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Honestly, during the night I compared ISO's for both the cit claims. I made an entire case for dragon being scum and there was a lot of stuff that pointed to that. That is why I was surprised about the night kill and assumed they just gave up as scum. I wasn't specifically scum reading them anymore. If I was not so stupid to vote them right away and they had brought up the possibility and someone else actually told me a capo can retrain themselves, I would have considered the possibility. Chit and I scum read Jammy/Chik for the longest time and I think there would have been a fair chance we'd have lynched them in that case.

However, just like I mentioned before, to me the only possibility was them being scum (because I was under the impression a capo can't retrain themselves and thus a prankster here was impossible).

Having said that, I still do think Jammy deserves credit for her plan. It was basically her only option and it worked out for her (despite the last night kill being not the best). This win wasn't solely caused by me being an idiot, but also by Jammy having a good idea.
Also I think people are forgetting about the rest of the game. But our slot almost carried this town to win when we were in Lylo by day 2. And yes, that doesn't redeem my mistake, but it is worth something.Yes, I fucked up last day, badly. It sucks and I'll learn from it. I'm the kind of guy who makes the dumbest mistakes (Ep XII, VFM 13, 12D), but I'm also the guy who doesn't make them twice.

Kmenx wrote:Hourly reminder that lynching people before they check in is stupid

Noted for future games xoxo

Kmenx wrote:Maybe if every dead person(cy counts as a dead person) is saying something

Maybe just maybe there was no salt and they are just right and your play was fucking stupid

I haven't said my play wasn't stupid ;o
There are multiple ways to express criticism, this is not always the most effective one.

Goes a bit far to calling them confirmed town. Also I think Jammy doesn't get enough credit here, people react as if this was the most transparent thing ever, where imo it was a really clever play. Most people are forgetting that when you're reading the game knowing the alignments things are actually way more obvious than if you're still in the game.

I'm not defending the last day play here btw, I see how that was shit now and ended up losing the game for town. I do think there's a tad too much salt in most replies though.

Varanus wrote:I do actually happen to be somewhat upset when people sign up to play games and they don't know how the game works

I agree there. But imo there's a difference between not knowing roles or not knowing a part of the roles mechanic. If you wanna blame the loss solely on that though, be my guest.

I see now that it was stupid not to wait for spretz/anonymous to check in. I guess that's my inexperience still since this is like my 5th game? But hey, you got me, I fucked up, I'll take the blame for that one.

Varanus wrote:Would blacklist stri just for not even knowing what roles can be in the game tbh
That's just disgusting

Don't get triggered ;o
I knew the roles in the game, I simply didn't know a capo can also retrain themselves. I thought they can only retrain their mafia buddies. If that's blacklist worthy, then I should get a blacklist right away indeed.

Kmenx wrote:I am going full salt on the next townie who tries to defend their D6 play

so just shup up

Tbh I really thought this was the only possibility.

I'll take this and learn from it ;x

Dragonfire77111 wrote:Clever play there by Jammy, never would have guessed it... GG mafia.

For once all my scumreads were right... sigh

I wrote half an essay on your slot overnight, how I was almost sure you had to be the remaining mafia member.... I sent it to chit just before daystart. He must have laughed....

Cyantic wrote:killing a cit confirms apretz/anon as town which is something mafia will never do because it's gamethrowing
there was only one unproven slot and that was jammy's

Honestly, I thought it was a shit move by maf but I thought they just gave up. I had no idea a capo can restrain themselves to something else so to me jammy/chik were confirmed kinda...

That's my inexperience I guess...

Sorry cyan ;(

Cyantic wrote:wait what the hell

killing the cit was literally a scum claim by jammy what were you guys doing
goddammit i even said that in london chat yesterday

Blame me tbh. I had no idea this was a possibility.

That's brilliant.
Simply brilliant.

I had no idea a caporegime can restrain themselves btw. Need to look into those mechanics better.

Question: was snaps sheriff claim planned or was that simply a stupid play?

1$ on godfather

chitownmvp01 wrote:WTF was the Witch doing all game???? lol

Dragon hammer pls.

Dragon died ;(
Cyan/Vidame have to hammer ;o

this kill is ????

Anyways that's game.
Jammy/chik is the doc
Cyan/vidame the vig
and we're lookout.

/vote anonymous/spretznaz

I made a whole case on dragon/wabbit being the maf lmfao

JammySplodge wrote:Tmw your hydra partner has not posted since day 3

lmao

having gone through elbmuh's ISO I can see enough distancing between him and snap... I think dragon is more likely town here.

Whats the good thing about nolynching here?

Neasans wrote:Slept peacefully.

Geez the likelihood of two TKs even existing, rip. O_o

This was totally a TK soft. I don't see Neasans making this play as scum keeping in mind that they'll compete for the TK spot later on.
On top of that I've seen some posts between snap and cyan that felt extremely natural.

Torque/Tilted otoh have barely any associations because of the little amount of posts.

Let me look into the cit claims for a bit.

Checking in from mobile.

We were indeed healed, jammy/chikoly is lock town.

There's obviously one scum within the cit's and one within the vigi's I think we should lynch not he cits today. If we lynch scum there we can't lose. Well stay on jammy/chick, they'll stay on us. Maf will then have to kill either jammy/chikoly where we will see them, or kill the real vig and out themselves.

Te only question is who the scum is in the cit claims. I'm gonna start working now and do some more reading there later.

I'm super busy rn. Can't do much this weekend. I'm leaning towards cyan/neasans being the real vig here. Bbl

@chit I'll check in in discordchat tomorrow

Multiuniverse wrote:Hi.

That maf kill was rly random.

Now, I reckon Chit/stri lied about being rbed to makes it seems like there's consort and that we're mafia.

Or we were actually role blocked by a consort and you're actually mafia. This really adds nothing to the discussion, unless you want to go back to the useless discussion that we had for a large part of D2, where it's just our slots going:

"You're wrong!", "No, you're wrong" [repeat to infinity]

I disagree with the maf kill being random. Purple was obvious town yesterday imo. He was asking questions and everything he did had a town-agenda. He was critical of both my slot and the snap/multi slot and was constantly reviewing every play that was made so far.

Roz was critical of me in particular in the end. I believe he said the more I talk the less he started believing me and the only reason for still believing me was because he was scum reading TPA/Gent. He even said there was a possibility of us being SvS.

Both players were clearly trying to keep discussion going and kept every possible scenario in the back of their minds. Don't see why this is a random kill.

JammySplodge wrote:I get that Gentroid is likely scum and Stritown is likely Town but what if there's a Framer
Does that make enough room or multishot to be town too or am I just being dumb

Why would a framer go for Shitown on n1?

I still want to hear from more people why Gent/TPA wouldnt be sk here. Maf would rather give up a scumbuddy than sk here and no one has been opposed to moonsworth or even tried to switch it to TPA/Gent. I'm still worried about he apathy from both.

The only thing that makes me think moonsworth is the sk is the fact that TPA/Gent claimed roleblocked. Don't see that coming from sk, but maybe I'm missing something.

Still waiting for snap to come with quotes from yesterday to answer purples question she btw :>