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Re: Possible data breach

Postby orangeandblack5 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:06 am

Now would be a great time to switch to https for the forums too, no? Unless I'm seeing things my browser keeps flashing "WEBSITE NOT SECURE" at me in bright red every time I try to log in lol
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Achilles » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:07 am

orangeandblack5 wrote:Now would be a great time to switch to https for the forums too, no? Unless I'm seeing things my browser keeps flashing "WEBSITE NOT SECURE" at me in bright red every time I try to log in lol


I'm on https right now
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Technetium » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:09 am

I'm on https and it says something about "website not fully secure, attackers can see and modify images" in a notice in the taskbar (Chrome browser)
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Nopingout » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:09 am

Achilles wrote:
orangeandblack5 wrote:Now would be a great time to switch to https for the forums too, no? Unless I'm seeing things my browser keeps flashing "WEBSITE NOT SECURE" at me in bright red every time I try to log in lol


I'm on https right now

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Re: Possible data breach

Postby kristian818 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:12 am

orangeandblack5 wrote:Now would be a great time to switch to https for the forums too, no? Unless I'm seeing things my browser keeps flashing "WEBSITE NOT SECURE" at me in bright red every time I try to log in lol


The forums currently allows both http and https connections. I don't know why they not just redirect http to https.
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby williewest » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:15 am

orangeandblack5 wrote:Now would be a great time to switch to https for the forums too, no? Unless I'm seeing things my browser keeps flashing "WEBSITE NOT SECURE" at me in bright red every time I try to log in lol

I can help with this. From what I've just tested, going into your bookmarks and editing the BMG ones to contain https:// at the beginning, and also adding it to the url of the page you're currently on in the url bar does seem to make it default to https instead of http.
Alternatively, if your browser does not do this as a function or it reverts back to http, there's a handy extension for Chrome, Firefox and Opera called Redirector by Einar Egilsson that can be used to make sure it redirects to https every time a BMG site is entered.

Edit: Better alternative- "HTTPS everywhere" (Thank kristian818 a couple posts down)
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Nopingout » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:16 am

williewest wrote:
orangeandblack5 wrote:Now would be a great time to switch to https for the forums too, no? Unless I'm seeing things my browser keeps flashing "WEBSITE NOT SECURE" at me in bright red every time I try to log in lol

I can help with this. From what I've just tested, going into your bookmarks and editing the BMG ones to contain https:// at the beginning, and also adding it to the url of the page you're currently on in the url bar does seem to make it default to https instead of http.
Alternatively, if your browser does not do this as a function or it reverts back to http, there's a handy extension for Chrome, Firefox and Opera called Redirector by Einar Egilsson that can be used to make sure it redirects to https every time a BMG site is entered.

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Re: Possible data breach

Postby kristian818 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:19 am

williewest wrote:There's a handy extension for Chrome, Firefox and Opera called Redirector by Einar Egilsson that can be used to make sure it redirects to https every time a BMG site is entered.


Personally I would recommend HTTPS everywhere as an extension instead. It is open source and supported by EFF and TOR
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby yauaustin202 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:20 am

Shouldn't this be pinned to the anoucements of every forum? Not everyone checks anouncements. Say forum games and FM users.
Would probably bring more awareness to the situation.
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby williewest » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:21 am

kristian818 wrote:
williewest wrote:There's a handy extension for Chrome, Firefox and Opera called Redirector by Einar Egilsson that can be used to make sure it redirects to https every time a BMG site is entered.


Personally I would recommend HTTPS everywhere as an extension instead. It is open source and supported by EFF and TOR

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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Technetium » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:24 am

yauaustin202 wrote:Shouldn't this be pinned to the anoucements of every forum? Not everyone checks anouncements. Say forum games and FM users.
Would probably bring more awareness to the situation.

Really, should go further than that in getting people to know of this.
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Michael007800 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:45 am

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yauaustin202 wrote:Shouldn't this be pinned to the anoucements of every forum? Not everyone checks anouncements. Say forum games and FM users.
Would probably bring more awareness to the situation.

Really, should go further than that in getting people to know of this.

I've just heard of this for the first time via the HaveIBeenPwned email alert. More info on the hack can be found on this website which alerted the breach.
https://blog.dehashed.com/town-of-salem ... es-hacked/

EDIT: Service name is HaveIBeenPwned, not You'veBeenPwned. I do recommend an account with them, its useful for tracking hacks on 99% of online websites.
https://haveibeenpwned.com/

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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Deagler » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:47 am

Dash2 wrote:Reading the OP again, did you guys seriously just all went on vacation with no monitoring of the site at all???


Relax, They did monitor. Dehashed's emails were going to spam. How often do you check your spam emails?

Also it's like a 5 person indie company, Chill out -- They were on holiday... Indie devs of all people deserve a break every now and then...
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby kristian818 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:09 am

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Dash2 wrote:Reading the OP again, did you guys seriously just all went on vacation with no monitoring of the site at all???


Relax, They did monitor. Dehashed's emails were going to spam. How often do you check your spam emails?

Also it's like a 5 person indie company, Chill out -- They were on holiday... Indie devs of all people deserve a break every now and then...



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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Sting » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:13 am

id ignore my phone over christmas too specially if it's a number i dont recognise. Might be negligence on BMG's part but that's not really important at this stage

Not the time to really point fingers and witch hunt until we know the full details in my opinion. Right now everybody associated with the game is in the same boat. Just cooperate until more news is broken then have your say. I'm sure they're all losing sleep tonight over this.
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby lemonader666 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:36 am

PotheadPrincess wrote:Could you perhaps update your password security? 6 characters is easy for hackers to bypass. Update it to 8 characters or more, with special characters and numbers

Symbols? Seriously? Jfc
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby yauaustin202 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:45 am

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PotheadPrincess wrote:Could you perhaps update your password security? 6 characters is easy for hackers to bypass. Update it to 8 characters or more, with special characters and numbers

Symbols? Seriously? Jfc

It's the user's choice on how responsible the user wanna be on their password security, that responsibility should be held by the user not the company. The company just needs to keep the passwords secure and not have them leaked.
Some of us don't feel like making our password s5N=S7J&MrMX?JEy and that should be okay. If my password is unhackablepassword123, and i get hacked, i deserve that.
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Achilles » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:45 am

We’re seeing some reports that weak passwords can be cracked through the md5 hash. If your ToS password is shared with any other accounts you should change those passwords to be safe.
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Technetium » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:49 am

Wikipedia article on MD5 hash wrote:The weaknesses of MD5 have been exploited in the field, most infamously by the Flame malware in 2012. The CMU Software Engineering Institute considers MD5 essentially "cryptographically broken and unsuitable for further use".


So...if the hashing isn't doing its job...why is that hashing method in use?
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby kruegerfreddy » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:53 am

Was only the Forum Database breached?
Was the game account breached?

If I login though Steam is that account in danger as well?

Why was I informed about this by Firefox alarm and why didnt you guys reach out to your users?
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby PrincessDespair » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:56 am

yauaustin202 wrote:
lemonader666 wrote:
PotheadPrincess wrote:Could you perhaps update your password security? 6 characters is easy for hackers to bypass. Update it to 8 characters or more, with special characters and numbers

Symbols? Seriously? Jfc

It's the user's choice on how responsible the user wanna be on their password security, that responsibility should be held by the user not the company. The company just needs to keep the passwords secure and not have them leaked.
Some of us don't feel like making our password s5N=S7J&MrMX?JEy and that should be okay. If my password is unhackablepassword123, and i get hacked, i deserve that.

Doing these procedures makes it much more difficult for hackers to crack it. I agree it is the user's decision of course, but I also don't want users to have to ever come across this kind of situation.
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby Achilles » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:56 am

Technetium wrote:
Wikipedia article on MD5 hash wrote:The weaknesses of MD5 have been exploited in the field, most infamously by the Flame malware in 2012. The CMU Software Engineering Institute considers MD5 essentially "cryptographically broken and unsuitable for further use".


So...if the hashing isn't doing its job...why is that hashing method in use?


Because we’re terrible developers obviously
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby kristian818 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:58 am

Sting wrote:id ignore my phone over christmas too specially if it's a number i dont recognise. Might be negligence on BMG's part but that's not really important at this stage

Not the time to really point fingers and witch hunt until we know the full details in my opinion. Right now everybody associated with the game is in the same boat. Just cooperate until more news is broken then have your say. I'm sure they're all losing sleep tonight over this.



Sorry but they did pick up the call and answer on the 28th
Dehashed note another call on the 29th was not answered.
Therefore they ignored the warning of the database hack.

https://blog.dehashed.com/town-of-salem ... es-hacked/
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby s9yk3r » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:01 am

So.. id' like to delete my town of salem account, how can i do?
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Re: Possible data breach

Postby SirRainbowTortoise » Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:06 am

kruegerfreddy wrote:Was only the Forum Database breached?
Was the game account breached?

If I login though Steam is that account in danger as well?

Why was I informed about this by Firefox alarm and why didnt you guys reach out to your users?



Your Steam data is technically safe, unless there is any link between your ToS password and other services such as email, Steam, etc. If you don't reuse passwords you're fine, basically, just change the ToS password.

That said, BMG, just because you weren't storing passwords in plaintext is hardly a reason to celebrate. Hashes can be cracked and the people who use easily crackable passwords will likely reuse them elsewhere. You need to have a warning displayed on entering the game and the forums to change your passwords, don't ignore this. A way to change the password ingame would also be pretty nice.
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