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Rickdaily12 wrote:First of all, I will confirm that my sinister presence is disruptive, and I won't confirm to what extent.

Rick, it's the extent that we need to know in order to extrapolate cause and effect in what actually happened that night. Lynching you will have no bearing on you as a person, or your gameplay, but solely in order to cross off possibilities on the chalkboard. We could still mislynch sure, but your lynch will narrow down options hopefully.

Honestly, it doesn't bother me any who we lynch, because either way I'm dead tonight unless Mafia is sniped.

No.
A: naru didn't get blocked.
B: poison blocked naru, but hit met instead.

Jerme wrote:This can give some info, by whom the people want to have modkilled.
SInce its either Met or me, I don't mind either of us two to be killed, as either the last mafia (met) is hit, or town has enough info to lynch the remaining Mafia, when I get modkilled.

Why would you get modkilled?

Jerme wrote:If someone could get modkilled today, who would you like it to be?

What relevance does this have? (me)

Arcthurus wrote:What do you think Jerme's role is?

Meh, I think your the scummier of the two, Met. Tired of this game anyway. If you flip town, so be it.

Arcthurus wrote:/vote rickdaily12

please kill me in the night, thanks

unvote ya tit, I wanted to see how the two reacted to lynching the witch. You made that quite difficult -_-

/vote Metrion

Metrion wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:If he's mafia then half the mafia is night immune. Ender the gf was immune too. This is a swords game and all but thats just silly.

To be completely fair there's 3+ guiltless vigilante shots in the game.

So you'd be on board for lynching Rick?

What about you Jerme? ... Veeena? (I already know Arc's answer)

Metrion wrote:backed out if she had posted more but that isn't applicable since she had results on her

But you did back out of Mel's vote?

Metrion wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:If he's mafia then half the mafia is night immune. Ender the gf was immune too. This is a swords game and all but thats just silly.

To be completely fair there's 3+ guiltless vigilante shots in the game.

This is what I was thinking. Plus Rock had the ability to steal a reload from me if he happened to do that. That would make 4 town-sided shots.

Where the heck everyone

Veeena, Jerme, Met... inputs please.

Arcthurus wrote:What does that really achieve? There's no world where he is mafia aside from the world where the fourth mafia is randomly night immune.

What definitive proof that he isn't mafia though? All I see is Rock's speculation that he "has to be witch" - based on what ? What if his Witch claim is a ploy to stay alive? I can't imagine a scenario where Witch would dispute Rick's because both are same team.

Arc pls, you're the one who likes to entertain these wild and outlandish scenarios xD what gives?

I don't think Rick would risk putting the escort on the mafia that would prevent an attack, and his own win. He'd put it either on any of us confirmed townies, or on himself. He wouldn't RB Jerme or Met in my eyes, as either could be Mafia. Currently the way I see it, Met is saying he was roleblocked before Rick could say anything so Rick knows who the Mafia is. But I'm too unsure about it.

What do you guys think about lynching Rick today?

Arcthurus wrote:Because Rick is witch, and Ender flipped as the detection immune Mafia Head.

Remember, Rock said Veena and I were of the same alignment.

Ah right. I do remember I planned on checking his ISO on who was his parity checks. Got distracted and forgot though and ended up just posting what I had.

So...
Rick - Witch
Arc - Cit
Veeena - Cit (why the hard push on Nhero, i still don't get this grr)
Me - Vig/Cit
Metrion - ???
Jerme - ???

I DON'T LIKE THIS COIN FLIP ANYMORE. This decides the game

Okay, so the problem here is that Jerme has consistently been voting with Town with one exception where he gave notice he'd be gone for the rest of said day. I can't imagine him being part of the Mafia unless he was hugging extremely close to the border of gamethrowing. I admit, his responses and his quick voting/sheeping seemed quite scummy, but he was following along even against Mafia votes which I wouldn't think someone who was aware of whom the mafia was would follow so blindly.

And yet at the same time, Metrion readily voted up as one of the first votes on both Lexiam and Melanora (albeit he revoked his vote early when Mel's lynch started getting steam for some reason).

Veeena is demonstratively clear in my eyes based on the "Oh Rick is witch? Yeah, fuck that guy!" vote yesterday lol.

Can someone (who isn't Arc), tell me why Arc is being town read? Look at ender/arc vote history. With exception of Lexiam, they tandem voted often. (this could be ender sheeping vote, but still). Yesterday's analysis of Rick/Rock made little sense. I feel like I'm missing why Arc was a town read.

Man ender was a good mafia except for his blunder yesterday. I can't really discern anything from his voting patterns. Bummer. I'm surprised he stuck his neck out for which when he was was one of the higher town reads. Odd. Still not happy how his lynched came to pass though

Sword don't give me false emails

Once Olberic dies, this weapon may be picked up and equipped by any member of the Cult of Galdera.

Poison was a useless kill anyway since last Mafia is RB immune

/unvote I need time to think, fuck it.

Appendix, just clarified with hosts: Escort can indeed stop mafia kill with 2 mafia left, as long as the person who was chosen in the mafia to do the killing is the one roleblocked (so there's no GF/Mafioso kill switching when roleblocked like in TOS). What the actual fuck. Now the Rick lynch sounds like the way better choice again so Poison can attempt to stop tonights Mafia Kill. GODDAMIT. IDK WHAT TO DO

Rickdaily12 wrote:But second of all, most importantly, if I did know what you were talking about, I don't know why you would think I would share any information about any modified abilities I may or may not have when answering unprompted questions benefits me in no way whatsoever.

Hey now, it was worth a shot since you are a ded guy anyway

But your answer pretty much helped me anyway, so ty. I wrote down what I would have said being asked the same question as Witch with said ability, and you pretty much regurgitated it. Perhaps I'm just being a dumbass again, but hey, as I said, I'm going back to my gut.

That said, I was trying to place ender's sinister message n2 (or n3, forget now). Either he is actually town, and was the sinister target from Mafia, or he's Mafia, and he was the sinister target of Witch. There is, of course, the option of him being Town with the sinister target of Witch, but hey - he's a guaranteed lynch as well so there's no point thinking about that. If he is town, then we lose anyway.

I wanted to see what Rick said before I switched my vote back to ender. If we are going to possibly mislynch ender (it's going to either happen today or tomorrow regardless), I'd rather know about it today than just delay the inevitable and waste time for everyone.
A: With Naru's TP flip making ender's TP claim extremely flimsy,
B: as well as ObiWan's roleblock N3 when there was no way he could have been attacked to even get roleblocked,
C: especially confirming that Poison was on someone else entirely that evening...
I severely doubt ender is a protective RB'er. As stated before, he's probably the Mafia roleblocker (or Prankster, I think it was called), or some variance in-thereof. Plus the fact that he claimed a protective role, and didn't even attempt to say who his targets were every night... this doesn't scream legitimate "townie" to me.

/vote enderitem

gahhhhhhhhhhhh I keep second guessing myself. The exact opposite of what I said I could not do way back on like day 2. The longer things occur, the more I second guess myself, even though the first impression is generally the right one.
No matter what happens today, whether we lynch Rick or ender, either Poison or I will die tonight. Probably me due to the fact that Poison is pretty inactive and much more confused about things (I mean, she's still thinking I could be scum... lol).
Poison is pretty much a glorified cit at this point, much as am I. If we lynch Rick, she can't be controlled anymore, but there's two mafia so the RB doesn't matter. If we lynch mafia, Witch will live and force her to RB witchself again.

And Poison, I know I am flip-flopping, but I give my reasons every time I flipped my votes. And yes, I could flip at any point again lol, but I'll still provide my reasonings as to why.

Also, /unvote. I want to see more from Veeena, as he pushed Nhero hard and then proceeded to disappear which is silly. What did you have on Nhero in the first place that made you convinced they were scum? I don't think you ever fully explained that train of thought.

As I said, I keep second-guessing myself and both times it ended up hurting town. This probably stems from my being convinced Nelly was evil, and since then it's ruined my confidence in my reads. I'll have to try and go back to my gut for today, as chances are I'm the death tonight.

That said, before I die... I'd like to ask: Rick, can you explain to me your sinister presence, I'm sincerely curious about that ability of yours and if I was right in which is makes someone "tank" an ability.

Yeah okay. There's no way ender saved ObiWan n2 because obi said he was blocked. Ender is probably the mafia role that did the RB.

@Poison, who did you block every night. Just to re-confirm things.

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