote:Its really not hurting anyone as it is :roll:

It's definitely hurting you if it gets changed so...


I dont care about what gender my avatar is in a simulation. The game isnt referring to me personally, at any time. Maybe they should change alignments too, so people wont be offended by their avatars being called 'evil'.

Point being, if you think the game is referring to you personally, at any time during gameplay, you really need a reality check.

I lie and manipulate in game, doesnt mean I am going to lie to and manipulate everyone I meet irl or anyone i chat to on the internet.... its a game... what happens in game isnt reality


my guy. you seem to be really offended about the very idea of a game changing a couple words. I dont think you get to call anyone else a snowflake
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby kyuss420 » Sat Jan 27, 2024 7:04 am

Golfy wrote:
my guy. you seem to be really offended about the very idea of a game changing a couple words. I dont think you get to call anyone else a snowflake


who used the word snowflake? Or called anybody anything for that matter?

You seem to be creating a false narrative to suit your personal narrative to create conflict where there wasnt any to start with.

Let me simplify it for you.
Town of salem = fantasy land.
If you want to advocate for trans rights (or whatever you want to advocate, for that matter) do it in the real world, not in fantasy land.
making changes in fantasy land, does absolutely nothing for whatever agenda you want to push, in the real world. Pushing your agenda in fantasy land, doesnt create change in the real world.

If you want to do something for trans rights, There are much better platforms to do it in, than an indie game with >2000 players. Even if the devs did change some pronouns, it doesnt really achieve anything for the cause..... the real world is still out there, and Town of salem is still just fantasy land.
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby Golfy » Mon Jan 29, 2024 2:20 am

kyuss. pal. you were calling people overly sensitive (don't deny this, but you will anyway) and YOU are the one who barged into this discussion to create conflict where none previously existed. Changing a couple words in the game, even if it doesn't achieve much, also wouldn't do anything negative beyond pissing off a couple idiots like you (don't deny this either, there's no other reason for you to be here)

also:
using the term "pushing an agenda" = opinion immediately disregarded
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby kyuss420 » Wed Jan 31, 2024 4:49 am

Golfy wrote:kyuss. pal. you were calling people overly sensitive (don't deny this, but you will anyway) and YOU are the one who barged into this discussion to create conflict where none previously existed. Changing a couple words in the game, even if it doesn't achieve much, also wouldn't do anything negative beyond pissing off a couple idiots like you (don't deny this either, there's no other reason for you to be here)

also:
using the term "pushing an agenda" = opinion immediately disregarded


I didnt call anybody anything. I just pointed out the stupidity of an 'ideology' for lack of a better word. If you think otherwise, you should really take a break from the social media arguements for a while, pal, cos fantasy is really crashing down on your reality. Im not the Trump lovin troll you were arguing with on Facebook last week, and the change wouldnt piss me off, as I said, this game is fantasy and I dont give a sh@t what gender some fantasy character's avatar, that Im controlling is deemed to be.

Why? Because the game isnt reality :roll: And if your reality is getting annoyed with things that happen in fantasy, then logic would dictate that you have much bigger problems that you should seek help for, instead of using your time playing internet games. :roll: Its nothing to do with sensitivity....It about acknowleding the difference between fantasy and reality.

I just stated my opinion, which I based on common sense, and end up with you calling me an idiot, putting words (and insults) in my mouth and having an arguement I was never having, because you took something out of context. And I hardly 'barged' in....idk what youre thinkin there dude...

As for a reason to be here... idk maybe a logical discussion about the topic of the post?... weighing up both sides of a viewpoint?... learning someone elses perspective? Normal rational people can usually do that, without attacking the other viewpoint, calling names, putting their own paranoid spin on the other persons words,etc.

So if theres no reason for me to be here then the whole post becomes immediately disregarded cos it was likely only put here to troll the opposing viewpoint anyway.....
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby Golfy » Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:53 am

L + ratio + dont care + im not reading allat + get a life + u got better things to do then get angry about trans people on town of salem forums + u denied it anyway + L again + used the word "ideology" = opinion disregarded (already disregarded it so double-disregarded) + you started the argument + shut the fuck up + im trolling ur opinion cause its dogshit + google en passant + grow up loser
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby kyuss420 » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:06 pm

Golfy wrote:L + ratio + dont care + im not reading allat + get a life + u got better things to do then get angry about trans people on town of salem forums + u denied it anyway + L again + used the word "ideology" = opinion disregarded (already disregarded it so double-disregarded) + you started the argument + shut the fuck up + im trolling ur opinion cause its dogshit + google en passant + grow up loser


You're the one pushing a far left ideology, that gender of fictional characters cause harm to people in the real world. The devs dont want a far left ideological game, they want a game where all people can play, without pushing any kind of political agenda.

It has nothing to do with trans people. Even trans people dont care about the gender of fictional characters, except the the fact theyre told to, by a very small minority of the population who has found a megaphone, within the social media platforms.

When you are sitting on the far left spectrum, literally everything else is to the right, at some degree. Same on the far right spectrum, everything else is to the left at some degree. So fictional character gender isnt an act by a right wing extremist, it isnt anti-trans, it isnt even anti-left, its just not far left....

The Germans even have a word for it... Weltschmerz - the depression caused by the real world not living up to the expectations of the ideal world in our mind. Its hardly the job of the ToS devs to address that :roll:

But I can see you are incapable of having any kind of discussion, and just came here to have a self affirmative circle jerk on the topic...
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby Golfy » Sun Feb 04, 2024 2:22 am

socialism is when the game has gender neutral pronouns. the more gender neutral pronouns there are, the more socialister it becomes. and if the game has a real lot of gender-neutral pronouns, that's communism.
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Re: Correcting gender?

Postby Ezradekezra » Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:26 am

bestie you do realize that the argument that "it's fiction so why does it matter" applies just as much to your own position as it does to anyone else's right

also idrg how making a small qol change would prevent more meaningful progress from being made. im pretty sure that both things can exist at the same time
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