TylerDurden99 wrote:Let the framer visit mafia one time so they look inno/visited by mafia to the spy.
TylerDurden99 wrote:Let the framer visit mafia one time so they look inno/visited by mafia to the spy.
Circi wrote:TylerDurden99 wrote:Let the framer visit mafia one time so they look inno/visited by mafia to the spy.
This would be a better buff. Buff with lo is a bit useless imo, lookouts' main function is more often to confirm visiting roles in ranked than catching mafia killing.
Circi wrote:Buff with lo is a bit useless imo, lookouts' main function is more often to confirm visiting roles in ranked than catching mafia killing.
DragonClaw66 wrote:Abilities: Choose a player at night to framer. Choose another player to focus. You will not visit the focused player. You can choose yourself as the focused player.
Attributes:
- If you are lynched (or killed at night?), you will appear to be the role of the last player you framed.
- If a framed player...
...is tracked by a Tracker, it will appear as if they visited the focused player.
...is investigated by an Investigator, they will appear to a Framer, Vampire, Jester, or Hex Master.
...is interrogated by a Sheriff, they will appear to be a member of the Mafia.
...visits a player that is trapped, the Trapper will receive a notification of a Framer visiting the player.
- If a focused player is...
...is watched by a Lookout, it will appear as if they were visited by the framed player.
- A framed player will appear in a Psychic’s evil (odd-numbered night) vision. There must still be a player that would normally appear as evil. A framed player will never appear in the Psychic’s good (even-numbered night) vision.
- Your visit cannot be seen by a Spy (that would completely counter this role).
lemonader666 wrote:Hello there
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SwampRabbit wrote:WAIT--what if you make the framed target appear to visit whoever the mafia is attacking in place of the killing mafia??? That way if LO is watching tp, or jailor or whoever, mafia can just kill them and frame to make it look like someone else did it.
shapesifter13 wrote:Circi wrote:TylerDurden99 wrote:Let the framer visit mafia one time so they look inno/visited by mafia to the spy.
This would be a better buff. Buff with lo is a bit useless imo, lookouts' main function is more often to confirm visiting roles in ranked than catching mafia killing.
While this may be true, we are focusing on the Lookout here. The other investigative roles will have their time to be discussed as well. Just trying to keep this topic focused.
Circi wrote:shapesifter13 wrote:Circi wrote:TylerDurden99 wrote:Let the framer visit mafia one time so they look inno/visited by mafia to the spy.
This would be a better buff. Buff with lo is a bit useless imo, lookouts' main function is more often to confirm visiting roles in ranked than catching mafia killing.
While this may be true, we are focusing on the Lookout here. The other investigative roles will have their time to be discussed as well. Just trying to keep this topic focused.
Thats what I'm trying to say.......the buff you are suggesting isn't that useful because the function of lookout is more to confirm visiting roles than to catch mafia killing.
Circi wrote:the function of lookout is more to confirm visiting roles than to catch mafia killing.
SwampRabbit wrote:WAIT--what if you make the framed target appear to visit whoever the mafia is attacking in place of the killing mafia??? That way if LO is watching tp, or jailor or whoever, mafia can just kill them and frame to make it look like someone else did it.
TheFluffyWaffleV2 wrote:SwampRabbit wrote:WAIT--what if you make the framed target appear to visit whoever the mafia is attacking in place of the killing mafia??? That way if LO is watching tp, or jailor or whoever, mafia can just kill them and frame to make it look like someone else did it.
If this comes through there could be an achievement for a Lookout seeing himself visit someone (LO on Mafia target, LO gets framed)
TheFluffyWaffleV2 wrote:Also LO doesn’t need nerf smh
Brilliand wrote:TheFluffyWaffleV2 wrote:Also LO doesn’t need nerf smh
While I disagree with you... I think the point here is more that Framer needs a hell of a buff.
TheFluffyWaffleV2 wrote:Also LO doesn’t need nerf smh
SwampRabbit wrote:But for this to be effective, it should also be invisible to the spy or else it is pointless and the framer is still stuck at home not visiting anyone.
shapesifter13 wrote:Hey Townies!
We are looking into ways to help improve the framers role in the Mafia as the anti-investigate role. Currently it only affects the Sheriff and the Investigator, leaving the Spy, Lookout, Psychic, and Tracker unaffected. In this post I am going to focusing on the Lookout specifically.
One possibility to improve the framer would be to show the lookout that the framed target visited their target. This, combined with the lookout seeing 3 roles max per night, would mean the framer has more power as an anti-investigative role. As the community, what is your opinion on a change like this. Is there any scenario that this would be a negative? Is there another suggestion to effect the lookout that wouldn't require extra targeting menus for the framer?
The Spy really ought to just be reworked entirelyDragonClaw66 wrote:For a general point, I think y'all should focusing on changing the Framer's interaction with the Spy (aka, make the Spy not hardcounter the Framer simply by existing). Even if you just make Framer visits invisible to the Spy, which wouldn't be the best change, it would be better than nothing.
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