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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 7 | Final Stairway

Rickdaily12 wrote:First of all, I will confirm that my sinister presence is disruptive, and I won't confirm to what extent.


You over extended, Rick. You don't have any credibility to make any claim about what your role will tell us, you're scum.

Arcthurus wrote:Fine then.

/vote Metrion


Yikes.
by Metrion
Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:21 pm
 
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 7 | Final Stairway

That's a redirector/deflector not a reverse lightning rod.That would be HIGHLY BALONCED and be a Mafia Head in a setup with 3+ vigi shots.

My point is that Mela is not the buffed Hustler inferring that BMer is in the game in some capacity.
by Metrion
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:47 pm
 
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Arcthurus wrote:Whats rng about it???

You're redirecting people from you to other people randomly? What about that is okay? What about that is not Mafia Head for that matter?

Also new Hustler is BMer plus Hustler btw.
by Metrion
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:17 pm
 
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Arcthurus wrote:Whats outlandish of reverse lightning rod? It's literally just an Iron Tager that works the other way around.


Metrion wrote:100% RNG 

Cmonbruh.


Rick, you can't say lynching you wont tell us anything then literally in your next post say the you wont tell us how your mechanics work. That's doublethink if you expect us to believe that.
by Metrion
Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:11 pm
 
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 7 | Final Stairway

Veeena wrote:/vote Rickdaily12

Arc, what is the actual possibility that Met/Jerme is actually citizen vs witch, and Rick is red claiming witch to stay alive, knowing we would rather want to take out red before witch.


Rick would have to be pretty godly and he'd be a mafia doc or something crazy. I'd like to lynch him today to get more information flipped.
by Metrion
Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:41 pm
 
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Re: 8M | OCTOPATH | Day 7 | Final Stairway

Arcthurus wrote:
Metrion wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:I'm not really seeing the purpose of a Naru<->Met switch from Jerme's scum PoV; it doesn't accomplish anything against investigatives and obviously attacking either target wasn't the plan so getting around protectives is also out of the question, that leaves only harmful actions (roleblocks, vig shots) as the gist of what the action could've been playing for, but why would you direct those away from someone who's softclaimed a PR? You'd want that to disrupt him.

Occam's razor tells me that action was Met as a scum trying to get those actions away from himself to a different target. Wether or not that also means targeting naru would've redirected to him I don't know. Repealing sounds simpler though.

The sinister presence is Rick, I think and thus unrelated. Ender was mafia, possibly controlled N1, and he said feeling a sinister presence N2. Naru was controlled N2 and said he felt the presence N4. Really if you two don't feel confident about my logic here we can lynch Rick to confirm it though.


What if it is investigating like I mentioned? If you're searching for motivation from an action that isn't understood then I'm not sure how you form an accurate PoV?

If I was a scum redirecter then that means Ender was killing and no one died even though the Doc was blocked. So he had to have hit Rick but if Rick is a Witch then that means he would have died thanks to Rock's shot. So I can't be scum with that line of thinking, Arc. It also means I redirected from myself to Naru which is really weird as I'd probably be trying to either fuck with Rick's results if I wasn't aware he was Witch, or change the roleblock target in which case I'd be targeting Ender or someone like Veeena or Jerme from my scum PoV to Naru.


Jerme wrote:Maybe because there was already a roleblock claim (and the sinister presence afaik), so there could be build a "story" around Narus roleblock being forwarded to him from its original target (Metrion). Since Met had towncred that time, his claim of having slept peacefully would not be doubted with the given context.


I would have done the sacrifical play then instead of Ender if I was blocked. It makes no sense that out of Ender and I as a scum team in this scenario as he would be the deeper wolf and we both haven't claimed up to that point.


I can't see it being both an investigative and a redirector though, that's two roles in one basically.

Rick might have full immunity honestly and I don't actually doubt him about his buffer thing whatever it is, which is why maybe we can actually clear that up by lynching him first.

And when I say you as scum redirector I actually mean a reverse lightning rod. Meaning you'd repel away from you, not like a transporter who can choose any two targets.


Literally changed Hustler is both Investigative and Disruption/Utility. Even prior to that Blackmailer had two abilities, Agent also has two abilities. If you think the presence is from Rick then that means he has two abilities. I'm not sure what is outlandish about that?

Reverse lightning rod would be 100% RNG and no mod would ever put that into a game, dude. That is outlandish.


I'm fine with lynching Rick if we want to clear these things up.

Arcthurus wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:Why do you think there was no kill in both N3 and N4, Met?
Ender obviously could've been roleblocking both nights but he didn't apparently.


Question goes to everyone actually


Night 3 was cross kill on the Innocent child I was skeptical at first about this but it makes the most sense. Night 4 was either they hit the Witch (which I think is unlikely because Rick would have to have perma-immunity) or they might have tried to do some big play considering there was no kill the previous night and not killing wouldn't have affected their win window.
by Metrion
Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:40 pm
 
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Arcthurus wrote:I'm not really seeing the purpose of a Naru<->Met switch from Jerme's scum PoV; it doesn't accomplish anything against investigatives and obviously attacking either target wasn't the plan so getting around protectives is also out of the question, that leaves only harmful actions (roleblocks, vig shots) as the gist of what the action could've been playing for, but why would you direct those away from someone who's softclaimed a PR? You'd want that to disrupt him.

Occam's razor tells me that action was Met as a scum trying to get those actions away from himself to a different target. Wether or not that also means targeting naru would've redirected to him I don't know. Repealing sounds simpler though.

The sinister presence is Rick, I think and thus unrelated. Ender was mafia, possibly controlled N1, and he said feeling a sinister presence N2. Naru was controlled N2 and said he felt the presence N4. Really if you two don't feel confident about my logic here we can lynch Rick to confirm it though.


What if it is investigating like I mentioned? If you're searching for motivation from an action that isn't understood then I'm not sure how you form an accurate PoV?

If I was a scum redirecter then that means Ender was killing and no one died even though the Doc was blocked. So he had to have hit Rick but if Rick is a Witch then that means he would have died thanks to Rock's shot. So I can't be scum with that line of thinking, Arc. It also means I redirected from myself to Naru which is really weird as I'd probably be trying to either fuck with Rick's results if I wasn't aware he was Witch, or change the roleblock target in which case I'd be targeting Ender or someone like Veeena or Jerme from my scum PoV to Naru.


Jerme wrote:Maybe because there was already a roleblock claim (and the sinister presence afaik), so there could be build a "story" around Narus roleblock being forwarded to him from its original target (Metrion). Since Met had towncred that time, his claim of having slept peacefully would not be doubted with the given context.


I would have done the sacrifical play then instead of Ender if I was blocked. It makes no sense that out of Ender and I as a scum team in this scenario as he would be the deeper wolf and we both haven't claimed up to that point.
by Metrion
Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:41 am
 
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You're implying there is a decision, but there isn't because there would be 2 "lynches" and there's only two candidates. What other purpose would your post have, why would you ask a question about a decision with only one choice?
by Metrion
Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:24 am
 
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Why are you implying that scum is not one of us if that's what you mean btw? Image
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Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:48 am
 
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by Metrion
Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:46 am
 
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Metrion wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:Well no one's claiming that so it would have to be Jerme as well.


Why would someone claim a role that gives a sinister presence? It's most likely Jerme and it's linked to the ability which means Ender had to of done the kill that night.

Well tried anyway.
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Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:39 pm
 
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Arcthurus wrote:Well no one's claiming that so it would have to be Jerme as well.


Why would someone claim a role that gives a sinister presence? It's most likely Jerme and it's linked to the ability which means Ender had to of done the kill that night.
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Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:39 pm
 
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Arcthurus wrote:But then how did he survive? There was no tprot that could've saved him and he was blocked so its not like he could've self healed either.


Maybe that has to do with the presence that he felt.
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Mon Sep 03, 2018 9:33 pm
 
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There was no kill? We don't know for sure.
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Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:21 pm
 
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Arcthurus wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:And what was his goal with targeting you and naru N4? Recall Poison targeted you but hit Naru.


Concretely, he has to be a one way transporter due to that. On the hands of the mafia.
The outed PRs at the time were Rock (only the cops claimed), Poison, TP.

Metrion wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:And what was his goal with targeting you and naru N4? Recall Poison targeted you but hit Naru.


I imagine they were using it for information if it was like a blackmailer, and perhaps they were trying to also mess with any protective role that would have been on Naru.


But if that was the plan wouldn't they have attacked Naru, or rather you as to hit him?


Could be a sort of action swapping instead.

I imagine that was the case. Not sure how that's a but.
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Arcthurus wrote:And what was his goal with targeting you and naru N4? Recall Poison targeted you but hit Naru.


I imagine they were using it for information if it was like a blackmailer, and perhaps they were trying to also mess with any protective role that would have been on Naru.
by Metrion
Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:50 pm
 
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Arcthurus wrote:That blue makes you look fat, met


No need to be toxic, sir. :)
by Metrion
Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:09 pm
 
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It would have to be something worth using. It's most likely a Sword's role and something that that influences visits or perhaps an information based role since that's the only thing that hasn't flipped. Perhaps some weird Blackmailer concept considering Hustler didn't have it .
by Metrion
Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:09 pm
 
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TurdPile voting because he doesn't want to play anymore, Veeena voting for me despite their logic saying I'm town. Jerme, Lexiam and Mel all getting ultra carried by Ender and Rick. Real fun game.
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Arcthurus wrote::MonkaS:

Really makes you think, huh Arc?
by Metrion
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Oh rip that was Veeena and we wont see them again for 28 hours.
by Metrion
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Veeena wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:To add to what you're saying about Met, if you recall his votes were "Yeah I'll vote this person since they're being useless right now" which is a great stance to take because either that partner gets lynched for being useless (both lex and mel cases) or they post enough stuff to stop the wagon and then they're not getting lynched anyway.

I also think Rick witched poison to himself so the mafia could claim roleblocked. What do you think Rick did last night, TP? (And Veena you can answer too)

Jerme/Metrion were witched to Poison 100%. It is the only sensible kill and witch-move that you can do (this at the moment, there are citizens and TP who is now a confirmed citizen with the shots gone).

With that:

/vote Metrion


You do realise, if you believe what you just said. I'm town right? Because I was roleblocked and couldn't of killed and Poison wouldn't block Rick.
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TurdPile wrote:Meh, I think your the scummier of the two, Met. Tired of this game anyway. If you flip town, so be it. :Shrug:


Fine, get this farce over with where you let Jerme win by doing absolutely nothing. If you want to read me for bullshit reasons them I can't do anything about it.
by Metrion
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Arcthurus wrote:what
by Metrion
Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:12 pm
 
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TurdPile wrote:
Arcthurus wrote:/vote rickdaily12

please kill me in the night, thanks


unvote ya tit, I wanted to see how the two reacted to lynching the witch. You made that quite difficult -_-

/vote Metrion

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