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You imply that battling the cop claim would have been difficult, which really wouldn't be.
Nor really had any effect on any of my associations which helped you mislynch in late game anyways
You're welcome.
Not to mention the kill choices lacked something to desired, had you listened to me Poly wouldn't have been locked town either as another potential kill, and had you done your job as the UB K1ll wouldn't have killed Cham which would have bought another lynch and kill ending the game sooner.
Really the Jailed N1 saved you into a lock town point and town sheeping thereafter is what saved the game, everything after that was a mess.

Ryan aside, I do want to know what Zor was thinking with that D1 play cause that was.... well something.
I mean it helped kill the protective which was nice but yeah, NEs don't do that.... it's not a good idea.
Also why NEs should not win in death, so they cant just kamikazi yolo like that

ryanyb wrote:@Elusive
ur welcome.

Really it was the jail claim, which is weird that it worked but not surprised that it did.
Well done to that, really why that left you as lock town is weird but live and learn for that.

Good to know my associations worked as well at least which is always nice, pretty good at faking that and working it as needed.
Cham and Multi really still didn't do anything with it though which is a shame.

EvanManManMan wrote:Elusive, did the jailor reveal themself as BS to you?

Nuh, but they apologized once I told them what I was doing so I presume it was them.
Unless Mafia is playing some mind games which I doubt.
Bottom line is that I was in jail last night one way or another.

polypies73 wrote:
How can I be arso if I was jailed?

I’m thinking elusive lied about being jailed. Because if I had been jailed by underboss, I wouldn’t have been attacked by mafia while in jail. If I was jailed by BS, then that means scum!elusive would’ve had to be jailed by their own mafia, which I would see as unlikely.

As Arso it doesn't matter to you who was really jailed, you would know the jailor was going to die and UB will clearly not intervene.
So just kill Jailor and counter whomever was really jailed. It's pretty simple.

Really why you're doing it is irrelevant as I was actually jailed plain and simple.
I'd post my rant to BS about jailing me but I probably cant.
Wasn't to pleased about it.

K1llthestory wrote:everyone foe elusive everything that comes out of their mouth is just pathetic lies.

Cute, going to contribute to town or just claim scum :^)
Not that hard to keep up with you when you spew inane nonsense.

Poly is the Arso though most likely.

ryanyb wrote:Real herald has no fucking reason to claim detective. I'd put money on the fact that a detective claim was partially responsible for hark getting chosen as the vig target. Vig is retarded nontheless but still.

Also if you were jailed by jailor and they jailed you instead of arso, your claim is also responsible for the jailor getting burned.
You need to stop playing FM if you're town.

The jailor making a retarded choice isn't my problem, it should have been obvious to go after the Arsonist especially after hard claiming jailor.
What else did they expect to happen?

And if you don't realize why Herald would claim Detective you should just replace out, this ignorance is just bad or scum at this point.
However I wasn't attack no so the Arsonist was and Poly claims attacked. The jailed is probably just cover to show they're not arson.

ryanyb wrote:oh my fucking god.
The real herald shouldn't claim.

Real herald shouldn't claim kek, nice way of trying to lynch the Herald by casting doubt to a potential cc.

I understand you can't grasp such a play but sit down before you hurt yourself

FMLSheWas12 wrote:I meant your detective claim.

To be fair as Herald it was a good play, didn't think the jailor would take me though. Was banking on soaking a hit and taking someone with me. I honestly thought I was useless once the protective died but you FML gave me the idea so I rolled with it with the detective claim.

I mean I was actually jailed, not my fault the jailor dun goofed.

Does it help that I was jailed last night so wasn't attacked and no results.

I'm heading to bed and likely wont be around for EoD so I'll see you all tomorrow if I make it.
If not well rip, you know who I was looking at so go from there.

12 hours is some time but that is going to be mostly spent in the night when people are asleep.
I'm good with Soul here for this as I have stated but if it is going to change we need to decide so now while we have the chance before we end up no lynching.

K1llthestory wrote:alright lets take out a cit now

hey bs wifom between protecting elusive and not protecting elusive.

/vote mafiamenace

They can if they want but I cant do my job and they will be easy pickings in my stead, we're both essentially fucked.

I'm sticking to Soul though until they stop sitting on the fence. I want a hard read on things.

Gobln wrote:Any town who is online, just hammer. There is nothing left to say. Looking back, FML is clearly the best lynch for today, but there is no time left to change wagons.

There is more than 12 hours left you nob

As for the claim, wifom does help more to keep scum off and get results out but at this rate I'm dead regardless so I am the detective.
I checked Ryan N1 and I plan to check between Cham, Multi, Poly, and Soul.

Ryan was checked just by default, I don't trust big names that throw their attitudes around. Getting a clear result for any of them is generally the best idea.
I picked between Ryan, K1ll, and FML at the time.

Second choice will be among those I presume to be scum alongside one of the big three, I'm still confident at least one is scum so finding the underlings under would be the next step.

You know some people do have to get home to get to discussion and all, the fact pushing so hard while I'm away is interesting to say the least.
I'll admit to not being the vigilante, that much is fair enough but I have concerns revealing more from there.

As things stand now the jailor will die, there is no way out of that. Jailor cannot survive for the arsonist to have a chance
Mafia can jail the jailor and Arsonist burns them, if jailor tries to jail the UB instead Arsonist still burns them, that is a downed townie guaranteed.
Now mafia will also get a kill off tonight also guaranteed, with an agent in play and three results to work with. 2 spies and a bug, they have good chances of making it another TP.

So with jailor down and likely me down that leaves the Vigilante and one more Town power, town will be at a much more significant disadvantage going forward with only cits left. It will be VFM without any ways of proving anything other than associations and with how inactive the game is that will be rather weak.
So I'm seeing scum trying to push a lynch here, kill the jailor and then bank on controlling the town from here on to mislynch to victory.
There is definitely scum on this wagon and I'm sticking with fence sitting Soul as one of them, as for the rest would take more looking into

Harkonnen97 wrote:

ElusiveBelle wrote:Soul is scum, either of cham/multi is, and the last is between Ryan, k1ll, or FML.

there are 5 scum left. you make it sounds like there are less. i dont accept this derpclear. you're a potato, but not that big of a potato.

Assuming Menace is known arson at this point last mafia would be between whom is left logically. Potential for lumping two together but I doubt it

Soul is scum, either of cham/multi is, and the last is between Ryan, k1ll, or FML.

Ryan was allegedly jailed by UB though so will consider that

Harkonnen97 wrote:

ElusiveBelle wrote:I'll probably stick to soul for now until we see less fence sitting from them

Aren't you doing the same?

Considering I've stated whom I think is probably scum no

As for claiming PR, there a lot of cit claims for a reason. Some of us fit the bill others don't. That's all I'll say there. Really all that needs to be said since I'll be dead regardless without a protective

I'll probably stick to soul for now until we see less fence sitting from them

K1llthestory wrote:yeah fml isnt scum he usually is more passive aggressive and usees emotes less/more tense.

sorry gobln, but im not feeling it anymore. i am feeling this though /vote elusive

I'll agree on FML at least, not so much the rest.
How about a Soul wagon though?
Stated a few times "unsure about the FML" wagon and never had a hard stance on the matter
Must be pretty comfortable on that fence.
Was also fence sitty about Menace too actually :thinking:

/Vote Soul
The true hero wagon has arrived.

BS4125, Gobln, K1llthestory, Multiuniverse, polypies73, STAA

This is the FML wagon, what say you about it Ryan?

Woopsie doo, got prodded...
Been a long day

So why is the wagon flipping from Menace to FML here? :thinking:
Almost like I predicted at the beginning of the day that one of the big three was likely scum though.
Hmmm... funny how that comes back around.

I would like an explanation though all sass aside.

How much time is left in the day? Menace seems to still be the main wagon here but I am curious that if they are scum why is there real attempt at a counter wagon? Everyone just seems to have lumped onto it and nothing else is really being done. There is talk about others and discussion but actual attempts at wagons seems to be unnaturally lacking.

I doubt everyone on the Menace wagon is scum though by the looks of it, at best maybe one if I really had to assume. Not sure on whom between them yet but I'll look into it in a bit. It is possible that scum don't know how to get a proper counter wagon going like in the Lion King mafia, that would be my assumption to the matter so this might change some thing. Need to look into that as well.

Mafia if not you then who and why?
Something more in detail that isn't just defending yourself.

Also side note, kinda forgot Soul was even in this game to be honest.

polypies73 wrote:Off the top of my head:

{hark, K1ll, ladd, ryan, BS, uzay}
{unoticed, soul, murat, mystic, FML, joltik}
{menace, cham, multi, elusive}

imma check elusive, seems unique

Yo Poly when you get the chance, explain this.
Your ISO is kind of all over the place and nothing of actual use nor explained such as this.

Doctor was probably on to something here to at least get them into discussions.