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He deserves it more than half of the town t b h.

Olly actually did pretty well guessing the Witch.

I played quite shit this game, TR'ing nearly all of the scum and playing pretty scummy.

The Mafia got fucked over hard, but in the end Swords would have been screwed by Cow anyways and people would have picked up on Gent hard defending Swords, which would have just left Chubby.

It's kinda hard to defend myself when barely any actual accusations have been made...

I'd prefer people to actually state a reason for why they are voting me but w/e.

I'm not going to be able to be on after this, so once I'm lynched, lynch MGR. Quite confident that they are GF. Also lynch TheWolfBuddy. I don't care how bad people say he is but his play this game has been quite terrible. I'm not too sure who Metrino's alt is, but if someone knows them and knows that they are semi-intelligent then I suggest they be lynched as well. Also, don't put all your trust into Cow. He hasn't done much this game yet people seem to be completely ignoring him.

5 hour road trips are fun.

metrino wrote:Micheal/Macca/?

lol

I was re reading through Sevo's ISO and it's actually much better than I originally thought. I haven't seen much sheeping from him and in some situations he has actually been going against the towns consensus, causing him to stand out, which is something an NK would not want. I didn't originally like his gutreads list but he has been quite consistent in his reads (eg. tr on Murat) and his recent reads were decent. Also Sevo putting people like Gent and Cow in his scum list makes me feel like he is town, because I think that scum!Sevo would have just left them aside and gone for easier targets.

Which leaves me completely bewildered on who the Arsonist could be. And yes, I realise people are probably going to say 'because it's you' or some crap like that, but my former Arsonist suspects have all dropped down after tfios claimed Double, Murat claimed Medium and after realising that Sevo's play is quite anti-neutral.

/vote TheWolfBuddy
I feel like Wolf is much more likely to flip Mafia rather than Arsonist, but I'm honestly out of ideas on who it could be. I'd be voting Michael rn but there is pretty much no chance that he is Arso, whereas with Wolf there is at least a slight chance.

Around 23 hours left I think. I'm not in my normal time zone and the countdown clock isn't working for me, so I might be wrong.

As for the people who are saying that I would perform the mafia kills, well, yes, I do tend to make safer kills rather than risky kills, but the kills this game weren't even safe kills. They were kills which were on people who could have been easily mislynched. I have played with Lucky and Deanius. I know their play style. I believe that the mafia kill was made by people who hadn't played with them much and/or don't know their play styles.

As for Gent saying I have done jack shit this game, that isn't really true. This post was more content than some people have done all game and my other posts have had some decent content if you bothered to read them. I have given out my opinion on events that have happened, given out my reads on certain people and my thoughts on them, contributed to the discussion and I have given out my scum list. I haven't been that active due to IRL stuff but there wasn't much I could do about that.

I'll make a post on why Sevo should be lynched later.

Elusive, transport one of your Arsonist reads (or even 2 of them) tonight to prevent ignition if the Arsonist isn't lynched today. If we do lynch Arsonist, do whatever.

/vote Sevo

With the Medium claim, Murat is likely to not be Arsonist. I don't see him making up that claim on his own, so either it's true or his scumbuddies sorted it out last night. So my vote goes to the next in line.

As for my scum list, just switching Sevo for Murat as Arsonist and switching Murat for Sevo as mafia should work.

Also Wolf, mind explaining why I am scummy? Because I have asked at least 3 times now, and the only answer given is about the results.

Wolf, say I was the framer, now why the fuck would I leave myself as Framer/Disguiser?

Besides, my odds are on there being a Disguiser along with a GF and some other role. Realising that the GF result wouldn't get me lynched and possibly whatever other result not being likely, they decided to switch their own results with my results.

Wolf, I believe it was you who talked about how 'stupid' the mafia were that it is very likely they left the Framer/Disg results on the Framer/Disg. So, what's stopping them from being stupid enough to frame/disguise someone with the Framer/Disg results?

And why would a framer not frame themselves as a town result???

Isn't it funny how everyone thinks I am scum but nobody has actually given any reason for it other than 'he has framer/disguiser result xd'

Why don't we have Murat talk to TPA tonight and find out his role, then Murat can claim that role in the morning and Tfios can confirm it. This does rely on Tfios being town however.

Metrino, I'm not too sure whose alt you are, but I really hope that you are smarter than this. I want you to think about what the situation is right here.

An invest has claimed that they would check me, and the result they were given was Framer/Disguiser. Now, I really dislike using self-meta, but I'm not that bad as scum. At least, I'm better at scum than I am Town.

Now let's say I am a Framer, and an invest has claimed that they would check me. I don't care about WIFOM or whatever, I'd save my own soul and frame myself as Cit/GF or frame myself as something else, which would allow me to claim a PR role. If I was a Disguiser, I would have either swapped myself with the GF, or if there was a capo, I would have switched myself with someone who I thought would be a Cit.

This could even be put for anyone, regardless of skill level. It's pretty much just logic to not leave yourself as a Framer/Disg. If you ask me it's still pretty stupid to frame someone as that as well, since usually Town would be smart enough to see through that.

IIRC dead people are not allowed to talk with each other if there is a Medium in play. Can someone confirm this?

TheWolfBuddy wrote:i love how there's outed scum but you guys aren't lynching them :thumbsup:

By outed scum are you referring to an Invest result which has only mafia deception in it? Meaning that the only way I am mafia is if I decided to not change my own invest results when I knew I was going to be investigated or if I am GF and my invest results were switched with the disguisers, which wouldn't make any sense.

TheWolfBuddy wrote:

MaccaMania wrote:/vote Murat

Comfortable with my vote here.

me too thanks

/vote macca

Nice.

Also I have yet to actually see a reason for why I'm being scumread.

/vote Murat

Comfortable with my vote here.

Scum List:
Godfather/Capo - MichaelgRook
Random Mafia - LinearPoint
Random Mafia - Sevo
Random Mafia - WolfBuddy

Double - Tfios
Witch - Stri
Serial Killer/Arsonist - Murat

Taking the night kills into consideration the mafia list kind of makes sense.

I'm honestly up for a massclaim.

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:

MaccaMania wrote:Arsonist will most likely claim Cit unless they are trying to do a really ballsy play. A claim doesn't really help determine if they are Arsonist.

If an arsonist suspect claims not cit then they are likely not arsonist. Wow that wasn't a very far step in logic now was it?

No shit, but I was referring to the fact that a Cit claim isn't going to make one person more or less likely an Arsonist than any other Cit claim, and we are going to end up with a decent amount of Cit claims.

Arsonist will most likely claim Cit unless they are trying to do a really ballsy play. A claim doesn't really help determine if they are Arsonist.

I'm on a roadtrip and didn't have coverage from yesterday night to just now. Sorry about that.

I doubt that the mafia would have framed me unless either they had already checked me.

I'm kind of confused on the douses and kills from last night. Unless Mafia were in contact with the Arsonist, why would the Mafia leave the Doctor alive and more importantly why would the Arsonist target the doctor if he was likely to be killed?

My Arsonist pool consists of Murat and Sevo.

Olly chucking the Witch under the bus makes him less likely to be mafia, but still a possibility. He might have thought that he was definitely going to be lynched tomorrow and he couldn't make up a result he didn't have as he would be lynched the day after, so he decided to just chuck the Witch under the bus for a conf!Town attempt.

Slept peacefully

I'm a Cit. Mafia were probs doing WIFOM with the framer result.

I'll be online 2/3 hours before the deadline hits, so I'll have time to change my vote if I have to. Hopefully I can think more straight in the morning.