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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Not Entirely Awful | Maf

EvanManManMan wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:Why did kosmo claim lo btw? Was it an attempt to make the real one come out?

I really have no idea


She explained in mafia chat :


Postby kosmo16 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:17 am
You probably want to know why I claimed Lookout Day 1 :) So, I planned to do that before even game started as every role except for BD.

As Citizen I would do that to bait evils to attack me and to avoid lynch, because it is unlikely for evils to do that and real lookout to counterclaim.
As Lookout/Tracker I would make more doubtful claim so Mafia may not believe I am that stupid to claim Lookout as Lookout :)

I will convince people that it is the first option and Mafia was either afraid of BD or more likely didn't believe in my claim. Of course only if they ask, otherwise I will act like as I was the Lookout.
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:03 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Not Entirely Awful | Maf

ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Whew. You have no idea how nerve wracking that was from the sidelines. I thought for sure Evan's EOD had cost us the game. But somehow Wabbit became our MVP and carried us to a win.


+1 at that! I was praying Evan comes and hammer after Wabbit also placed his vote on Kyra :D
Good job guys, we managed to pull it off!
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:02 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

ejjinami wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:I’m tempted to do coinflip at this point

just vote evan. It is imposible for him to be town and people are conveniently not trying to read him


I read him - the thing that stroke me were his EoD reactions.
Plus town points for bringing up associations and answered questions addressed to him and not only, thing that I cannot say neither about Kira nor Crimson...
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:02 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Ejj - ok, u see Evan as scum and i understood ur reasoning more or less, how about Kira - what are her town motivations? I asked Crimson also to provide me from her ISO with 5 town oriented posts. And no, the hammering doesnt count since I strongly believe that was scum wanting to gain credit (and I am not the only one thinking so!)
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:42 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

I would say either Ejj or Evan since I don't see them being in a same team now.
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:39 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Multiuniverse wrote:No I need 3 people

3 definite people


Kyra + Crimson def
Can't put my finger on someone from those 4 now o_O
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:25 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Multiuniverse wrote:Claudia give me 3 people you think is the scumteam


Already answered this:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:claudia, who are your top 3 scum? leave out Wabbit and Multi. id say Rabbit is 99% confirmed and Multi is 100% confirmed


Kyra, Crimson for obvious reasons, Ejj/Evan/Wabbit/Eragon in this order.
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:14 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Crimson, for the 3rd time now, what are your reasons for town reading Kira so much?
You said you'll check again her ISO and revert with an answer.

Crimson97 wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:interesting fact : D3: Crimson was together with me in Kira's wagon but now defending her , Scorpio jumped that wagon right after , then they both left that wagon quickly...

That's because of her hammer. I don't see her flipping scum in any way and i'm not voting her anytime soon.

I think scum is using tosay to get towncred and cause a mislynch later on, that's why there's no counter wagon to Evan. Claudia and Eragon, if you're so sure that Kira is scum why isn't your vote on her?


I've been trying for 2 days now... I sincerely got tired of trying to explain everyone my reasonings why Kira is scum and no one listening... It wouldnt matter if I would vote, would it?!

Except for that hammering (that was for geting town credit), give me 5 good reads from her or show me town motivation in her posts...

If you truly think she's scum, push her. We're in MyLo and if you're town you should be pushing whoever you're the most certain will flip scum.
Tbh, her recent posts are very lacking, and i would probably be scum reading her is she hadn't hammered. The only town motivation i can think off the top of my head is her wanting to no lynch yesterday. I'll look through her ISO to see if i find more.


So? You haven't provided any so far but you still don't want her lynched. Why?
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:11 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Spoiler:
ejjinami wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:Evan is trying to convince ppl of his allignement after his EoD reactions. He brings on the table interesting associations(which I don't know if he would have had the motivation to get if ppl weren't pushing him cause of those reactions) ... I was town reading him cause his scum plays are more scum-inteligent and those reactions are the complete oposite...
As I see it now, that should be her main reason for townreading evan. That just sounds weird.
It might be me, but if she thinks evan is playing badly, wouldn't she be more likely to suspect, or at least try to get a bit more into reading him?

You didn't understand! I said if he is scum, he is playing bad cause he had good scum games so far, at least the ones I was on and differently played. and you townread him because of it. What makes you think he's not scum? What makes you think ANYTHING he did today is town motivated? god dammit, it's just pathetic
No, it's not. Look at the associations he came up with when his head was in stake.

Eragon hasn't read D1 and D2 and is making his choices based on the interactions from the moment he stepped in. And he says I am the one that doesn't write much, but at least I read every post from these 70 pages...

Crimson was one of my scum reads from D1 or D2 together with Kira.

Ejj is defending Kira quite a lot, together with Crimson... And even asking confirmation from him ...
ejjinami wrote:@crims then can you say what do you think about my read on scorp?

ejjinami wrote:hey @crims who do you wanna lynch among scorp/MM?
or do you perhaps prefer to cfd to poly/I/evan? That prob won't work out though.

...and I'm having a hard time thinking what is this read if not shade. Like, it looks like she didn't put too much thought into her read and just went with whatever fit to distract people form the lynch. -_- especially since the posts she quoted were my response to Crimson townreading scorpio. Like, lol.
I don't remember the context, but what I found interesting that amongst all the ppl townreading Scorpio, u asked his opinion, several times during the gameplay. I am just trying to understand connections between players.
I'll look more thoroughly when I get home...


Answers in green
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:57 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Crimson97 wrote:Multi, you shouldn't be sheeping Wabbit so much.
/Vote Evan


And you should be giving me those 5 reasons why you trust Kira is town.
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:51 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

xoKira wrote:2. ejjinami - voting evan
5. xoKira - voting evan
6. Eragon1329 - intent to vote me

8. ClaudiaM25 - intent to vote me

10. TheWabbit - intent to vote me

12. EvanManManMan - intent to vote me
13. Fenraiser Crimson97 - voting evan
14. Multiuniverse - voting evan

whichever one of the people that is voting me is town will probably be the one to lose us the game
I have already explained why evan is scum and why I'm town


No intent from my side, a clear vote for the past 2 days...
by ClaudiaM25
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:26 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

xoKira wrote:evan is clear scum and is only not getting lynched because he's good at wolf
eragon is new and doesnt know how to play wolf because he's badly failing at it
idk what wabbit is doing he knows better than this
claudia just doesnt like me I think


I already explained, I have nothing to you, I just strongly believe u are scum! Cause all the posts u have done so far this is what inspire me...
Plus the attitude you had didn't really helped me change my mind.
Also, about that angleshooting u said I was doing while saying u might not be newbie and u shutting me up - it's clearily you had something to hide...

I really have nothing against you, just the fact that you are scum in this game.
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:56 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Eragon1329 wrote:ok.
cool.
mine are basically the same

1.Kira
2.Crimson(if Kira flips scum)
3.ejj/evan
4.claudia


You're in my town read cause you said you are new to this and I know how first game is. What I apreciated at u were the fact that u posted what you think, you didn't quite read all the 70 pages since u came around then but still u managed to catch up and your attitude is ... like a new person should behave: not insulting anyone, asking for opinions, etc... Plus Kosmo's play helped in this decision also to be honest...
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:52 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 3 | Oh well)

Eragon1329 wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:ScorpioDiAngelo |5| Multiuniverse, ejjinami, TheWabbit, Crimson97, xoKira

this makes sense for crimson to be self-preserving and kira voting scorpio for townread


I have been stating this right from the begining of the next day!!!!

xoKira wrote:wabbit probably scum too tbh
still have faith in the people voting evan rn though


She's obviously scum reading anyone who contradicts her....

(LUL)

I agree with that. I call her scum, give reasons, and she says

"you are either scum or too dense to realize"
"I am green and you are Red"

this is just bad...


Plus the fact that she admits not even reading the thread!! I really don't like this, I mean ok, I haven't been active in writting either, but this is just my way of being, but I catch up you what you guys discuss and respond.
The only reason why Crimson is defending her that much would be if they are both scums.
I asked him to paste me 5 of Kira's post that were town oriented :
Crimson97 wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:interesting fact : D3: Crimson was together with me in Kira's wagon but now defending her , Scorpio jumped that wagon right after , then they both left that wagon quickly...

That's because of her hammer. I don't see her flipping scum in any way and i'm not voting her anytime soon.

I think scum is using tosay to get towncred and cause a mislynch later on, that's why there's no counter wagon to Evan. Claudia and Eragon, if you're so sure that Kira is scum why isn't your vote on her?


I've been trying for 2 days now... I sincerely got tired of trying to explain everyone my reasonings why Kira is scum and no one listening... It wouldnt matter if I would vote, would it?!

Except for that hammering (that was for geting town credit), give me 5 good reads from her or show me town motivation in her posts...

If you truly think she's scum, push her. We're in MyLo and if you're town you should be pushing whoever you're the most certain will flip scum.
Tbh, her recent posts are very lacking, and i would probably be scum reading her is she hadn't hammered. The only town motivation i can think off the top of my head is her wanting to no lynch yesterday. I'll look through her ISO to see if i find more.


No reply so far, but he is still townreading her! How?!
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:48 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Eragon1329 wrote:claudia, who are your top 3 scum? leave out Wabbit and Multi. id say Rabbit is 99% confirmed and Multi is 100% confirmed


Kyra, Crimson for obvious reasons, Ejj/Evan/Wabbit/Eragon in this order.
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:43 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Crimson97 wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:ditch and trying to save scum buddy Kira?

No scumbuddy would try to save her because of the way she's acting.

Then you should've told her to stop in the maf chat and be more active and contributive.

Eragon1329 wrote:Claudia what do you think of voting Kira?

right now I believe its

3 on Evan, ejji, Kira, and multi

and 2 on Kira. me and wabbit


I have been saying this for 2 days now and no one was listening!!!

/vote xoKyra
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:41 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 3 | Oh well)

TheWabbit wrote:ScorpioDiAngelo |5| Multiuniverse, ejjinami, TheWabbit, Crimson97, xoKira

this makes sense for crimson to be self-preserving and kira voting scorpio for townread


I have been stating this right from the begining of the next day!!!!

xoKira wrote:wabbit probably scum too tbh
still have faith in the people voting evan rn though


She's obviously scum reading anyone who contradicts her....
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:34 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Multiuniverse wrote:/vote evan

My mind can’t be changed

Your tone seems too soft for your Town meta

Meta worked for Scorpio so it gotta work........

I’ll be back in 6 hours.

Wabbit I need your guidance.


Evan is softer as town rather than as scum, I said it before I am saying it now - at least this is my conclusion coming after a couple of games with him, and believe me this is not an easy thing for me to say since he got me lynched one game being scum... This is one of the reasons i townread him, plus he was giving some good associations that I haven't realised... Need to think about it!
He started being more involved since his head is in stake now :D
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:29 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Eragon1329 wrote:I had it as a choice, but when multi said that Kira and crimson HAVE to be scum together if one is scum, and I believe Kira is scum 100%, meaning crimson is scum, and ejjinami isn’t up there anymore

Ejjinami is in the middle for me, but slightly, sligjtly less suspicious than you


Multi is confirmed town, but you don't have to trust anyone's judgements, make ur own.

The thing is that Crim has defended Kira for a while now, so I tend to think they are scum together also, as Multi implied...
Kira, Crimson and Scorpio have been together in non's wagon, Crimson and Scorpion in MM's.
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:24 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

xoKira wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote::Think:

even if I havent read them, you aren't answering any accusations, votes, or responses people have.

plus you recent posts contain 0 quality and seem like you are just posting for the sake of looking like a town that doesn't have anything to do

and you baselessly accuse people of being scum

therefore, you have a high chance of flipping scum in my eyes

Show me a question I havent answered, it's probably because I havent read some of the thread. I'll happily answer them now if you quote them
My recent posts contain 0 quality because it's obvious who is scum now
I've made no baseless accusations, my accusations have had reasons


Seriously?! I mean I started work and everything but I still make time to read the entire thread and this confidence you are just exposing, you are just bluffin!
You have been sheeping the entire game now!
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:20 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Crimson97 wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:interesting fact : D3: Crimson was together with me in Kira's wagon but now defending her , Scorpio jumped that wagon right after , then they both left that wagon quickly...

That's because of her hammer. I don't see her flipping scum in any way and i'm not voting her anytime soon.

I think scum is using tosay to get towncred and cause a mislynch later on, that's why there's no counter wagon to Evan. Claudia and Eragon, if you're so sure that Kira is scum why isn't your vote on her?


I've been trying for 2 days now... I sincerely got tired of trying to explain everyone my reasonings why Kira is scum and no one listening... It wouldnt matter if I would vote, would it?!

Except for that hammering (that was for geting town credit), give me 5 good reads from her or show me town motivation in her posts...
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:10 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

ejjinami wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:Welp, I’m a potatoe right now I guess... very spuddy and starchy

Now please tell me what the team is and why you think it?

Also, we are in MyLo right?

I was thinking about evan, claud and you... but I'm backing off on the argument on you, cuz it's possible I took the post too strongly. Spoiler:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:Evan is trying to convince ppl of his allignement after his EoD reactions. He brings on the table interesting associations(which I don't know if he would have had the motivation to get if ppl weren't pushing him cause of those reactions) ... I was town reading him cause his scum plays are more scum-inteligent and those reactions are the complete oposite...
As I see it now, that should be her main reason for townreading evan. That just sounds weird.
It might be me, but if she thinks evan is playing badly, wouldn't she be more likely to suspect, or at least try to get a bit more into reading him?

You didn't understand! I said if he is scum, he is playing bad cause he had good scum games so far, at least the ones I was on and differently played.
Eragon hasn't read D1 and D2 and is making his choices based on the interactions from the moment he stepped in. And he says I am the one that doesn't write much, but at least I read every post from these 70 pages...

Crimson was one of my scum reads from D1 or D2 together with Kira.

Ejj is defending Kira quite a lot, together with Crimson... And even asking confirmation from him ...
ejjinami wrote:@crims then can you say what do you think about my read on scorp?

ejjinami wrote:hey @crims who do you wanna lynch among scorp/MM?
or do you perhaps prefer to cfd to poly/I/evan? That prob won't work out though.

...and I'm having a hard time thinking what is this read if not shade. Like, it looks like she didn't put too much thought into her read and just went with whatever fit to distract people form the lynch. -_- especially since the posts she quoted were my response to Crimson townreading scorpio. Like, lol.
I don't remember the context, but what I found interesting that amongst all the ppl townreading Scorpio, u asked his opinion, several times during the gameplay. I am just trying to understand connections between players.
I'll look more thoroughly when I get home...

EvanManManMan wrote:Wabbit are there any timelines where I don't get lynched?

…and evan is just trying to look pitiful to avoid his lynch. -_- I don't think I have to elaborate on that. AtE doesn't work if it's that obvious.
Eragon1329 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:I say we get Evan today, Multi dies tonight, we no lynch on D6. No matter who gets killed on N5 we get a lot of info.

This isn’t a bad plan, but per my reads, this would put us at a tie with scum, leading to their win.
This one felt like it might be him getting stressed cuz of the pressure on his teammate.
…but it could be me just nitpicking on the words he used, so sry for that. The worst part of the post was “this isn’t a bad plan”, but taken his lack of experience with FM, I think I shouldn't expect him to always use the right words to express himself.
Like, if you change the words at the beginning, the meaning will be: “no-lynching next day is good, but don’t lynch evan”.
But if you leave the post the way it is, it’ll be: “shit, you’re right…… i-i-it’s a great plan! But wait, I think you should think it through, cuz my reads say evan is town, I-I-It will lead to a town loss, so it’s not a great plan after all.”
-_-
it actually doesn’t have to be a stress reaction, so forget about that.


Answers in green
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:06 pm
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

interesting fact : D3: Crimson was together with me in Kira's wagon but now defending her , Scorpio jumped that wagon right after , then they both left that wagon quickly...
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:20 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 2 | Hated in the Nati

TheWabbit wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
ClaudiaM25 wrote:If Poly flips red, do you think Kira is also scum due to Poly's comment ?
I still think Kira is a better lynch now, I gave arguments in a previous post.

claudia do you still stand for this


I still see the posibility of Kira flipping scum the most if this is what you asked.
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:09 am
 
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Re: VFM28: Twin Trap | White Flag (Day 4 | Idrk tbh)

Eragon1329 wrote:I agree.

for me the confirmed towns are

Wabbit
Multi
Me


everyone else has a chance to flip scum, In this order for me

Kira-80%
Ejj-50%
Crimson-50%
Evan-40%
Claudia-20%


Lol, I am curious how u pulled those numbers
by ClaudiaM25
Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:47 am
 
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