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chitownmvp01 wrote:We'll vote Schubby closer to EOD if it prevents a no lynch.

Who is your other scum reads?

You probably won't but that's okay. I've just learned via this game that sometimes you're not that good at reads.


We're TK.

Day ends while I'm at church. I will see if rhazh will be on. I'm guessing it's time for us to claim?

murat1996 wrote:

melanora wrote:

TrueGent wrote:dont bring up 685 var or ill shank you

I was right. You were wrong.

Now lynch chubby.

Define being right

I told him repeatedly that Varanus was scum, gent told everyone I was trash, I got everyone else to listen, and Varanus flipped mafia. It was day one.

TrueGent wrote:dont bring up 685 var or ill shank you

I was right. You were wrong.

Now lynch chubby.

Kmenx actually retarded confirmed.

Why would you want to lynch your neutral read???

Kmenx wrote:Scum team is probabal TPG/Scubby and Moonsworth

Okay apparently only slightly.

I agree with this.

Now just fucking vote this way jfc.

Varanus wrote:

Kmenx wrote:

TrueGent wrote:Rhazhnora/Neantic :thinking

Rhazhanora is probably a neutral

> Probably neutral
> Lynching them is the play

Pick one

Kmenx are you retarded?

Wait I'm ready to vote chubby but what's the vote count?

JFC I'm sleep deprived and there's too many pages.

TrueGent wrote:oh yeah I wanted to respond to this earlier but I forgot

melanora wrote:Gent, I am being triggered by you hard. Whoever said it is right- it feels like you are being puppeted by TPA.

I had to beat them in a game of connect 4 to get them to do things, I take offence tbh

Well, sir, TPA is putting in more effort than you. Furthermore, you're a stick in the mud. Your reads suck. Rhaz and I are not scum, but you can't get past that read, and it's unfortunate, because you're wrong, and you should feel wrong, and you should try more.



@Elb - My read on you is that you are honestly probably a Neutral. You're acting hella weird, all over the place. Your pushes are off. Cmitc was going for easy towncred. Your responses are at my levels of reaction. You're trying to buddy off and on. All around, I don't think you're scum, but I don't think you're Town. OR your role is something where you're trying to lurk but I was trying to soft that and all of you kept pushing so there it is.



People talking about associations between us and Shubby - I was literally the first to call them out as scum, to write up a big post about it, and to vote them. I get that anyone could arguably be SvS, BUT, why would I start a new thing purposely on my scum buddy? I wouldn't. That's stupid.


And Rhazh is pushing for a Moon lynch.

You know more and more I am thinking that it really is Moon + Chubby team. Idk the third. Elb is a Neutral.

Probably an inactive is the third actually.




Anyways.


Again going to request a TI on us - just nip it in the bud.


Moonworth or Shubby lynch is in my playbook.


Moon, cmon. Give a defense.

I've already explained my elb read.

I think he's acting super weird and over the top. I'm leaning more town as time goes by, but something is definitely up.

Elb is definitely off, was pushing hard on me, then defends me, and claims they never really pushed?

I would prefer a chubby lynch, but my partner is pushing for moon. Either works with us.

Gent, I am being triggered by you hard. Whoever said it is right- it feels like you are being puppeted by TPA.

I apologize for my anger. I just want to play the game.

I'm going to go ahead and request TI on us tonight. Just nip that in the bud.

Neasans wrote:mela what

I'm done. I'm just fucking done.

And yes, it took me seventeen hours because my daughter is cutting teeth and I spent most of last night holding her in a rocking chair with only my phone and I was not going to attempt a proper response to this game via mobile, and instead waited until I could get on my computer, which, yes, was 17 hours later.


Deal with it.

OKAY ONCE FUCKING AGAIN ALLOW ME TO ONCE A FUCKING AGAIN EXPLAIN MY POSTS


MULTIPLE PEOPLE WAGONNED ON ME FOR THE MEMES


AND THEN SAID OH THEY ARE INACTIVE CONF SCUM


AND I ROLL IN AND SAY RLY IM SCUM BECAUSE IM INACTIVE BUT THERE IS OTHER SLOTS MORE INACTIVE AND YOU DONT CARE?


SO I POINTED OUT ALL OF THE INACTIVE SLOTS TO MAKE A POINT


THAT YOUR REASONING IS BAD


AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD


NOT BECAUSE PEOPLE DONT HAVE REASONS TO BE INACTIVE


NOT BECAUSE I WAS SCUMREADING ANYONE INACTIVE


BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE IGNORING OTHERS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO VALIDATE THEIR SHITTY WAGON

FMLSheWas12 wrote:Kmenx so are you suggesting mafia wouldn't vanity wagon bus? No offense but that's really dumb.

That stated the interaction mela pitched I'm not really sold on but I find plausible.

I think that both teams have big enough egos to try and pull this shit.


Where does it say there isn't Mafia Day Chat?

viewtopic.php?p=2191662#p2191662

???? You've literally been scumreading cmitc all game, but now you say that my reasoning is awful, even though he's not the reason I'm scumreading the slot?

cmitc1 wrote:@mela
bleh, I said it was worst scenario, and you cant tell me town isn't in a bad place if we lose majority...... accusing me of doing it for town cred feels kinda like your creating wifom? the main goal of the post was to generate conversation, it didn't work how I wanted to, but it worked. I don't think you should use that as a as a reason to town read us (as its easy for any alignment to do), but I don't expect you to use it as a reason to scumread us.

I'm lierally not the only person to say you did it for towncred. That stated, I'm not townreading your slot. Catch up.

TheParanoidAndroid wrote:

melanora wrote:He just townread snap, but now says he is VI?

The US government was working on a secret project: weaponized autism. However, while performing human experimentation, the subject escaped. Rumor has it, the experiment is still on the loose, causing chaos.

Oh don't be so rude. He literally had it tiered, and snapshot was up near the top, and then all of a sudden he's combining snapshot with others that are lower down on the list with the VI comments. One second he's a top townread and the next he's VI? Just sounds weird. I don't include VIs with people I'm legit convinced are town.

viewtopic.php?p=2191987#p2191987

Really TG? Your scum reads are the inactives? That's it? Pls try again.

FMLSheWas12 wrote:I don't get the Rhazh & Mel scumread. We more or less began scumreading the slot for lack of response to pressure and when Mel tried making reads everyone dunked on her. Unless this lynch is purely because you guys think she's bad then you've come to the right conclusion but otherwise it's NAI.

Welcome to my life these days. People start a wagon, expect a response, no response happens, I attempt to play the game, get regularly insulted, anything I say gets analyzed and misconstrued, I finally get annoyed because the insults are pissing me off, and oh no, mela scumslipped! let's lynch her - and I'm fucking Town.

I can't even play anymore. I get wagonned for the memes, my response isn't acceptable, then I get lynched for it.

TrueGent wrote:mel is pretty much just yelling about inactives as far as i can read so not much for me to reevaluate

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Kmenx wrote:

melanora wrote:the third is inactive* jfc.

You still didn't answer the main question

Which one is the neutral Schultz/Chubby or Elb/Cmitc?

Oh no. I think it's plausible they are both Mafia.

the third is inactive* jfc.

All of these inactives, at least one of them is Mafia. I think the third is Mafia.

Alright so Schultz128/Chubby - going to start with schultz, then move onto chubby.

Schultz128 wrote:

Varanus wrote:

Schultz128 wrote:Goddamnit I thought Understood was in this now I have no one to death tunnel.

Ultiix

I don't need to death tunnel something bound to self destruct.

I jut have to start with this - i find it hilarious that you knew they were going to self destruct.

Anyways.

Look at Schultz's reads list. I won't quote the whole thing, here is the link.

Notice anything interesting about it?

THERE'S NO SCUM READS.

It's all town, you're shit, or null. No one has a scum label beside them.

Otherwise, Schultz is generally inactive, understandable, but that means we have to roll off of their reads list.

No scum reads? Really? We have 40 pages. Surely someone is pinging you.



okay so onto Chubby.

In viewtopic.php?f=17&t=68057&p=2184730#p2184730 this post, Chubby says that cmitc's math pings him, which yes, I get, but then Gent says to vote, and he's like yes okay let's vote, and continues on to say the wagon is perfect and what not. If cmitc's post was pinging you, why not vote sooner? You waited until directed? Sounds like obvious sheep, but not wanting to start a wagon to me.


And then, we move forward. Most of Chubby's interactions are with Elb, which is understandable, because Elb is who they are voting for, except that that is who Elb is spending most of the time talking to. Now, I don't like to lynch based on PoE, but, the whole two of you against each other is overdone, and it screams of wanting to be TvT but is actually SvS.

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=68057&p=2187208#p2187208

Okay so in this post, chubby says that their slot is doing stuff - but schultz hasn't done anything, and the only thing that chubby has done is sheep gent, and then argue with elb.

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=68057&p=2188767#p2188767

And now we have chubby's reads lists. I don't get why he's scum reading Stri/Chit at all, nor does he ever explain it, save in the post listed above where he says his slot is doing something but theirs isn't - but chit has been involved throughout, unless I'm imagining someone else? Furthermore, why townread Multi/snap and TC/Torque? By this point in time, neither team is actually involved. And, he's townreading Munch/Leyva, when that's the closest his hydra partner came to calling someone scum.

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=68057&p=2189023#p2189023

He just townread snap, but now says he is VI?

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=68057&p=2189174#p2189174

Now, after all of that arguining, chubby says that elb is town but cmitc is scummy? But, what has cmitc said? Just that one post, really, and nothing else to contribute - is he scum reading just because of that one post? Why spend 25 posts arguining with the slot then? You even agreed with the math?


Oh, and then he says he'll lynch Neasans tomorrow, but earlier had Neasans listed as Null?


TLDR: Chubby and Schultz have been all over the place. Their reads contradict each other, and Chubby's posts contradict his reads list, and his arguements. Elb v Chubby is SvS.

/vote Schultz/Chubby

Kmenx wrote:2 hours passed mel pls

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ahhhh I'm literally writing this now.


And I'm trying to organize my thoughts and his thoughts into a post that makes sense okay?

TorqueRxF wrote:Wasn't the Rhazhnora wagon to test their response to pressure

mel's focus on them not being the only inactive pair is pretty bad ngl



Stri's like, lock town for me, guy's too damn transparent

It started as memes, and then people said "oh they are lurking so they are scum", which is why i said "now wait a minute if we're going by that logic why are you not talking about these five inactive slots here" to prove a point.


Anyways, Rhazh is sick, so it looks like it's just me today. I'm going to keep this list basic, and then I'm sure there will be more questions later, however, I do plan on going through my biggest scumread's ISO breaking it down as to why I'm getting a scum read on them after this post, but you gotta give me time.


/unvote

because dumb claim

Town
1. Stri/chitownmvp01
2. TimeToReap/Utiix
7. TrueGent/TheParanoidAndroid
14. Kmenx/Varanus
15. FMLSheWas12/Murat1996

Null
9. Moonbird/Swordsworth
10. Neasans/Cyantic

Inactive
3. JamesD28/Jezz
6. Leyva45/IAmMunchlax
11. JammySplodge/Chikoly
12. TiltedComedian/Torque
13. Snapshot112/Multiuniverse

Scum
5. ctmic/Elbmuh
8. Schultz128/Chubby


I already explained previously about Elb/cmitc, but as they are NOT my biggest scum read, I'll go ahead and explain it here.

So cmitc was definitely trying to go for easy towncred with that whole "herp derp we could easily be in end game tomorrow" post, but the thing is, the game isn't over just because town loses majority - if the nk is still in play, town's shots are not over. and really, explaining how close we are? nk could hit scum, scum could hit nk, there could be tk in play, there could be tprot that saves - we don't know. we really do not know. it was a stupid grab for towncred.


Now, I will say that is cmitc's base meta is to go for the easy things - easy town cred, easy mislynches, BUT, that's not the big information here. It's Elb's response to it.

Reread those posts. He's kind of going insane, repeating himself, trying to talk bigger and louder. Loudest guy in the room is the one that is generally believed. And since then, he has been buddying. Particularly, what he has said about my slot bothers me. Initially he is all about the wagon, then is suddenly defending us when it takes off?

Also the push on snapshot is hella weird from them.

Standby for more about Chubby/Schultz

I'm giving Rhazh another two hours before I move forward.


The number of people screaming "useless" that are also useless is kind of absurd.

That was simply my point.