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hereisme wrote:

UzayAltay wrote:How bad I was ?

You weren't bad until late Day One when you kept vote on Scorp.
Then you TMIed Day Two.
Other than that, you weren't bad.
Your buddies could have been better.
Phone has to work on pushing when scum.
He gives weak and fluffy reasoning.
MM actually didn't break the tie on Phone.
My vote did, his was the vote right after.
And I was worried about when b4l bussed Uzay.
I felt like people were gonna town read it even though naked vote.

Also wanna say GJ NotEx, I was very happy with you D3+4.

ejjinami wrote:

UzayAltay wrote:Also Wait , Chem Literally ignored Looking one of The most important VC s , The ones before Phone CFD .

That's just shade
And don't quote my posts when talking about chemist
Does that give you a read on him? If not then why did you even post it?
It would be great if you answered chemist's post if you haven't already btw

ejjinami wrote:

Chemist1422 wrote:

EoD1 VC wrote:ejjinami|1|Eragon1329;
James|1|Phone0Ix;
tfiosforevah|1|James;
ScorpioDiAngelo|3|TheWabbit, lilgangsta, UzayAltay;
Phone0Ix|6|tfiosforevah, Chemist1422, ejjinami, hereisme, MafiaMenace, NotExacerbated

Town counterwagon to a wolf means there's likely a wolf in lilgangsta/Uzay. I don't think there's more than one wolf on the Phone wagon, as killing on the wagon would reduce the bussing PoE. I'm kind of surprised the kears slot wasn't killed.

Important? D2 VC wrote:Eragon1329|2|NotExacerbated, TheWabbit;
ScorpioDiAngelo|2|UzayAltay, MafiaMenace;
UzayAltay|3|Chemist1422, lilgangsta, Eragon1329

Two town counterwagons with two town on the wagon is a bad look for Uzay here. I didn't include the EoD2 VC because it's not as important as this.

/vote Uzay (again)

I don't think I can agree with the first part of the analysis. It's not like scorpio's wagon was made as an counterwagon to phone, it was the complete opposite. No one on scorpio's wagon could have known that it'll ever be important, so there's literally nothing that would make scum more likely to vote scorpio than anyone else on the playerlist.

If uzay is scum it would prob spew a lot of people town.
If he's town, it would prob mean that the scums were slacking lately. The game seems rather inactive and if all of those wagons were on town, so there wouldn't be any pressure on them to change anything.

P.edit
Hi basic

BasicFourLife wrote:okay after reading d1, a bit of d2 and some of d3, and some isos, here are some of my reads

exa is obv town, from that doc to cit claim. i dont think mafia would be retarded enough to claim doc in this setup when they can just easily all claim cit, esp after what happened with scorpio

i saw after reading through wabbit's iso that he claimed doc and im assuming since exa retracted his claim he is uncontested although feel free to lmk if i am wrong since i really didnt bother reading the mess on d2

tfiosasfas (whatever his name is) is pretty lock town from that open post he started the Phoenix CFD on. easy town

chem remains as slight town, just because i have also seen him play as scum very towniely and innocent. gut is telling me he is town, hence the small town read

this leaves gangsta/kears/ejji/uzay.

gangsta remains null, this would be different if i knew what their main was but for now it is null since i dont feel like iso diving him yet

kears is okay i guess, if i had to pick someone to lynch from these 4 people she would be the last or the second last id wanna lynch. i dont really know what to say about her yet, so ill leave her be

ejji/uzay 100% contains 1 scum from poe and the fact that both of those slots seem the scummiest to me

uzay's scum read is mainly because of his vote pattern - d1 voted scorpio, d2 no one and d3 exa. so he has only voted townies so far and not been on scum at all. his exa vote really seems to be a panic vote since he is pushed into a corner atm and exa may be the only other person lynched to him it seems so he is using it to try to push a counter wagon against him. Id expect more from Uzay tbh, instead of pushing the 2nd largest wagon and actually try to scum hunt

ejji feels really ehh rn, i remember playing my first game and one other with him and he was a lot more enthusiastic and trying to solve the game. I get the vibe from him that hes just trying to pass along to whatever is going on. also i really didnt fucking like this post viewtopic.php?f=17&t=96804&p=3090055#p3090055 from him, its a soft way of defending that he is trying to do here by making Chem questioning himself and it is something i would expect from an experienced player like Ejji if he was scum. and no him being on phone wagon doesnt make him town, since it after those 2 votes by tfio and chem it was gonna happen anyways and if you read from this post onwards viewtopic.php?f=17&t=96804&p=3091211#p3091208 you can see the hesitation in his posts even though there were only few minutes left in the day. his night plans were good, but they wont make up for the shit he did d1.

fine for an ejji or an uzay lynch, would prefer Uzay

NotExacerbated wrote:

NotExacerbated wrote:I realized my push was wrong, so I rescinded it. I'm not about to fucking strongarm a doctor lynch if I realize im wrong. If I didn't rescind the claim and drew a night kill you al would've been like HOLY SHIT EXA IS SO GOOD WOOAAAAHHH

NotExacerbated wrote:Would you rather I dont rescind the claim and we lynch Eragon and he flips doc or I rescind the claim and push scorpio.
This isn't fucking rocket science.

NotExacerbated wrote:Also consider:
There were no mafia among the doctor claimants, therefore mafia had no reason not to just hit the doctors.
Thus it wasn't a game winning plan.
FmPoV we solve the doctor dilemma by lynching Scorpio and that's the end of it.

None of these explains Why You rescinded it yesterday When You can Do it today early .


So you going OOOH EXA RUINED TOWN CONFIRMED WIN lol no there were no mafia in the 4 doc claims. So mafia just hits the doctors, eventually we ML one of them and then mafia gets a big tempo swing. So good job using your head and thinking.

TheWabbit wrote:...and this is where I get stuck on a dilemma.

I was thinking N2 possible motivations for NotExacerbated to fakeclaim twice in a row. Things lead to me focusing on the Doctor claims. Motive was unclear. On general context, it looks bad, but I didn't catch that they were trying to fakeclaim so if there was scum in [Eragon/Wabbit], the second real doctor would've claimed Doctor as well as it will "solidify a Town win". Doesn't really sound foolproof and thus failed.

Are people still on with Uzay being scum?

ejjinami wrote:Classes end in 2 hours, I've read everything, but typing is too distracting
I know that I'm not playing as well as I could but it's not my fault here. If you want to lynch me, just go ahead because it's really unlikely to change later
So even if you don't, don't expect much more from me
I don't think I have anything more to say about that

I hate notExa's claim, but tbh I can't write anything bad about it. I tried reading through his iso and the tone changes while claiming/backing off feel just natural
But uzay NEEDS to be lynched, tbh I don't even care about his explanation rn, cuz I feel that regardless of what he says, it's really unlikely to make me trust him anytime later. That post was just terrible

His post also makes him really unlikely to be with a team with exa, but I don't have time to write about it rn
I'll be back after classes, probably
If not then I'll prob just replace out
Bye

tfiosforevah wrote:I'll vote Uzay if he doesn't have any good defense, but I'll keep it on L-2 for now because I don't want any accidental hammer

lilgangsta wrote:

lilgangsta wrote:What do you think of NotEx's fake-claim though? Do you think it's a claim town is likely to make more so than Scorp's claim?

Edited because previous post was stupid

lilgangsta wrote:

UzayAltay wrote:

lilgangsta wrote:I'll be around until EOD, let's talk.
Wabbit, do you think Scorpio is the best lynch here? I'd prefer to lynch Uzay, but i can also settle for NotEx here if you guys want to.

I can settle for Exa CFD , too , even I am thinking Scorp is More likely to be scum .

Why so?
I think NotEx's fake-claim is more suspicious than Scorp's.

lilgangsta wrote:I'll be around until EOD, let's talk.
Wabbit, do you think Scorpio is the best lynch here? I'd prefer to lynch Uzay, but i can also settle for NotEx here if you guys want to.

TheWabbit wrote:/vote ScorpioDiAngelo

think this is better than Uzay rn

lilgangsta wrote:So the real Doc's are Wabbit and Eragon, right?
No one else wants to claim doc or retract their current claim?
I'm not sure why people are trying to lynch Scorp, when NotEx's claim is much more scum-motivated.

Unofficial VC wrote:ScorpioDiAngelo|4|UzayAltay, MafiaMenace ,TheWabbit , NotExacerbated;
UzayAltay|3|Chemist1422, lilgangsta, Eragon1329

ejjinami wrote:

Chemist1422 wrote:No heal pools

It lets scum fakeclaim that they targeted the other person in the pool

That's why I'm against letting wabbit do it.
I don't think eragon will, but if everyone thinks otherwise, I'm ok with having him heal 1 player.
And you're TRing notExa, so you should be ok with him having a heal pool, right?

Eragon1329 wrote:

UzayAltay wrote:Erağon , I hadnt say he would be towny If he accepted he claimed for save himself . He just had A chance in my Eyes .
It is obvious he hadnt Do that for Actually Bait The kill , it is Why I see it as A scumslip , he is lying to us about Why he claimed .
Maybe I should Word it better , but given that there is Scorpio's claim on table when other docs claims are Coming , We cant think Scorp seperate from them .
Can You explain Why You are thinking Scorpio may claimed doc as citizen , but not thinking The Same when it comes to Wabbit or Exa ?
You are thinking Exa is scum , I am thinking Scorp is scum . If The situation would be opposite , and Exa claimed Day 1 and Than retract it Day 2 instead Scorp , would You still say " Exa isnt A doc claimer , so there is scum at Wab / Scorp ? "

because Wabbit and Exa are using it as a means to push a lynch through...

if they were citizen they would retract and let the us be confirmed town.

There is no towny motive in holding a doc claim as citizen right now,

yes, if scorpio and wabbit were both claiming docs, and Exa claimed cit, i would be saying there is scum in Scorpio/wabbit

ejjinami wrote:Fck, i should really stop posting reads before fully catching up DX
I partially take back the previous read
Eragon did make a read out of it after all :/
I still don't like the tone of the previous posts and the read isn't that great either, but my arguments are kinda invalid


Truth to be said, I'd like to hear why did exa claim cop though
So answering the read would be appreciated

ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:

UzayAltay wrote:

ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Because I was hoping Mafia would still take the risk. I had to guve some explanation for why I claimed d1.

I think We are speaking about different posts .
I was speaking about This :

"
Because spice. Am I lying? Am I telling the truth? Will scum kill me tonight? Will they try and discover that I've been healed? Will Sherrif check me? Who knows? Definitely not the mafia. "

Yes. People were asking me why I claimed. I had to give some reason. So I gave this and hoped mafia would take the chace anyways.

ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Because I was hoping Mafia would still take the risk. I had to guve some explanation for why I claimed d1.

Eragon1329 wrote:

TheWabbit wrote:I'm ignoring whatever the fuck NotExacerbated has thrown against you, Eragon. The reason I think you're the scum (discounting Scorpio, but I'm not done with their scumfuckery) is that you've made too many errors in judgement that your plans no longer make sense in Town PoV.

There is no incentive in trying to heal Scorpio.
If they were a doctor you just ensured 1/2 of the heals WILL NOT go through.
If they were to be attacked (not!Doc, but Town) there will be no evidence to prove that Scorpio was indeed attacked that night, therefore you cannot prove them Town.

Your first posts in D1 about Doctor strategy already ensured everyone that you KNOW what the setup is and how it works. What you're claiming now is that you're throwing everything under the bus to try and make an idiot move.

Why haven't you thought of scum!Scorpio? They attempted to get a D1 pass by lazily claiming Doctor. They've refused to add onto the discussion despite the claim, and has already made poor word choices that makes their play highly suspect.

This is literally one error of judgement.

I suppose I didn't realize the fact that there would only be a 50% chance that they were confirmed town, yes, I did know the game was feedbackless after like half-way through day 1, but I had assumed I'd know I had stopped the kill because... I mean, there wouldn't be a kill.

I understood how the setup works, I knew docs are macho, I know they make cops macho, we went over all of that D1. I felt that Scorpio was NOT doctor, and that he was claiming for distraction. I feel as scum, instead of putting himself out there with a Wolfe doc claim, he would have tried to deflect the lynch onto another person, without putting himself in a claim. Plus the WIFOM posts, while kinda disgusting, I can see Town motivation for playing on doubts.

I did think of Scum!scorpio, but if you want to consider their claim a pass through D1, why isn't Notexa's claim a pass to get through D1? They got a free D1, the cop died, and now they are claiming doc as well.