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enderitem wrote:Can we eternally block Nhero while we lynch our leads?

If you want to eternally block a cit sure.
Keep in mind witch will get to make tp shoot someone though.

Veeena wrote:
RockFire wrote:So Arc, you think Max and Nhero are just distancing and have been doing so since yesterday because Mela was called out by Rick? I'm going to go back and check to see their thoughts on D2 actually.

Max, what is even your plan because what you're doing doesn't make sense at all.

1. I am lynched, shown as citizen, associations confirm Lily as scum.
2. Lily is lynched the next day.

A 1 to 1 tradeoff to remove scum.

Ok so what happens when I flip town.
Not if, when.

Maybe im just bad or frustrated or something but I don't know what I can say or do to convince you all I'm town, but I am.
Watching this day go "ok lynch town because nobody's willing to try and investigate the other scumread" is not fun and incredibly taxing on me mentally.

At this point all I have to say because I don't think I can convince you all at this point is that Poison has yet to post. Maybe im just hopeful something will be there so make what you will of it. You've seen my thoughts on Veeena.

I'm gonna be afk for a bit. Need to calm down.

At this point the one thing I can say is that you all should really wait for all the night results before coming with plans.
Ender, Poison, Naru, Jerme, and Met are the people you're waiting on, since Arckas is gagged.

RockFire wrote:And I apologize Nhero but I don't know what is correct to say so sorry.

I get it's nothing personal but I'm just also really frustrated with Veeena's play.
Even if im spouting bullshit about the RB thing earlier because im so worked up (Although this is mostly because she's still not saying anything when she said she would today) and just not thinking straight that doesn't mean that her play still hasn't had me giving her the highest scumread almost all game.

aaanywayyaysy
completely unprovable citizen claim
yknow
the hardest role to use to actually defend yourself because it's such easy claim space for scum

RockFire wrote: the Escort RBed Nhero then he's

:angrybork:

RockFire wrote:Also, I think we can PoE solve this game today from just the info we have now if I'm right about everything.

Well if you lynch me today you have to PoE solve tomorrow.
I can claim if you want even though it's completely unprovable minus having a TI check it.

TurdPile wrote:
NheroArconix wrote:Oh boy, I fell into your master plan of frame me as scum by roleblocking me and not killing.

Oh. Ohhhhhhhh. Yeah, the escort has already been confirmed a while ago, especially after Lexiam died.

Yknow I feel dumb since I forgot about that.
I did say I was getting frustrated.

Veeena wrote:I don't. You literally gave me everything i needed. You did exactly what was needed and I applaud you for making this game much easier than it should be.

/vote NheroArconix

Oh boy, I fell into your master plan of frame me as scum by roleblocking me and not killing.
I mean, I've been a scumread by some players since early on so you're gonna pick an easy target, press them, then never say anything to get me more and more frustrated.
I don't know if you're aware, but you're being scumread by multiple players as well. If your'e actually town I'd expect you to have said something by now.

Arcthurus wrote:You killed Nelly but didn't lose your bullets or commit suicide? First time seeing a no trade-off vig in a standard-ish game, but I believe you.

Pretty sure we just auto-win...

I imagine he's unable to actually shoot anyone outside of being controlled.

I was roleblocked.

Obi's behavior makes a bunch more sense now.

/vote Veeena
You have some explaining to do.

Popping in for a minute to post this real quick:

PoisonMaid wrote:Again I state, maybe we should try to plan out what roles should do what tonight. Or give opinions on it.

We talked about what happens when we have roles give out night plans yesterday.
We give the mafia free information to work around and we're still not sure about prankster. Witch exists.
We had a multiple-page debate over the whole escort/consort/"roleblock these people" thing and then agreed it was a bad idea.
There's not much to plan around anyways. Rick is showing no interest in sharing his night plans today. Escort is still unknown. Vigi already shot and missed.

ObiWan wrote:If Nhero wants to grill Veeena, I'm fine with that.
But since Nhero voted, I'm assuming they aren't wanting to today?

Rickdaily12 wrote:and Nhero x Veeena didn't look finished to me, just for starters.

Oh believe me I want to continue this but she clearly has no interest in it. The fact that she's delaying it just makes her seem scummier to me.

NheroArconix wrote:First thing I'm doing tomorrow is pressing more on Veeena since she really seems to not want to just talk about it now for some reason, unless im dead or something more pressing comes up.
Seriously don't understand a reason to delay it at this point with someone else already being lynched unless you're lying about being cit and have a night action that's relevant somehow.

Veeena wrote:You answered exactly what I needed. Good. We will continue this tomorrow

Already grilled her for this to no reply. She posted (literally just voting mel) after the reply so she clearly saw it.
Her backing down with no comment other then "tomorrow lol fuck actually doing anything to even somewhat attempt to change the read" seriously does not help but I really don't expect anything out of her today anymore unless you all want to help me out with it.

/unvote for now just to make sure everyone's on the same page. Will be kinda busy for the next 7~ish hours and unless something's changed I'll revote after all that.

NheroArconix wrote:I'll vote mel later (probably like, 2am my time or something like that) in case someone has something to say still, but since nobody really wants to talk about stuff the lynch could happen before then anyways.

/unvote
/vote melanora

well we already assume she's scum but you get the idea it's more confirmed
sorry for triple post but this is fm I can't edit

ObiWan wrote:Think we are at 6/8

Also keep an eye out for a marionette vote here because if one doesn't happen or happens on someone else it's safe to assume mel's scum.

I'll vote mel later (probably like, 2am my time or something like that) in case someone has something to say still, but since nobody really wants to talk about stuff the lynch could happen before then anyways.

First thing I'm doing tomorrow is pressing more on Veeena since she really seems to not want to just talk about it now for some reason, unless im dead or something more pressing comes up.
Seriously don't understand a reason to delay it at this point with someone else already being lynched unless you're lying about being cit and have a night action that's relevant somehow.

Veeena wrote:You answered exactly what I needed. Good. We will continue this tomorrow

/unvote

And you didn't.

NheroArconix wrote:Actually talk and make a statement longer then 3 sentences today.

Why don't you elaborate now, or at the very least start talking more.
You're still avoiding responding to questions you're being directly given.

Metrion wrote:
Veeena wrote:
Metrion wrote:Theatre-ing of self sacrifice continues.

So M4x, your scum team is Mel, Nhero, Poison?

Don't test me bitch.

:WaitWhat:

Unvoting me when I come after you doesn't make you instantly not scum.
Unvoting me and saying "oh that's all I need" doesn't help your case at all either.
My read is unchanged until you start giving actually good posts.

While it's on my mind and since I just made a giant dump post going after a scumread, here's just general reads on everyone:
Spoiler:

side note: I feel like I post a lot better when it's night and things are quiet so I can compose my thoughts without worrying about new posts, so if I'm more quiet during the day I guess this is why? Not trying to make an excuse, but just something I noted about myself.

I was debating doing this with my last post and I talked myself into it.
/vote Veeena
Actually talk and make a statement longer then 3 sentences today.

I'm gonna be real here for a minute.
I keep looking at this thread, reading through it, seeing people argue, have no idea what to reply to the discussion with that isn't just piggybacking on someone else, getting a headache, being reminded that I'm seen as scum, starting a post then stopping it since I have no idea what to type, then getting off.

I do love the few posts I'm able to get out getting completely ignored.

NheroArconix wrote:You're gonna have to give me a bit on getting to reads but I'll try to have it out sometime tonight.

I keep being unable to type this because I'm shit at putting them into words but right now Veeena is straight-out scum to me. Maybe it's bias due to being attacked, but any response I have to the attacks gets ignored, but here's what has me thinking so:

They're getting ignored, because whenever I do die, which could happen faster, me flipping town is going to look really bad for them.

Veeena wrote:
Metrion wrote:Theatre-ing of self sacrifice continues.

So M4x, your scum team is Mel, Nhero, Poison?

Don't test me bitch.

This post somewhat helps prove the point that she's dodging questions.
>Direct question is asked
>Fluffs instead, doesn't even give a simple yes or no
?????

On top of all of this there's the completely random citizen claim that I don't trust at all.

The only thought she's had on mela/rick is "mela is neutral" and "we're missing a piece of the puzzle" with very little explanation.

She defended Lexiam multiple times D2, and was pushing that he was town.
Spoiler:
She said nothing after this, it was pages before the claim, and it feels like she's going "hey all look at me im voting the obvious person here don't look at me"

RockFire wrote:Meanwhile I want to hear stuff out of Nhero and Posion besides just floating around because I'd rather we not stagnate just because we have someone claim TI with a result considering complacency is an insidious killer which includes a full read list and your opinions on everything that's happened so far in terms of Rick's claim and Mel's reactions.

You're gonna have to give me a bit on getting to reads but I'll try to have it out sometime tonight.
As for the latter:

Rick's claim feels like it's coming out far too early in the day but feels like it could be true. I can't say I trust rick too much on it with how little he's said since then, but I'll reserve judgement. I mentioned it earlier, but I have a lot of issues with reading him. Mel's reactions don't really help because while I understand she's busy, posting thoughts from 15+ pages in the past feels like she's trying to fluff out something to save face.
She does bring up a fair point here:

melanora wrote:I would love Rick to explain why the fuck eh checked me and Ender when he literally said he thought we were both town, and then said he thought Ender was scummy, and now says that I'm the obvious scum.

Inconsistencies are pretty clear and need to be explored a bit, but calling ender the town candidate here makes more sense given how the two have been playing.
I'm gonna hold a vote until later for the reason I mentioned in my last post.

Veeena wrote:I still want Nhero to respond to my vote on her.

You could start by giving me any direction on how to respond to the vote with.

Veeena wrote:/vote Nhero

Sticking with this for now.

This was how you voted for me. Nobody else talked about it.
What do you want me to do here? Defend myself from a random vote with seemingly little reason and no traction from any other player?
You voted me at the start of the day, and dropped the issue until now.

NheroArconix wrote:Sorry for missing the lynch, I looked at the posts before going to bed, thought "I'll just wait til morning to make sure everyone's on the same page of who to lynch," went to bed and overslept and missed day end by like 7 minutes.
Hated myself a ton after that one.

This still holds true. I'm aware not voting is scummy, but I'd rather not have my vote cause an accidental hammer while I was asleep since discussion and voting was likely going to ramp up in the morning in the hours leading up to the lynch.

melanora wrote:town reading nhero for this post

as much as I appreciate being townread feels like you're trying to drag me down with you since this was so many posts ago
esp since people are scumreading me right now, which shouldn't be hard to tell even if you're in the proccess of catching up given you're clearly aware you're under fire as a lynch target atm.

TurdPile wrote:
Metrion wrote:Two roleblocks probably means mafioso.

Hey Met, can you explain this logic to an idiot?

I had to look this up too.
Turns out in FM Mafioso can copy any other mafia member's ability (live or dead) rather then just being sent to kill for a godfather.
Someone tell me if I'm misinterpreting the rolecard.

TurdPile wrote::Hide:

Care to elaborate on what the hell this means?
Did you sleep peacefully or not?

ObiWan wrote:I was roleblocked

RockFire wrote:In other news, I was RBed. I have several theories but we wait for night check in.

Oh boy here we go again.

Slept Peacefully.

Kinda-sorta super distracted by monster hunter world atm so give me a bit and I'll type out a better post.

Sorry for missing the lynch, I looked at the posts before going to bed, thought "I'll just wait til morning to make sure everyone's on the same page of who to lynch," went to bed and overslept and missed day end by like 7 minutes.
Hated myself a ton after that one.

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