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Qvapil wrote:I couldn't not kill seth last day, he was pretty much confirmed town. I don't know why everyone thought I should kill Debil, I would be the only one who'd possibly make that kill. Seth was a kill all of us could have done and it kept open the possibility of the lynch going threeways instead of just a 1v1.

it was a good kill imo.
it seems to have finished chemist's wim off, lol xd

If I were you, THINK I might have killed him as well just to make sure that seth doesn't change his mind later :/

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
wifomwifomwifom
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 8:19 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

UzayAltay wrote:https://discord.gg/4GAa5x = Maf-chat ( It seems Over forget it )

Tfios was very obvious town .
The All push on tfios was bad , including shooting them .
Not blaming You much for closing PoE , but still it wasnt The way to go .

well, ok, that's fair

and thx for the link :P
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 7:08 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Chemist1422 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
ejjinami wrote:I'll be incredibly surprised if he doesn't get the newbie of the year award after this.

Actually, all alignments played well here... It was such a good game xD
And dash's red check on Cup was incredibly helpful
Shame that we lost though


If I were town I'd be incredibly mad over goomba and tfios's defences tbh

Oh yeah

Goomba’s defense was kinda pathetic

It was “I’m not SK don’t lynch me” then not posting at all again

Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:yeah if chemist put in more effort in defending himself would have 100% pushed on qva
he himself.acknowledged me killing seth to make no sense but didnt put 2 and 2 together so i assumed he was sk trying to get any lynch going

no I was just done


I feel it's a bit hypocritical :/
but ok
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 6:28 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

thx for hosting though :P
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 6:02 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

TheDebil wrote:he was like "yeah lemme do stuff" and did nothing

over was ok host but you really need to do an event log next time
it really.helps us navigate

and color the flips! D:<

it's soooo easy to miss them while reading
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 6:01 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

has the maf-chat been released btw???
I didn't see a link anywhere

hey, 0ver
>:3
release it, please
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 5:56 am
 
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Qvapil wrote:I also didn't expect people to listen to me, both on cfd'ing off tfios and on lynching goomba over chemist D4. I felt I was throwing my chances away after these XD

/pat xD
Heh
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 5:55 am
 
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UzayAltay wrote:Not much to speak , tfios shoot was bad

IT WASN’T
I still believe shooting tfios was the best choice I could have made.

We were in 6:1, had I not shot or had my shot failed, we’d have ended up in MyLo (5:1=>3:1) instead of LyLo (4:1=>2:1).
I thought that unless my reads were terribly wrong, maf-immune SK wouldn’t have allowed me to shoot and trying to shoot a town-immune SK wouldn’t have been any different from not shooting at all.
The best course of action was to try to shoot a scummy and easily ML-able TOWNIE to make PoE easier. Trying to kill SK would have been bad play.

I re-read chemist’s iso and kind of changed my mind about him being scum.
People seemed to SR him and tfio the most though, so I thought shooting among them should be a good idea.

Now then, fair chances are, if chemist was SK, he would have blocked me. It’s very likely that SK!chem (even if town immune) would have done the math and figured out that letting me shoot (and getting to LyLo instead of MyLo) is a bad idea. He’s just that kind of player
Because of that, successfully shooting another townie should have been a good argument for chem being town.
Aaaaand I hoped town!chem would have been able to defend himself better than town!tfio ):
But the townies didn’t think of analyzing the NKs that way and chem didn’t even try to defend himself seriously…………

Tbh the way he gave up in LyLo was kinda saddening
“We might lose, but I’ve won anyways because seth was wrong”
“I could defend myself with WIFOM, but I won’t do it at all cuz it’s useless”

Wtf ):
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 5:53 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Qvapil wrote:Thanks guys I really enjoyed this game.

Same xD
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 5:40 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Btw, @woahah who r u?
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 2:53 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: SK win #rekt

Well, I didn't like the way they played in LyLo either, but besides that I really think they deserve the win
I had them as lock-town most of the time, lol
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 2:51 am
 
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Flake wrote:lowkey mad that i lost the game when i'd have solved all mafia during d3 tfios where they made it blatant that they flip town

qva played decently up until f3 where i feel they actually became obvious, lots of hedging and woe is me, and also in that f3 specifically the argument as to why SK would leave vig switch off comes into play massively, since chemist or debil both could easily have been shot, but no one cared about it

/pat
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 2:49 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Flake wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
TheDebil wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Unless you banked on seth being dense

given how seth has been this entire game.yes i would bank on.seth being dense

:clap:

so, SK hunting sucks. I'm also not going to wifom the night kill because it doesn't work.

let's rewind back to the tfios shot from ejji. why did the sk not switch ejji off?

two options, could be combined
1. stupid
2. wasnt in any danger

does either apply to me?

why did no one care about the obvious argument alluding to qva being SK

it just went ignored for some reason and no one even suspected qva even slightly because of it

Well........... the town knowing that I was allowed to shoot was another reason why I wanted to shoot tfio
They didn't know if SK chose town or mafia immunity though, so if anything my shot should have proven that the SK didn't notice that letting me mis-shoot would have lead to the game ending in LyLo instead of MyLo.
This probably cleared chemist, cuz I feel he should have noticed it as SK, regardless of what immunity he chose... but idk if it should be telling for the other players

/shrug
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 2:48 am
 
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I'll be incredibly surprised if he doesn't get the newbie of the year award after this.

Actually, all alignments played well here... It was such a good game xD
And dash's red check on Cup was incredibly helpful
Shame that we lost though
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 2:39 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: €:?,'akhfkskbdvshsorbsg

Nice. Qvap deserved the win imo, he played great

ejjinami wrote:If Qvap is scum, he had won before getting his RC

Heh
by ejjinami
Mon May 27, 2019 2:37 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Seththeking wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Seththeking wrote:/Vote Rick

Whatever IDRC TBH.
If this is Town Shoot Chemist.
Tfios is Town here.


Let's be frank. IF you genuinely want to convince me to shoot anyone, make a real case and don't ignore people when they try to discuss it with you. That's my absolute bottom line for taking the other person seriously. You being right or wrong here doesn't even matter.
I'm sorry for being rude, but I'm not the type to waste time talking to someone who doesn't even see me as their equal.
reconsider your behavior, don't ignore others when they're clearly putting effort into talking with you and maybe then we can talk

next


If you shoot either Tfios or Chemist. The other remaining one is the last scum.
Like it’s Tfios/Chemist.
So shooting one of them is good just say who your shooting so if their still alive we push them.

you know, I don't want to be an ass, but have you actually responded to chemist's arguments?
I mean, nicely?
have you talked with him like a human and explained why his arguments are bad instead of just repeating yours over and over again?

I wrote a "wall" in response to your posts as well and asked you to talk to me, but I'm not even sure if you bothered reading it.

anyway, I'm serious about what I wrote before. So sorry. I hope you don't take it personally
by ejjinami
Tue May 21, 2019 7:35 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Thank you Uzay very cool.

Also we have 3 bloody cit claims already why yall do this...

Lamist
GrumpyGoomba wrote: Spoiler:
Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:reasoning being because entry was wolfy

tfios entries are always similarly wolfy

nai

That's not gonna change my view
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Uzay is town honestly

Why do you think so? Just curious.

Because he's being how he always is as town, plus nothing strikes me as scummy.

can you be a bit more specific

No

I am most definitely not liking this response. My eyes are on you dash.
GrumpyGoomba wrote:I have finally skimmed through the happenings of yesterday given my abysmal net rn. It seems like I have made some bad plays and in turn have ended up getting scumread by a majority of the active people in here.

To answer some of the matters addressed about me,
My response on dash replying with a simple no to flake's call for elaboration was not meant as a push at all but a reaction test to see how she would respond. And it seems to have spectacularly backfired on me.
[snip
]
The reaction test isn’t scummy imo. It looking “fake” could come from them simply misunderstanding the definition of a “push”.
(meaning, they said it was a reaction test, just simply because “they didn’t want to lynch dash for that 1 response and wanted to see their reaction to pressure”… which basically means that they were pushing him, lol)

In other words, I think it’s NAI


GrumpyGoomba wrote: [snip] My confession of not having done much wasn't worded right. I meant to say I haven't done as much as I would've liked to have done. I guess I can't use my train trip as an excuse since that would count as angleshooting and I do not intend on doing so as well. [snip]

Ok, this one is scummy as well
GrumpyGoomba wrote: [snip] Since I am already getting scumread I guess there goes my idea of claiming a pr to waste the mafia/sk night kill on me down the drain...

I will now go iso dive and have some reads ready shortly. Any questions are welcome.

And honestly, I don’t know what to think of this one
Prob depends on where they got the idea from and what experience they have with fake-claiming…
I can see it going either way tbh

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Sigh... I know I am being extremely frustrating to deal with and I hate it. I just didn't know what else to do save claim my role and just come clean since I am town so I should have nothing to hide. Y'all are gonna hate me when flip town and thus I'm ashamed of myself. -_-

Well, I admit that my reasoning here might be bad, but I personally haven’t seen scum try to “act lamist” and “criticize themselves” at the same time…

Simply: they were either INTENTIONALLY trying to manipulate everyone that way
Or it was sincere

Fuck, I know I wrote it in a bad way, I don’t actually know how to explain that and it doesn't give me a strong read anyway
And there isn’t much time left.... I can't quote anything more




I still think the way they reacted to Dash and Zuck (the way they criticized them while still being absolutely unhelpful) should be town indicative. (natural/sincere/w/e you want to call it)
that's prob it for me though :/
by ejjinami
Tue May 21, 2019 7:30 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Chemist1422 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:/pat

(don't hate me)

Image

hugs and positivity all around

Image
by ejjinami
Tue May 21, 2019 7:04 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Chemist1422 wrote:What do you think tfios would be doing as scum here?
What do you think of Goomba's D1 AtE stuff?

1.
I THINK they might have been more likely to post a read-list or PoE instead of just pushing a single player.. maybe sth like when they read cup and crimson? I admit that I'm not very confident in reading them based on that though...
and I still think the part about them being unaware of being the main wagon should be town-indicative.
Previously, my main reason for SRing them were their interactions with cup, but if mafia, I really doubt tfio would have cared this little and I don't think they'd be likely to fake that...

2.
In short, it isn't scummy enough. I think I need to look through their iso again to explain it though, give me a few minutes.
Btw, have you played with them before? can you tell me if they act like that normally?
by ejjinami
Tue May 21, 2019 7:03 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Chemist1422 wrote:meh I don't really want to CFD

pffffffft xD
by ejjinami
Tue May 21, 2019 6:50 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

/pat

(don't hate me)
by ejjinami
Tue May 21, 2019 6:49 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

...................................................................
:c

well, I'm gonna feel like shit if he flips town........

I might end up feeling like shit regardless because he hasn't posted till now, so it's rather clear that sth happened and he can't defend himself anyway
by ejjinami
Tue May 21, 2019 6:48 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Fun fact, besides the interactions with Uzay and Rick "avoiding" talking about the main wagons till EoD D1, the main reason why I think he might be mafia is because of his overreaction to flake's pressure.

I understand that flake's posts might have angered him and I feel shitty for even saying that, but I feel the reaction was still a bit overblown.
Rick is good at faking emotions as scum and I've seen him do it before, so I really doubt it's outside of his scum-range.
And I really don't like the way he SRd Flake and chem afterward. It felt like it was at least partially caused by "anger" and no matter how I think of it, it seems like sth that should come from scum more often than town

and I know that I might not be great in reading him, but him being that aggressive, when angered, when he's usually calm and seems to think about everything multum times before he posts, just feels scummy
by ejjinami
Tue May 21, 2019 6:47 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Chemist1422 wrote:hi ejji

A wagon change is potentially possible if one more person shows up

Do you mind answering my question really quickly?

yeah, I was just doing it...

Idk if I should try to read rick rn...
lynching you is probably out of question because it's unlikely that 3 more people will show up before EoD

actually, do even want to CFD now?
if yes, to who?
by ejjinami
Tue May 21, 2019 6:36 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Chemist1422 wrote:Not sure if wagon is pure or not

Ejji what's your PoE

I don't want to lynch tfio today after all

I feel we shouldn't lynch Debil either... I think they might have been able to fake all of those reads as scum, but I have no real reason to suspect them... and they did put in effort to catch up and read everything, so I feel they should at least be allowed to live till the next day
Well, that's a p shitty reason to read someone in "MyLo", but /shrug

and unless someone gives me a good reason to lynch grumpy, I'm not doing it either

so I'd probably want to lynch you or rick... :/
well, that's not a good way to convince you to vote with me, is it
by ejjinami
Tue May 21, 2019 6:32 pm
 
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