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Cyantic wrote:no, no, you don't understand
i gave myself all of them. i've destroyed the world economy. there is no gold in knox, no silver in any mine. i have made it all into medals and they are all for me. my ego cannot be sated
Stri wrote:That's brilliant.
Simply brilliant.
I had no idea a caporegime can restrain themselves btw. Need to look into those mechanics better.
Question: was snaps sheriff claim planned or was that simply a stupid play?
JammySplodge wrote:Jammy Scumcarry Boys
Dragonfire77111 wrote:Also snap, assuming the scumteam is (chit/stri, Cy/Vidame), there's no reason for Cy/Vidame to CC vig at this point, since scum would win with your lynch as it's LyLo.
Dragonfire77111 wrote:snapshot112 wrote:Dragonfire77111 wrote:Also we're a Citizen (that was pretty obvious but thought I'd say it anyway).snapshot112 wrote:idk if you care, but VidameBianca/Cyantic is maffia as well
If this is right, you're gamethrowing. The mods can deal with it postgame. But thanks for claiming scum (;
I'm gamethrowing?
well that's interesting. Who exactly didn't want to listen to me?
Tbh I said that before I saw the dual vig claims. It seems it was part of a gambit after all and not an intentional effort to make your team lose. So you're forgiven. For now.
Dragonfire77111 wrote:Also we're a Citizen (that was pretty obvious but thought I'd say it anyway).snapshot112 wrote:idk if you care, but VidameBianca/Cyantic is maffia as well
If this is right, you're gamethrowing. The mods can deal with it postgame. But thanks for claiming scum (;
TorqueRxF wrote:Let's just lynch Gent, friend.
Dragonfire77111 wrote:TorqueRxF wrote:lul we made our recent posts half asleep
where did snap refer to the NE slot as witch? must have missed it
Bottom of last page, in that long quote of his.
Dragonfire77111 wrote:chitownmvp01 wrote:FYI: I strongly recommend lynching Snap/Multi before the halfway point of the day because it will be possible that they are a Warlock who successfully hexed. Hammering a Warlock who successfully hexed causes the lynch to fail and day to be shortened by 24 hours.
Although I strongly believe they're Mafia, they should play it safe.
Also, hold on a sec, I should have realized this earlier, but it is extremely unlikely that Gent is Witch because nobody has claimed to be witched. He can't be a Klepto because a Citizen was the only role in the graveyard, and Warlocks don't visit other people.
Gent is most likely Mafia.
Good point.
Tbh if I was Consort and I roleblocked someone who died I'd also claim roleblocked myself to look less suspicious later on in the game when people realised that the roleblocker was a Consort. I wouldn't expect a lookout to be on leyva/cow either.
And I'd rather we lynch Gent/TPA today, because it's possible that RT is a TP who can save you tonight, meaning that you might be able to get another result if we lynch the Consort. And re: your first point about snap and multi, rest assured that if Gent/TPA flips scum then snap/multi gets instalynched tomorrow (once everyone's checked in that is).
snapshot112 wrote:Since a lot of people still don't get it, the theory goes like this:
maffia has 3 members, add the witch to that, and you have 4 allies.
town started last night with 9 members. add 2 night kills and town ends the night with 7 members. maffia needs to get rid of at least 3 other town members and the SK in order to reach parity and win.
thus the maffia starts to speculate who the SK could be, and for some reason ends up with the conclusion that Moonsworth is most likely the SK.
for this theory to work, the maffia needs to have a consort/prankster and a consigliere/agent (thx roz1roz, hadn't tought of the agent yet)
it's not guaranteed that they have those members. But it's not all that unlikely either.
the plan was to set up a mislynch by sending their consort/prankster to a townie, and then claim either tracker or lookout to point out that they in fact DID visit someone. and thus are lying.
This alone is quite a good plan, since after the mislynch they end up with 4 vs 6 vs 1, and if both the SK and the maffia kill a townie that night. The stance will be 4 vs 4 vs 1. But that leaves 1 big problem: The SK is still alive. and when the stance looks this favorable for the SK, the witch might just as well decide to win with the SK. That's why they came up with an alternate plan: Find the SK and then out the SK first. However. There are also a few mayor problems with that plan. As soon as the SK has been lynched and they have got their night-kill. They are still stuck with an 4 vs 6 scenario. requiring them to achieve another mislynch in order to win.
Thus they decide to combine the plans: Each night they send their consort/prankster to a townie, and at the same time they send their consort/agent to the person they think has the highest chance to be the SK. all the consigliere/agent has to do then, is make sure they are online when the results are being sent, (or just like me turn e-mail notifications on) wait for the night results to be posted, and then as soon as their roleblock target posts that they have been roleblocked. you post your message where you are the lookout, and saw both the real SK, and the person that you roleblocked that night visit the person that was killed by the SK.
What do you get out of this plan?
start of the day (4 vs 7 vs 1)
end of the day (4 vs 7)
start of the next day (4 vs 6)
end of the next day the guy that was roleblocked gets lynched and it's 4 vs 5.
and then in the next night they kill the 5th townie, and then (combined with the witches support) the victory goes to the maffia with a 4 vs 4 Tie. If the victory doesn't automatically go to them, all they need to do is vote for a no-lynch and kill 1 more townie. If they hit the witch then who cares? its still 4 vs 4. and then the next night they can get another hit on somebody that is not the witch and they win.
Dragonfire77111 wrote:spretznaz wrote:Figures that cmitc decides to go AWOL right when I come in :/
Question for TruePA: Why would chit/stri (if they're scum) out the SK on D2? That seems like it would be a major error for ANY scum, considering it was already SK-lo for town, no?
D2: 11 alive. 3 mafia, SK, NE, 6 town.
If we'd lynched town: 10 alive. 3 mafia, SK, NE, 5 town.
SK hits mafia: 8 alive. 2 mafia, SK, NE, 4 town. Then the mafia can lynch the SK, kill a townie and win.
SK hits town: 8 alive. 3 mafia, SK, NE, 3 town. Mafia win.
Yeah now that I think about it, it's really really suboptimal for mafia!chit/stri to not only out the SK but push for them to be lynched over TPAGent (who is town in that situation). Once again this cements town!chit/stri
Dragonfire77111 wrote:spretznaz wrote:Figures that cmitc decides to go AWOL right when I come in :/
Question for TruePA: Why would chit/stri (if they're scum) out the SK on D2? That seems like it would be a major error for ANY scum, considering it was already SK-lo for town, no?
D2: 11 alive. 3 mafia, SK, NE, 6 town.
If we'd lynched town: 10 alive. 3 mafia, SK, NE, 5 town.
SK hits mafia: 8 alive. 2 mafia, SK, NE, 4 town. Then the mafia can lynch the SK, kill a townie and win.
SK hits town: 8 alive. 3 mafia, SK, NE, 3 town. Mafia win.
Yeah now that I think about it, it's really really suboptimal for mafia!chit/stri to not only out the SK but push for them to be lynched over TPAGent (who is town in that situation). Once again this cements town!chit/stri
spretznaz wrote:Figures that cmitc decides to go AWOL right when I come in :/
Question for TruePA: Why would chit/stri (if they're scum) out the SK on D2? That seems like it would be a major error for ANY scum, considering it was already SK-lo for town, no?
Dragonfire77111 wrote:chitownmvp01 wrote:Warlocks want to be hammered with less than 24 hours left in the day, which would cause a no lynch to happen. Klepto isn't ruled out either.
I need to read the Klepto rolecard since I haven't played with one before.snapshot112 wrote:It's a bit like trying to explain to your child that santa isn't real. but even after telling them everything they still won't believe you. Who cares?
I tried, but you won't even consider that I could possibly be right. and if that is what you want to do, then just do it. And when you lose, Don't come crying to me because I didn't try hard enough. I did. You just refuse to believe me. I'm not endlessly gonna bother endlessly explaining it to you. I explained everything you wanted but you don't even want to listen.
If you want to lose that badly go ahead. Just don't come crying to me because "I didn't warn you"
/vote chit/stri
If you're town and we lose then you did a good job fighting your corner. But I don't think you could have done a good enough job to convince us regardless of how you went about defending yourself. Even if you're scum you still played better than Gent/TPA and Moonsworth, who barely bothered defending yourself. So nice try.
chitownmvp01 wrote:There aren't any dead roles that the Klepto can steal from that can really help them unless they chose to steal from the Marshal and use the ability on someone that they were confident is Mafia to protect from SK.snapshot112 wrote:It's a bit like trying to explain to your child that santa isn't real. but even after telling them everything they still won't believe you. Who cares?
I tried, but you won't even consider that I could possibly be right. and if that is what you want to do, then just do it. And when you lose, Don't come crying to me because I didn't try hard enough. I did. You just refuse to believe me. I'm not endlessly gonna bother endlessly explaining it to you. I explained everything you wanted but you don't even want to listen.
If you want to lose that badly go ahead. Just don't come crying to me because "I didn't warn you"
/vote chit/stri
Did you ever consider: "Because it's obvious that you are wrong because there are holes in your logic that have been pointed out several times?"
chitownmvp01 wrote:snapshot112 wrote:Cyantic wrote:snap's just flailing at this point
Is there anything that I can say to you to change your mind?
No, obviously not. as soon as I actually have a good point you just go back to 'snapshot is obvious scum' so why would I even bother
and @Chit stop being a drunk idiot. you already know the answer. There is no point in bothering to answer your questions. If you want to say something then say it. So stop being rediculous and answer it for yourself.
JUST SAY YES OR NO FFS!
Maybe you will answer this. If you think I lied about being roleblocked and you believe Gent/TPA, where did last night's roleblock go?
Cyantic wrote:snap's just flailing at this point
chitownmvp01 wrote:Snap do you believe that an Escort/Consort exists?
