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Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd/etc

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:21 am

If you are jailed and get rbed, you get a notification

Someone tried to roleblock/transport/attack/blackmail you but you were in jail last night.

Imo that shouldnt be a thing, it is a small but unecesary extra power to jailor and helps confirming transporters, vigis and escorts even more (because hypno doesnt gives this notification if their target is jailed), it is already like that with control, so why not with all the other notifications?
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Re: Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd

Postby Ezradekezra » Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:24 am

Why not just buff Hypno to make its notifications change if the target is jailed instead?
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Re: Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:23 pm

Ezradekezra wrote:Why not just buff Hypno to make its notifications change if the target is jailed instead?


Because its not only for hypno, many times someone gets semi confirmed becaus they get bmed or attacked in jail, they could be lying but eventually it affects

Vigis get confirmed without needing to kill and dont waste a bullet, which imo is lame
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Re: Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd

Postby OreCreeper » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:39 pm

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Why not just buff Hypno to make its notifications change if the target is jailed instead?


Because its not only for hypno, many times someone gets semi confirmed becaus they get bmed or attacked in jail, they could be lying but eventually it affects

Vigis get confirmed without needing to kill and dont waste a bullet, which imo is lame

Well you have to think that if the person wasn't in jail, they'd still be semi-confirmed or 100% confirmed (in the case of being attacked, as they would die and their role would be revealed). The reason why jailed notifications exist is because if a player wasn't in jail, they would still receive those notifications.

I agree with the hypno buff, I would add that if hypno does it to someone who is immune, they should see the immune message instead of the normal one.
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Re: Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd

Postby kyuss420 » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:36 am

Hypno needs a way bigger buff than that tbh. I suggested they rework it last year, but they decided to add it to classic instead XD
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Re: Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:43 am

OreCreeper wrote:
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Why not just buff Hypno to make its notifications change if the target is jailed instead?


Because its not only for hypno, many times someone gets semi confirmed becaus they get bmed or attacked in jail, they could be lying but eventually it affects

Vigis get confirmed without needing to kill and dont waste a bullet, which imo is lame

Well you have to think that if the person wasn't in jail, they'd still be semi-confirmed or 100% confirmed (in the case of being attacked, as they would die and their role would be revealed). The reason why jailed notifications exist is because if a player wasn't in jail, they would still receive those notifications.

I agree with the hypno buff, I would add that if hypno does it to someone who is immune, they should see the immune message instead of the normal one.


No because that would encourage more hypnos to fake claim escort which is a terrible and really flawled fake claim
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Re: Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd

Postby OreCreeper » Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:10 am

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
OreCreeper wrote:
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Why not just buff Hypno to make its notifications change if the target is jailed instead?


Because its not only for hypno, many times someone gets semi confirmed becaus they get bmed or attacked in jail, they could be lying but eventually it affects

Vigis get confirmed without needing to kill and dont waste a bullet, which imo is lame

Well you have to think that if the person wasn't in jail, they'd still be semi-confirmed or 100% confirmed (in the case of being attacked, as they would die and their role would be revealed). The reason why jailed notifications exist is because if a player wasn't in jail, they would still receive those notifications.

I agree with the hypno buff, I would add that if hypno does it to someone who is immune, they should see the immune message instead of the normal one.


No because that would encourage more hypnos to fake claim escort which is a terrible and really flawled fake claim

It wouldn't because the main reason why smart hypnos don't claim escort isn't because of that, but because if you RB someone who gets feedback, they would still get feedback. All this does is allow hypno to use their fake messages more effectively and to fake transporter if they hit jailed.
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Re: Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd

Postby Yemac » Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:30 am

+1. Good suggestion
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Re: Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd

Postby syjfwbaobfwl » Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:48 am

OreCreeper wrote:
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
OreCreeper wrote:
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Why not just buff Hypno to make its notifications change if the target is jailed instead?


Because its not only for hypno, many times someone gets semi confirmed becaus they get bmed or attacked in jail, they could be lying but eventually it affects

Vigis get confirmed without needing to kill and dont waste a bullet, which imo is lame

Well you have to think that if the person wasn't in jail, they'd still be semi-confirmed or 100% confirmed (in the case of being attacked, as they would die and their role would be revealed). The reason why jailed notifications exist is because if a player wasn't in jail, they would still receive those notifications.

I agree with the hypno buff, I would add that if hypno does it to someone who is immune, they should see the immune message instead of the normal one.


No because that would encourage more hypnos to fake claim escort which is a terrible and really flawled fake claim

It wouldn't because the main reason why smart hypnos don't claim escort isn't because of that, but because if you RB someone who gets feedback, they would still get feedback. All this does is allow hypno to use their fake messages more effectively and to fake transporter if they hit jailed.


You contradic yourself in this because you say that PM shouldnt get notification if they target is attacked because that would encourage to claim doc
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Re: Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd

Postby OreCreeper » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:08 pm

syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
OreCreeper wrote:
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
OreCreeper wrote:
syjfwbaobfwl wrote:
Ezradekezra wrote:Why not just buff Hypno to make its notifications change if the target is jailed instead?


Because its not only for hypno, many times someone gets semi confirmed becaus they get bmed or attacked in jail, they could be lying but eventually it affects

Vigis get confirmed without needing to kill and dont waste a bullet, which imo is lame

Well you have to think that if the person wasn't in jail, they'd still be semi-confirmed or 100% confirmed (in the case of being attacked, as they would die and their role would be revealed). The reason why jailed notifications exist is because if a player wasn't in jail, they would still receive those notifications.

I agree with the hypno buff, I would add that if hypno does it to someone who is immune, they should see the immune message instead of the normal one.


No because that would encourage more hypnos to fake claim escort which is a terrible and really flawled fake claim

It wouldn't because the main reason why smart hypnos don't claim escort isn't because of that, but because if you RB someone who gets feedback, they would still get feedback. All this does is allow hypno to use their fake messages more effectively and to fake transporter if they hit jailed.


You contradic yourself in this because you say that PM shouldnt get notification if they target is attacked because that would encourage to claim doc

How did I contradict myself? There are two completely separate scenarios here. The hypno suggestion makes hypno's messages more believable, which is necessary because hypno is too weak and it is too easy to bust the messages as fake, not to mention that hypno only has 2/3 useful messages, the rest are garbage. PM on the other hand, doesn't operate on deception, so there is no need for PM to know if their target was attacked.
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Re: Make jailed people unable to know if they get rbed/atckd

Postby Yemac » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:05 am

Also this would be better when there is a Spy. If Spy sees 3 visits and one of them was jailed, you don't immediately know if jailed one was attacked, or if one of the others is immune.

Also mafia can fake-claim Escort for example and say they roleblocked the jailed person. Same for transporter
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