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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

Jalandh wrote:
RAmcius wrote:
BasicFourLife wrote:@ram

1 v 1 trades always favor town, scum cant cc like that putting them in a TvS scenario


no, it's 3 town for 1 scum - 1 mislynch and 2 nk + you get rid of PR, which is good, when town have only few of them


3 Specific slots, 1 RT slot

Town1 claims bodyguard, Town 2 claims Sheriff, town 3 claims Escort, Town 4 claims Transporter

Scum1 claims Investigator, Scum2 claims Escort, Scum3 claims Cit

Town1 is confirmed town, Town4 can easily confirm themselves, town4 should move Town2 and Town1 should vest

Scum has to kill Town 3 or 4, leaving town with another confirm on which they dont kill as Town 3 should have announced who they are rbing

Scum2 autolynched, Town2 going into looking for the mafia in the cit claims

Town2 cant be killed at this point without outting scum1 as scum so Town4 moves Town1 and town1 protects town4, leaving 2 PRS scum cant safely kill.

Scum now have to kill within the Cit claims, where their last and safest member is hiding

Transporter ain't in NFM.
by BasicFourLife
Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:58 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

@ram

1 v 1 trades always favor town, scum cant cc like that putting them in a TvS scenario
by BasicFourLife
Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:34 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

by putting so many limitations on PRs, ur forcing all Mafia to claim Citizen
by BasicFourLife
Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:05 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

RAmcius wrote:Hm, TK is bad in general for small games, 1 dead PR or 1 dead scum from small scum team can win/lose game on the spot. Next is TPs - you should never put more than 1 in small game, so it should look like

TI
TP
TS
TI/TS/cit

>Confirmed Town Support

explain why
by BasicFourLife
Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:42 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

NightTerror86 wrote:TI
TP
RT
RT
Cit
Cit
Cit
Cit

GF
RM

Traitor

Guaranteed TK is bad even in the already existing role list, even if you keep it at 13p the guaranteed TK should go imo

Non-Guaranteed Town Killing slot is even worse, because it brings heavy swing to the game whether a powerful role exists or not. 3 mis lynches is kind of necessary for Town, reducing the playerlist to 11p isn’t the way to go imo.
by BasicFourLife
Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:07 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

JulianDeBeste wrote:I'm probably very bad at making a rolelist, but this would seem fun tbh:
Town Investigative
Town Investigative
Town Killing
Town Protective
Random Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Godfather
Random Mafia
Neutral Evil

>8v4

Wtf
by BasicFourLife
Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:28 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

The amount of Town PRs isn’t the problem. It’s the fact how strong some of them are.
by BasicFourLife
Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:26 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

RAmcius wrote:TIs are rubish in general, but how people would find scum without them? :Thonk:

I wonder, but this is NFM and not Vanilla so yeah
by BasicFourLife
Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:52 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

Varanus wrote:Also lookout is rubbish

And then there’s one
by BasicFourLife
Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:46 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

Varanus wrote:Parity Cop is purely weaker than Sheriff
That's a no from me dog

Would it be acceptable to only have 2 TIs in NFMs then?
by BasicFourLife
Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:44 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

Capo is shit in 3 player games. The reason Town is winning so much is because of bad players mostly but it has something to do with role balance.

Implement 16B Marshal and Prankster buffs.
Remove Disguiser and implement reworked Framer which effects all TIs.
Possible change, give GF a 2 shot Ninja ability so it has a way of dealing with all TIs and not being shit in Lookout games.
Remove Investigator and add Parity Cop.
Remove Town Support.
by BasicFourLife
Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:37 pm
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

#RemoveTownSupport
by BasicFourLife
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:28 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

Chemist1422 wrote:I really had no other options after we killed a TI N1 and I found the other, if I had claimed invest I would have had to put Fox as second TI

Why did you claim TI even in the first place? A Town Protective or -Support claim could’ve worked out better. Heck, all 3 Mafia members should’ve claimed Citizen.
by BasicFourLife
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:00 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

Dash2 wrote:holy fuck you're bad

if you paid attention you would know we literally had a plan going on to solve the game. Part of that plan included confirming me as town by using the TI and escort slots

No but then the checks on Over wouldn’t have had happened
by BasicFourLife
Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:39 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

Dash2 wrote:
BasicFourLife wrote:How? Your lynch was necessary in order to game solve.

no it fucking wasn't were you paying attention at all

Your slot was scummy af and you had nothing supportig u.
by BasicFourLife
Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:54 am
 
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Dash2 wrote:Endgame rant.

Firstly, First you did a great job considering you're a newbie. I appreciate your efforts and hope you keep playing.

Eragon your methods to lynch chubby were fucking terrible and I'm reporting you for gamethrowing

Basic holy fuck you sincerely pissed me off this game. I'm not gonna get started on this

Overall this game sincerely pissed me off because it was the experienced players that did a shitty job

How? Your lynch was necessary in order to game solve.
by BasicFourLife
Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:50 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

Jalandh wrote:
BasicFourLife wrote:Ayyy

I poe’d the fuck out of this game and made scum conceal
Actually you shooting the tp was the reason we were even in a good spot before First saved the town with godly roleblocks

If I had to say one thing, fucking respect hammers. Are you suppose to talk in twilight? No. So don't. I hammered there to stop the planning and what does town do? Fucking make a plan in twilight, it pissed me off to no end lol

I didnt shoot the TP, my slot did
by BasicFourLife
Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:49 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60 | Game Over | Town Wins

Ayyy

I poe’d the fuck out of this game and made scum conceal
by BasicFourLife
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:18 pm
 
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@first

Know its too early for plans, but just want to tell u that u should Block Over tonight. If no kill, we get +1 mis lynch allowing us to lynch both Chubby and Over for ez win
by BasicFourLife
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:52 pm
 
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BasicFourLife wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:Tbph im slightly inclined to trust chubby becuase if he was going for the mislynch he’d just say I’m not citizen.

It’s literaly as easy as that for his win if he’s scum

Unless he thought people would defend me over 0verki11??

Which is ???

So it’s a possiblity but I’m *inclined* to *possibly* believe chubby more

Confirmef Scum Lynch > Possible Scum Lynch

Oh u already on jala so thats good
by BasicFourLife
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:51 pm
 
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Eragon1329 wrote:Tbph im slightly inclined to trust chubby becuase if he was going for the mislynch he’d just say I’m not citizen.

It’s literaly as easy as that for his win if he’s scum

Unless he thought people would defend me over 0verki11??

Which is ???

So it’s a possiblity but I’m *inclined* to *possibly* believe chubby more

Confirmef Scum Lynch > Possible Scum Lynch
by BasicFourLife
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:50 pm
 
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Jalandh scum claimed by voting Over

Since there is a confirmed Scum between Himself/Chubby, logically he would push for a confirmed Scum lynch.
by BasicFourLife
Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:33 pm
 
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Yeah we’re lynching Jalandh

/vote Jalandh

No one vote Over anymore, we are not trusting Chubby with a likely Scum when we have a confirmef Scum on the table
by BasicFourLife
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:49 pm
 
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if anyone disagrees with my logic that Jalandh is mechanically lock GF, then speak up
by BasicFourLife
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:35 am
 
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Re: [Newcomer FM] NFM60

I was gonna no lynch but we have a confirmed Scum outed soooooo

/vote unvote
by BasicFourLife
Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:24 am
 
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