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Pronoun "Selection"

Postby CookieMan56 » Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:04 pm

Maybe you could add another selection screen to profile , and be able to pick pronouns to appear next to your name in game. Some examples would be (he/him), (she/her), (they/them), and (xe/xem). You wouldn't have to select, and I believe most people would be nice about it. Some people who play the game are probably nonbinary/trans(including me), and it sometimes gets disappointing when people call me a he , so I feel it would be a benefit to those people.
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby Kirize12 » Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:11 pm

Not a bad idea, although people can infer your pronouns from your gender field (He/Him for Male, She/Her for Female, They/Them for blank, and anything else in the signature). There’s no reason not to support this, it seems easy enough.

Do you go by they/them?
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby Flavorable » Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:56 am

In the game, you pick a character and roleplay as that character and thus get the gender pronoun assigned for that character.

While I understand that pronouns are very important for some people, I also feel people should keep in mind that the game is not a real life experience, and the pronouns are generally just based on either the character, or sometimes people fall back on what their personal taught "default" is.

The main issues I see with this is, first off, there's too many pronouns that people want, you named a couple, but there are sooo many more that people use, where do we stop?
Second issue I also see, is that it will insanely clutter the screen. (#. Playername (pronouns)). That's half a sentence gone.
Third issue I see: Even moreso than already (and this is moreso of a personal note), this would cause even more non-game related discussions ingame. Which might open a can of worms to a plethora of even more harassment, e.t.c.
Not to mention, and I hate saying this: People are gonna ignore it anyway. Maybe not everyone, but some people will. They'll either don't care about your personal preference (which, as stupid as it may seem, is allowed, especially on the internet, not everyone cares), or they'll be so into the game they will resort to default.

So while I do get the cause, I don't think it's something that needs to be implemented, especially not in the suggested manner.

I could see a suggestion about a gender neutral character/skin to pick ingame, possibly working in the future though.
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby Descender » Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:11 am

one of the reasons i dont play tos as much anymore is that some characters which probably don't need to be gendered are gendered and that random skins cant disclude single skins

just make they/them the norm
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby Stiersquid » Tue Oct 05, 2021 4:44 am

Seems pointless everyone will call everyone a he anyway.
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby kyuss420 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:56 pm

does gender even exist on the internet?
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby Stiersquid » Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:36 am

kyuss420 wrote:does gender even exist on the internet?
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby Soulshade55r » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:13 am

Descender wrote:one of the reasons i dont play tos as much anymore is that some characters which probably don't need to be gendered are gendered and that random skins cant disclude single skins

just make they/them the norm


Dunno why it needs to even mention gender personally.
Couldn't be that hard to just slightly edit some words to make everything gender neutral.
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby EqsyLootz » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:51 pm

kyuss420 wrote:does gender even exist on the internet?


Nope.
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby SatouKai » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:26 pm

I somewhat agree. Pronouns during matches appear to be based on the avatar one uses during a match. However, some people might want to use the Potion Master avatar and feel uncomfortable being referred to with she/her pronouns. It would be ideal to not refer to gender in-game, though, because some people would want to remain fully anonymous and the pronouns one uses may be utilized for metagaming and/or trolling purposes.
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:21 am

SatouKai wrote:I somewhat agree. Pronouns during matches appear to be based on the avatar one uses during a match. However, some people might want to use the Potion Master avatar and feel uncomfortable being referred to with she/her pronouns. It would be ideal to not refer to gender in-game, though, because some people would want to remain fully anonymous and the pronouns one uses may be utilized for metagaming and/or trolling purposes.


Its kind of a roleplaying thing

If you play an rpg and your character is a woman, you will be called a she


Anyway just saying "they" should be enough to avoid people from complaining
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby SatouKai » Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:47 pm

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
SatouKai wrote:I somewhat agree. Pronouns during matches appear to be based on the avatar one uses during a match. However, some people might want to use the Potion Master avatar and feel uncomfortable being referred to with she/her pronouns. It would be ideal to not refer to gender in-game, though, because some people would want to remain fully anonymous and the pronouns one uses may be utilized for metagaming and/or trolling purposes.


Its kind of a roleplaying thing

If you play an rpg and your character is a woman, you will be called a she


Anyway just saying "they" should be enough to avoid people from complaining


That's fair, but for most people ToS is less so character roleplay and more so, well, role roleplay. Like, your skin being the Mafioso or Potion Master doesn't affect your strategies/claims/etc. But back on topic, I agree with having the neutral singular "they" set for game messages.
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby Descender » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:08 am

EqsyLootz wrote:
kyuss420 wrote:does gender even exist on the internet?


Nope.

what

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
SatouKai wrote:I somewhat agree. Pronouns during matches appear to be based on the avatar one uses during a match. However, some people might want to use the Potion Master avatar and feel uncomfortable being referred to with she/her pronouns. It would be ideal to not refer to gender in-game, though, because some people would want to remain fully anonymous and the pronouns one uses may be utilized for metagaming and/or trolling purposes.


Its kind of a roleplaying thing

If you play an rpg and your character is a woman, you will be called a she


Anyway just saying "they" should be enough to avoid people from complaining

what
nearly everyone calls everyone he in tos
up until i switched to using random (which is annoying because they still haven't allowed players to random between set skins) i used girl skin
and a girls name
it did not stop anyone from calling me he which is an issue ive only had here
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:07 pm

Descender wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:
kyuss420 wrote:does gender even exist on the internet?


Nope.

what

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
SatouKai wrote:I somewhat agree. Pronouns during matches appear to be based on the avatar one uses during a match. However, some people might want to use the Potion Master avatar and feel uncomfortable being referred to with she/her pronouns. It would be ideal to not refer to gender in-game, though, because some people would want to remain fully anonymous and the pronouns one uses may be utilized for metagaming and/or trolling purposes.


Its kind of a roleplaying thing

If you play an rpg and your character is a woman, you will be called a she


Anyway just saying "they" should be enough to avoid people from complaining

what
nearly everyone calls everyone he in tos
up until i switched to using random (which is annoying because they still haven't allowed players to random between set skins) i used girl skin
and a girls name
it did not stop anyone from calling me he which is an issue ive only had here


I dont know what games you play, in almost every online game 90% of people will call others "he"
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby Descender » Sat Oct 23, 2021 5:32 am

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
Descender wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:
kyuss420 wrote:does gender even exist on the internet?


Nope.

what

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
SatouKai wrote:I somewhat agree. Pronouns during matches appear to be based on the avatar one uses during a match. However, some people might want to use the Potion Master avatar and feel uncomfortable being referred to with she/her pronouns. It would be ideal to not refer to gender in-game, though, because some people would want to remain fully anonymous and the pronouns one uses may be utilized for metagaming and/or trolling purposes.


Its kind of a roleplaying thing

If you play an rpg and your character is a woman, you will be called a she


Anyway just saying "they" should be enough to avoid people from complaining

what
nearly everyone calls everyone he in tos
up until i switched to using random (which is annoying because they still haven't allowed players to random between set skins) i used girl skin
and a girls name
it did not stop anyone from calling me he which is an issue ive only had here


I dont know what games you play, in almost every online game 90% of people will call others "he"

i used to play anarchy minecraft and ive been asked my pronouns or just been refered to as they SO much more
fucking anarchy minecraft
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Re: Pronoun "Selection"

Postby SatouKai » Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:26 pm

Descender wrote:
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
Descender wrote:
EqsyLootz wrote:
kyuss420 wrote:does gender even exist on the internet?


Nope.

what

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
SatouKai wrote:I somewhat agree. Pronouns during matches appear to be based on the avatar one uses during a match. However, some people might want to use the Potion Master avatar and feel uncomfortable being referred to with she/her pronouns. It would be ideal to not refer to gender in-game, though, because some people would want to remain fully anonymous and the pronouns one uses may be utilized for metagaming and/or trolling purposes.


Its kind of a roleplaying thing

If you play an rpg and your character is a woman, you will be called a she


Anyway just saying "they" should be enough to avoid people from complaining

what
nearly everyone calls everyone he in tos
up until i switched to using random (which is annoying because they still haven't allowed players to random between set skins) i used girl skin
and a girls name
it did not stop anyone from calling me he which is an issue ive only had here


I dont know what games you play, in almost every online game 90% of people will call others "he"

i used to play anarchy minecraft and ive been asked my pronouns or just been refered to as they SO much more
fucking anarchy minecraft

well that IS anarchy minecraft, lol. in my experience, in most online games (tos ESPECIALLY included) people often default to using he/him for other players.
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