Soulshade55r wrote:Will their be a change in covens ranked?
shapesifter13 wrote:Jailor
Town Investigative
Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Town Support
Random Town
Random Town
Random Town
Godfather
Mafioso
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Witch
Exe
GreenStar02 wrote:Was a hard reset really necessary? It's caused many of us to lose so much progress
Soulshade55r wrote:GreenStar02 wrote:Was a hard reset really necessary? It's caused many of us to lose so much progress
That's the point of season bruh
GreenStar02 wrote:Was a hard reset really necessary? It's caused many of us to lose so much progress
TayuyaNala wrote:Okay so I have a question. Are you actually making fun of us??? 3rd list received the best feedback?? I think not. 2nd list was the best out of 3 also butchering nk is just brutal. Jailor is op already but now thing is just unstoppable. I actually want to know where the hell is this data comming from that 3rd list is the best out of all. BMG is killing their own damn game, like excuse me what? I play this game every single day and all i see around is just players that are either new new or throwing. Like throwing everything. What kind of high yall are on to think that butchering nk was best idea, and now also removing the ne too. Im sorry but I think that this is just going to make this game die faster than it already is dying
TayuyaNala wrote:Okay so I have a question. Are you actually making fun of us??? 3rd list received the best feedback?? I think not. 2nd list was the best out of 3 also butchering nk is just brutal. Jailor is op already but now thing is just unstoppable. I actually want to know where the hell is this data comming from that 3rd list is the best out of all. BMG is killing their own damn game, like excuse me what? I play this game every single day and all i see around is just players that are either new new or throwing. Like throwing everything. What kind of high yall are on to think that butchering nk was best idea, and now also removing the ne too. Im sorry but I think that this is just going to make this game die faster than it already is dying
Brilliand wrote:I wish the NE was entirely removed from Ranked. Differentiating Witch from Exe certainly helped, but really Exe/Jester don't belong in Ranked at all (because they don't have to care which side wins), and even Witch has the problem that its win condition isn't exactly "wins when Mafia wins".
I'm among those who think the 2nd list was the best of the three. The "large Mafia group" dynamics were actually interesting; NEs don't have that, not even if they're Witches. So... I'm curious where the "most positive feedback" bit came from, though I suspect I know: the devs were watching the average mood of comments, not their content, and the switch from 2nd list to 3rd list came at a time when the "how dare you remove the NK" posts mostly petered out and constructive criticism started to dominate the discussion.
While this is true, you can't really balance the game around one team being dumb.Soulshade55r wrote:Depends being stuck in a dumb town with 5 mafia isn't fun lmaoBrilliand wrote:I wish the NE was entirely removed from Ranked. Differentiating Witch from Exe certainly helped, but really Exe/Jester don't belong in Ranked at all (because they don't have to care which side wins), and even Witch has the problem that its win condition isn't exactly "wins when Mafia wins".
I'm among those who think the 2nd list was the best of the three. The "large Mafia group" dynamics were actually interesting; NEs don't have that, not even if they're Witches. So... I'm curious where the "most positive feedback" bit came from, though I suspect I know: the devs were watching the average mood of comments, not their content, and the switch from 2nd list to 3rd list came at a time when the "how dare you remove the NK" posts mostly petered out and constructive criticism started to dominate the discussion.
MysticMismagius wrote:While this is true, you can't really balance the game around one team being dumb.Soulshade55r wrote:Depends being stuck in a dumb town with 5 mafia isn't fun lmaoBrilliand wrote:I wish the NE was entirely removed from Ranked. Differentiating Witch from Exe certainly helped, but really Exe/Jester don't belong in Ranked at all (because they don't have to care which side wins), and even Witch has the problem that its win condition isn't exactly "wins when Mafia wins".
I'm among those who think the 2nd list was the best of the three. The "large Mafia group" dynamics were actually interesting; NEs don't have that, not even if they're Witches. So... I'm curious where the "most positive feedback" bit came from, though I suspect I know: the devs were watching the average mood of comments, not their content, and the switch from 2nd list to 3rd list came at a time when the "how dare you remove the NK" posts mostly petered out and constructive criticism started to dominate the discussion.
As for my thoughts on the role list, I'm going to tentatively echo the sentiment that the second list was the best one, with the caveat that all of them had their problems. I feel like they rushed into Season 5 too fast without really taking into account all of the things that the game needed (role list and otherwise) to be more balanced and fun.
MysticMismagius wrote:I feel like they rushed into Season 5 too fast without really taking into account all of the things that the game needed (role list and otherwise) to be more balanced and fun.
joaodasalmas wrote:Abilities: You can reveal yourself as the King Potato, and now you can't be voted.
TayuyaNala wrote:Okay so I have a question. Are you actually making fun of us??? 3rd list received the best feedback?? I think not. 2nd list was the best out of 3 also butchering nk is just brutal. Jailor is op already but now thing is just unstoppable. I actually want to know where the hell is this data comming from that 3rd list is the best out of all. BMG is killing their own damn game, like excuse me what? I play this game every single day and all i see around is just players that are either new new or throwing. Like throwing everything. What kind of high yall are on to think that butchering nk was best idea, and now also removing the ne too. Im sorry but I think that this is just going to make this game die faster than it already is dying
superdog551 wrote:In the last ten ranked games I played mafia won one and town won nine times in a row. Maybe it's just bad luck but to me this list is another where mafia struggle. I really liked the second list, 5 mafia was super fun and made for some interesting set ups though I also realize that town had a bit of a disadvantage. I think that a few more tests could've been done, preferably with 5 mafia as the focus.
DiamondRanger8 wrote:Yeah imo, this list is too Town sided. If a Mafia member leaves night 1 Mafia is completely screwed over too. NK needs to be brought back to balance out the Town issues, instead of Executioner
DiamondRanger8 wrote:TayuyaNala wrote:Okay so I have a question. Are you actually making fun of us??? 3rd list received the best feedback?? I think not. 2nd list was the best out of 3 also butchering nk is just brutal. Jailor is op already but now thing is just unstoppable. I actually want to know where the hell is this data comming from that 3rd list is the best out of all. BMG is killing their own damn game, like excuse me what? I play this game every single day and all i see around is just players that are either new new or throwing. Like throwing everything. What kind of high yall are on to think that butchering nk was best idea, and now also removing the ne too. Im sorry but I think that this is just going to make this game die faster than it already is dying
NK disrupted Jailor meta to an extent, but I don't think NKs are the answer to Jailor meta. Mafia should just get a rework or a new role that would be confirmed in the list that screws over the Jailor meta, such as one unstoppable astral attack from the Mafioso.
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