Patch 2.0 Original Town of Salem Changes

[wad321]

Finally, the bugs have been fixed. Good job!

[Farisi]

@shapesifter, can you guys please respond to any of the criticisms about how you're handling elo right now? It's been over 12 hours and it's radio silence. You have multiple experienced players saying this is a terrible idea, I know many people that I talk with just aren't playing ranked right now because of elo, and we're getting nothing from you. This silence is absolutely infuriating.

Gonna quote this to confirm that current ELO system is terrible.

[BustedBetty]

@Witty That is because of queue times and the amount of players playing ranked. If you were playing people near your Elo this wouldn't happen.

Of course they are not playing near their elo. Why did you change elo this drastic knowing that this is a small fan base. You are just pushing out the higher elo players. -14 for a surv lost????

Edit*

I also don't see jailor putting their names in death notes. They explain why they killed a person, who they are killing etc. Imagine the backlash when jailor executes a town. No good player wont reveal by a death note if they can come out to the town the next day.

[grunt22fox]

Hey I've been having issues connecting to Town of Salem on android mobile after June 4, the release of this patch, are you guys working on the servers of something? It just gives me a continuous Connecting to Server...

EDIT: As of right now, on the Google Play Store, it isn't showing any updates for Town of Salem, nor is the game version 2.0. It is 1.5.

[TGambitG]

I think a lot of your veteran players, myself included, are simply either going to quit (taz and such) or just stop playing ranked (me, and a few others) until the ELO is either reverted or made less punishing simply for being high (2k+) ELO.

This game doesn't have a good enough matchmaking system or large enough playerbase to support such a punishing ELO system.

The ELO changes might have looked good on paper, but they are a disaster.

[James24oo]

I don't know about anyone else, but when I try and go onto Town of Salem (after pressing the "PLAY NOW" button) I'm greeted with a white screen with two ads present on the side that won't go away no matter how long I wait. Now I don't know for sure, but I think it is to do with me closing the tab of Town of Salem in chrome whilst the servers where shutting down. My screen had froze and I had no clue what to do so I just shut it down. If anyone else has had any problems are knows how to fix it please help!

[Gracee]

Shapeshifter was answering a reddit-thread 45 minutes ago, yet there's no answer in this thread were most of the complaints and requests are. Great community management, topclass.

[Yangster]

Simply put: The playerbase is too small to sustain an elo system similar to other larger games like LoL and Overwatch as previously explained in the thread. The majority of people with an above average elo will lose all interest in the game as any form of balance in the only competitive gamemode has been removed. No one who cared just a tiny bit about their elo will queue up again because the only thing they're gonna get is high risk game for +1 at best with severe penalties if they lose.

So the public service announcement to any moderators or admins who have any influence on the game is thus: Your updated elo system is shit and the entire high elo community will stop playing your game until it's fixed. Congratulations on alienating the part of your community which has supported your game for the longest time and I hope you actually used the ridiculous amount of kickstarter money you earned to do something sensible other than this latest update.

[Algus]

literally can't join a game, what the fuck is this? and the garbage animated login screen makes logging inon this laptop take an extra 5 minutes, along with the loading of the random ad/junk on initial log in.

this is getting shittier and shittier by the day.

Revert the fucking terrible ui change, if that's the issue. Having the rules there is fine but the rest of it is ugly in general.

[shapesifter13]

We made a thread specific for Elo debates here, and are internally discuss the complaints as well: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68490&p=2201973#p2201973

[ShadowMelodys]

Hello. every since the new update i for some reason do not have a deathnote for vigilante. veteran. and jailor. but i still have them for mafia and NK please help me by fixing this issue i miss my deathnotes.

[BlazinIce]

@shapesifter
1) Why doesn't Witch have Powerful protection to defend from Juggernaut, Werewolf, and Arsonist? Also why does it work against town roles?
2) How long does it take to create a new role?

[BruceyBoyo]

Jester haunt is still affected by transportation. I just watched a transporter transport the haunt from himself to the godfather, who abstained on the jester.

Hello. every since the new update i for some reason do not have a deathnote for vigilante. veteran. and jailor. but i still have them for mafia and NK please help me by fixing this issue i miss my deathnotes.

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That would probably be because of Town death notes being removed.

[alex1234321]

I'm happy that some balancing changes were made. However, I wish that Witchsigliere was removed. What do you think about some different mechanics between Ranked/Ranked Practice and casual with a brief tutorial discussing the messages? That way, players in modes like Classic could play with "easier" mechanics while Ranked players could play with mechanics geared for competitive play.

[InflatedChimp]

Not a big fan of the Jester and Medium changes, though I know that the latter was a bug (and thought the Jester thing was too), I've always felt that they added another level to the game.

When it comes to Jester's haunt, u technically shouldn't be able to transfer the guilt to someone else, when they chose a specific target, but that's whatever.

Like I said, I'm aware that it was a bug, I just feel that it added another level to play. Something else that had to be taken into consideration by Trans and Evils.

[PlatonicTVS]

Off topic, but I don't agree with the removal of Jailor death notes. It'd be a good way to stay anonymous while still explaining why a player was executed. I get why they did it, but it seems like a huge nerf to the Jailor.

[Jerme]

Off topic, but I don't agree with the removal of Jailor death notes. It'd be a good way to stay anonymous while still explaining why a player was executed. I get why they did it, but it seems like a huge nerf to the Jailor.

It might be a Jailor nerf, but it is not like that the Jailor cannot sustain any nerfs at all, imo.

[TheWabbit]

@Doonlord the Witch still has the Consig results.

oh my god

[hunterpunter42]

I really don't like town not having death notes. Lately TOS players have decided VFR and random lynching is the best thing ever. THEY WILL LYNCH A CONFIRMED VET TRUST ME. Death notes were the ONLY true defense against that. Jailor needs his death note because it is how they explain why someone was executed. If a townie decides to gamethrow and claim mafia in jail, people will just see that jailor exed a townie now. It's a bad change. You should put up a vote to see who wants town's death notes back.

[Belshy]

I really don't like town not having death notes. Lately TOS players have decided VFR and random lynching is the best thing ever. THEY WILL LYNCH A CONFIRMED VET TRUST ME. Death notes were the ONLY true defense against that. Jailor needs his death note because it is how they explain why someone was executed. If a townie decides to gamethrow and claim mafia in jail, people will just see that jailor exed a townie now. It's a bad change. You should put up a vote to see who wants town's death notes back.

I think it's not really a bad idea. Town's win rate is significantly higher than evils because of the role list. Townies can no longer insta-confirm. Vigilante, Veteran, and Jailor all had ways to insta-confirm or in terms of jailor, ways to make demands and remain anonymous. If a jailor accidentally executes a townie instead of a scum and gets a little banter, big deal. If you can't ignore a little banter then this is the wrong game to be playing, to be honest.

Also, @shapesifter13 I had an idea that I wanted you to look over. I wrote it on orangeandblack5's new role list post so I'll just quote myself:

I really wish the results could be shortened. I think 3 is a good number, and even maybe 4 at most.

I respect in terms of claim space that it's hard to do but it's almost ridiculous to have to open chat every single time just to read the night results.

I feel you, but since some roles are DLC they need to be tacked on or made into DLC-only results.

Perhaps a secondary list-option might be plausible if it could be programmed and set up in the right way. I can imagine this may sound just bad, however what if there was an additional window for the investigator (similar to the mafia window that shows allies) with further information, and simply just lore and perhaps another small sentence in the chat window to indicate which group? For example:

Veteran, Tracker, Disguiser, Survivor, Werewolf - Your target is extremely paranoid.

In the collapsable window it could just have a list "Paranoid: Veteran, Tracker, Disguiser, Survivor, Werewolf"
and in the chat window it would just have: "Your target is extremely paranoid. [Maybe a small key sentence here]"

This may be more work than just opening the chat window if I'm honest, but I just like the idea of less things in my chat window. Ideally after a short time some experienced and more active players will remember these just based on the key words already but they could have a quick reference when needed rather than running to wikia, and for less experienced players who can't remember, it gives them something to reference until they can remember.

Note: It utilizes available space on the screen and unclutters my precious chat-box. That way it prevents having to try to further compact each result, and perhaps even gives room to further lists down the road, given when and if they add more roles, we'll go through this all over with possibly 6-7 roles at some point. Eesh.

[endergame301]

We've needed this for ages.

[peyo]

Is everyone's game working SO DAMN SLOW?

I'm barely able to play on a really good laptop (had no issues before the patch) - it's like 2FPS

[LevinSnakesRise]

Is everyone's game working SO DAMN SLOW?

I'm barely able to play on a really good laptop (had no issues before the patch) - it's like 2FPS

Have you tried changing your graphic settings? That's most likely the reasoning.

[ARIANNUHAN]

Can something be actually bought with merit points only?

[LevinSnakesRise]

Can something be actually bought with merit points only?

Anything that has both Merit Points and Town Points on it is able to be bought with Merit Points.