Botting Situation Update

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Botting Situation Update

Postby Achilles » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:26 pm

As many of you know, over the last 2-3 months we have been under attack by a group of people who created bots to spam in Town of Salem games, stall lobbies, and attempt to brute force Town of Salem accounts as well as forum accounts.

Today we know who those people are. We have linked IPs from bot accounts to the players main accounts, and we have screenshots from the infamous Grenzeland discord server that was used to organize the attacks where the botters admit to what they are doing.

We will be banning these people from the game and from the forums. There are more people than the ones listed involved with Grenzeland but the major players are listed below.

Bluewave41 - The mastermind responsible for creating and distributing the bot program in Grenzeland as well as account hacking innocent ToS players.
Abizoey - Responsible for the Trashfire spam bots.
Grenzemauer - Creator of the Grenzeland discord server. Known moonman and admitted botter.
DionysiusTragos - Known botter.
Dopamine / Shakira123 - Known botter (ran the “AFK” bots).
WittyRecluse / Rekcah - Responsible for many bot accounts with random letters as names.
BlackLivesRegister - Responsible for the BlackLives and Tituba bots and AutoHotkey scripts.
Cleveland - Responsible for the Cleveland spam bots.

It may come as a shock to find out that some of these long standing members of the community, as well as three ex-Trial Judges, are actually the people behind the bots and hacking. We feel it is important to provide some proof that we are 100% certain who these people are. We will be posting many screenshots from the Grenzeland discord. We have many more screenshots that we will not be showing because we are protecting the identities of the person or persons who helped inform us.


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Cactus Princess = Bluewave41
Cactus Prince = Abizoey
Invictus = DionysiusTragos
#JUSTICE4PABLO = WittyRecluse = Rekcah

Screenshots of them admitting when they started botting:
https://imgur.com/a/jOqCseD

Bluewave41 aka Cactus Princess referring to a reddit post where he was sharing too much information.
https://imgur.com/a/1BKC7V9

Bluewave41 aka Cactus Princess referring to private messages with TurdPile:
https://imgur.com/a/0ljT3k9

Several posts where Cactus Prince aka Abizoey mentions blue by name:
https://imgur.com/a/OWxO7YI

Bluewave41 aka Cactus Princess admitting that if he messed with TrialBot, TurdPile would be able to link that to him:
https://imgur.com/a/0ttaZru

Abizoey aka Cactus Prince being mentioned by name by Grenze:
https://imgur.com/a/WVsrxgM

Abizoey aka Cactus Prince bragging about how much damage their botting has caused:
https://imgur.com/a/JMppeNU

Abizoey aka Cactus Prince planning to spam trials with false reports and admitting to botting:
https://imgur.com/a/9Fgd524

Bluewave41 aka Cactus Princess hacking into innocent accounts after we went P2P:
https://imgur.com/a/Wwi3jbB

DionysiusTragos aka Invictus admitting to refund abuse and credit card fraud:
https://imgur.com/a/wbKgXaT

DionysiusTragos aka Invictus admitting to being a bot in a screenshot (NSFW):
https://imgur.com/a/z2W2v0d

Their group working together to solve captchas:
https://imgur.com/a/vxvkjOY

WittyRecluse aka Rekcah:
https://imgur.com/a/5RIlyzu

Dopamine attempting DDoS attacks:
https://imgur.com/a/5aXQIrF

We have other screenshots of them targeting our Facebooks, LinkedIn and even my personal home address and mailing me inappropriate things. They also planned to file false reports to the Better Business Bureau in an attempt to tarnish our company name. We would include screenshots of those too, however, again, we want to protect the identity or identities of the source of this information. These people gathered together to attack us in anyway they could think of. It is clear they had no intention of trying to help improve the game but merely enjoyed causing havoc and destruction anyway they could. As a result, these people and any known aliases will be getting banned and permanently blacklisted from both the game and the forum.


There was also an incident purely on Discord in which a user “Roxy” aka “accountingsteve” orchestrated a raid against our community with known moonmen/botters towards a server that was geared towards Town of Salem’s Wiki. A post was was made on Reddit (linked below) where TurdPile said a couple times that the evidence would be made available. We are also including such evidence here, although the user is not technically a botter (that we know of), they were still banned for malicious intent to harm our community.

Original Reddit Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/TownofSalemgame/comments/9ul2n0/being_suspected_of_committing_an_offence_on/

TurdPile’s response #1 (will have to expand): https://www.reddit.com/r/TownofSalemgame/comments/9ul2n0/being_suspected_of_committing_an_offence_on/e954alr

TurdPile’s response #2: https://www.reddit.com/r/TownofSalemgame/comments/9ul2n0/being_suspected_of_committing_an_offence_on/e96nvrb

Imgur album of raid proof (Wingz/Djaouida is the current server owner of the Wiki server):
https://imgur.com/a/KEXqWGV



We hope this brings an end to this incident and those involved will be held accountable.

Thank you to you all who are a part of this community and had to endure these problems. Thanks for staying, being patient, and understanding.

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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby BoringLorik » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:34 pm

well , im a very known troll in the trial server , ive trolled everyone .
But that helped me get in between them , i love trolling but when they started messing with business and costing people money its crossing the line.
so yeah i decided to go in there and i guess help with this .
Everything posted in here is true and all these people are responsible for the problems that they've caused the devs and everyone else , all the trolling , the blatant racism , these people are disgusting people and they think ruining businesses is funny , that shit costs people money and they've worked hard for it . Doing all this shit cause youre salty is no excuse , and im glad its over and they got their bans or w/e

Have fun everyone, i guess i did my part for once lmao
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby Lexiam » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:39 pm

Yea i was in their trusted discord channel when this happened, and im glad they are getting stopped for good now
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby Tahee » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:46 pm

Unpopular opinion: This only glorifies them further. The bots stopped after the transition to pay to play. Banning their tos account is nothing to them im sure. Unless you held them legally accountable in the real world might as well not say anything and just ban them.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby PyromonkeyGG » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:48 pm

Tahee wrote:Unpopular opinion: This only glorifies them further. The bots stopped after the transition to pay to play. Banning their tos account is nothing to them im sure. Unless you held them legally accountable in the real world might as well not say anything and just ban them.


Achilles wrote:We hope this brings an end to this incident and those involved will be held accountable.


We understand. We are looking into what is available to us.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby Achilles » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:50 pm

Tahee wrote:Unpopular opinion: This only glorifies them further. The bots stopped after the transition to pay to play. Banning their tos account is nothing to them im sure.


But they didn't stop. They turned to hacking into accounts, DDoSing our forums and attempting to get access to referral codes to get other people suspended/banned. They were still active on the forums and Reddit posting criticisms and fake concern trolling every chance they could.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby ObiWanCumnobi » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:53 pm

Tahee wrote:Unpopular opinion: This only glorifies them further. The bots stopped after the transition to pay to play. Banning their tos account is nothing to them im sure. Unless you held them legally accountable in the real world might as well not say anything and just ban them.


Sheds light on the issue instead of sweeping it under the rug, which is something a few of those named would jump on in a heartbeat.

Now Abi will need to get a real life instead of focusing on hating ToS on would hope. :lol:
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby Djaouida » Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:54 pm

Achilles wrote:There was also an incident purely on Discord in which a user “Roxy” aka “accountingsteve” orchestrated a raid against our community with known moonmen/botters towards a server that was geared towards Town of Salem’s Wiki. A post was was made on Reddit (linked below) where TurdPile said a couple times that the evidence would be made available. We are also including such evidence here, although the user is not technically a botter (that we know of), they were still banned for malicious intent to harm our community.

The incident resulted in several users getting banned from the Discord Server. (Most of which were unbanned after). But this is only one thing they did to the server over the course of several weeks.
Every so often a account would join the server, not do anything for a few days before spamming every single channel with NSFW images. Or even racism.
All the DMs listed in the imgur album are true. And the raid caught me heavily off-guard as I expected a typical raid.
These users also attempted several times to harass me (With little success) accusing me of being a suck-up and a power-hungry freak.
At the end of the day there is absolutely zero excuse for spamming blatant racism, NSFW images and attempting to bring down a business. It shows who these people really are and they deserve this entirely and any other karma coming for them.

It however, is extremely relieving to hear that this has finally come to a stop, and that the organizers have been punished respectively, and maybe they'll finally move on with their lives.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby rushofpower » Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:05 pm

I dont think this glorifies them, if anything it publicly humiliates them and really makes everything they've said in the past and all their posts complaining and fake caring about the game be absolute rubbish and throws their reputation in the gutter.


I'm glad to know that this has been brought to life, resolved and finished. Funnily enough 1/2 those names are the names of the people who whine and complain the most, trying to stir everyone up.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby Operaismo » Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:56 pm

crap you got us. stupid admins!
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Re: Botting Situation Update

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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby awesomeboy4924 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:17 pm

Good to see the assholes have been brought to justice here.

If you have the IPs, you can 100% go for those who engaged or helped participate in credit card fraud or personal mail/email attacks as a legal issue. Would be more fun seeing these folks arrested in real life for the shit they have caused you for the past few months. Don’t even think they realize how bad credit card fraud truly is and how that ruins your entire life if you are arrested for it.

I’m sure the entire player base is thankful for the stoppage of these people and the shit they have caused to you and the player base.

Thank you, BMG. Surprised you don’t get as much attention to your game as you truly deserve.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby Dash2 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:19 pm

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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby Amythyr » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:25 pm

I am extremely glad that this happened. It is shameful that trial judges did this as this goes against everything we believe in.

If they are targeting you irl then it is better to start criminal proceedings against them.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby rushofpower » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:27 pm

awesomeboy4924 wrote:Good to see the assholes have been brought to justice here.

If you have the IPs, you can 100% go for those who engaged or helped participate in credit card fraud or personal mail/email attacks as a legal issue. Would be more fun seeing these folks arrested in real life for the shit they have caused you for the past few months. Don’t even think they realize how bad credit card fraud truly is and how that ruins your entire life if you are arrested for it.

I’m sure the entire player base is thankful for the stoppage of these people and the shit they have caused to you and the player base.

Thank you, BMG. Surprised you don’t get as much attention to your game as you truly deserve.



Would you guys @BMG actually consider doing this though?

I dont think they should go away scot-free with something as a simple ban. You guys arent some big corporation, you're a small indie company and they wasted so much of your time, money and resources and attempted to ruin your business. I seriously think some of the older ones and more prominent botters deserve some legal ramifications. What they did to you guys personally and financially is NOT acceptable at all.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby TurdPile » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:32 pm

rushofpower wrote:
awesomeboy4924 wrote:Good to see the assholes have been brought to justice here.

If you have the IPs, you can 100% go for those who engaged or helped participate in credit card fraud or personal mail/email attacks as a legal issue. Would be more fun seeing these folks arrested in real life for the shit they have caused you for the past few months. Don’t even think they realize how bad credit card fraud truly is and how that ruins your entire life if you are arrested for it.

I’m sure the entire player base is thankful for the stoppage of these people and the shit they have caused to you and the player base.

Thank you, BMG. Surprised you don’t get as much attention to your game as you truly deserve.



Would you guys @BMG actually consider doing this though?

I dont think they should go away scot-free with something as a simple ban. You guys aren't some big corporation, you're a small indie company and they wasted so much of your time, money and resources and attempted to ruin your business. I seriously think some of the older ones and more prominent botters deserve some legal ramifications. What they did to you guys personally and financially is NOT acceptable at all.


Pyro said earlier in the thread that they are looking into their options. It may not even be fiscally sound to do that; legal things are expensive sometimes.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby Heylel » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:34 pm

Good job? You finally decided to take an action. However why known moonman aka Beyrone got unbanned?
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby rushofpower » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:37 pm

Heylel wrote:Good job? You finally decided to take an action. However why known moonman aka Beyrone got unbanned?
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rushofpower wrote:
awesomeboy4924 wrote:Good to see the assholes have been brought to justice here.

If you have the IPs, you can 100% go for those who engaged or helped participate in credit card fraud or personal mail/email attacks as a legal issue. Would be more fun seeing these folks arrested in real life for the shit they have caused you for the past few months. Don’t even think they realize how bad credit card fraud truly is and how that ruins your entire life if you are arrested for it.

I’m sure the entire player base is thankful for the stoppage of these people and the shit they have caused to you and the player base.

Thank you, BMG. Surprised you don’t get as much attention to your game as you truly deserve.



Would you guys @BMG actually consider doing this though?

I dont think they should go away scot-free with something as a simple ban. You guys aren't some big corporation, you're a small indie company and they wasted so much of your time, money and resources and attempted to ruin your business. I seriously think some of the older ones and more prominent botters deserve some legal ramifications. What they did to you guys personally and financially is NOT acceptable at all.


Pyro said earlier in the thread that they are looking into their options. It may not even be fiscally sound to do that; legal things are expensive sometimes.


Maybe something not big like a tribunal or arbitration? idkk but im glad that they are looking into options.

Also @Heylel im going to assume you've been on a vacation the past few months and havent seen any of the patch/update notes for you to be like "fiNaLy sOme AcTioN TaKEN"
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby ICECLIMBERS » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:44 pm

abizoey wrote:
shapesifter13 wrote:I went ahead and banned Blue too. If you claim to be a bot we will ban you. You are just adding to the problem. We are being very strict on this.


Have fun when your game dies if this is how you're going to act.

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Also are these people responsible for the attack that changed the board themes about 24 hours ago? If so I don't care about legal costs send them to j a i l.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby TurdPile » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:47 pm

ICECLIMBERS wrote:
abizoey wrote:
shapesifter13 wrote:I went ahead and banned Blue too. If you claim to be a bot we will ban you. You are just adding to the problem. We are being very strict on this.


Have fun when your game dies if this is how you're going to act.

:ThinkEyes:


Also are these people responsible for the attack that changed the board themes about 24 hours ago? If so I don't care about legal costs send them to j a i l.


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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:50 pm

TurdPile wrote:
ICECLIMBERS wrote:
abizoey wrote:
shapesifter13 wrote:I went ahead and banned Blue too. If you claim to be a bot we will ban you. You are just adding to the problem. We are being very strict on this.


Have fun when your game dies if this is how you're going to act.

:ThinkEyes:


Also are these people responsible for the attack that changed the board themes about 24 hours ago? If so I don't care about legal costs send them to j a i l.


Maybe, maybe not. I personally don't think so. But who knows, really.

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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby NotDove » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:50 pm

So the game became p2p because you couldn't stop a bunch of scripters in a public discord channel in time? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Also weren't the people behind the credit card fraud already found? Why bring this up and link it to some botters?
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby rushofpower » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:54 pm

NotDove wrote:So the game became p2p because you couldn't stop a bunch of scripters in a public discord channel in time? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Also weren't the people behind the credit card fraud already found? Why bring this up and link it to some botters?


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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby Dash2 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:57 pm

Honestly I just want to know what the point of all this nonsense was because nobody would go through this much work just for the sake of trolling.
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Re: Botting Situation Update

Postby ChubbyMooshroom9 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:58 pm

Dash2 wrote:Honestly I just want to know what the point of all this nonsense was because nobody would go through this much work just for the sake of trolling.

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