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Fun game!

Dmsc, I'm sorry if I sounded rude in my last day post to convince BS I was actually just trying to convince him. You've won fair and square and therefor deserved the win! At some points I was super annoyed that you didn't side with us, but now I see that this is what actually brought you the win. If you did what we wanted, mafia would have ended up winning. Congrats!

XUltiix, I was sad when you replaced in, thought you were here to carry another game. But this time town did what I was trying to do in our last NFM game (and what I failed at miserably), lynch you for your tone to others. I have to admit it was funny watching this, but I also see why you play like you do and it's very pro-town. I wonder what you'd be like when you roll scum though...

Heavens and Wabbit: it was fun playing with you guys. I was convinced we didn't stand a chance at some point, yet you guys kept the discussion going which resulted a scum win. I had a lot of trouble with my activity this game due to work getting hectic and my timezone (literally everything went down between 2 and 7 am my time ), sorry for that!

And haha jezz, I didn't expect you to side with maf at all! Funny that it'd have been better for me to let you live. You were in my eyes the best townie this game.

Finally a shout out to chit for being a great host! You were helpful and fast. Also thanks for the feedback in the mod rant!

BS4125 wrote:/vote Stri

It was 4am, give me a break pls

So Stri, I caught you out in the beginning of the game and from helping Juvenile you didn't do yourself any good. However dmsc was confirmed scum D2 and manipulated the Town to keep him alive until this point.

Since I am a kingmaker at this point I decide to crown dmsc, after all he was the most Town like person out of you both and supplied everything he had to help the Town take you down

Fair enough! :)
I'll ask you something about this post game, but for now:

Congratulations dmsc!

BS4125 wrote:Sure, I'll help you
/vote Stri

Bs, deep in your heart you really want to help me cause I did better
I didn't see dmsc counter any of the points I made, unless "I did better" is a defense

Oh by the way, out plan after James died was going for a nolynch. Then at night, dmsc would douse me and we'd kill jezz. The following day it'd be 2vs2. We'd lynch bs (or nolynch) and I'd roleblock dmsc, surprise: I'm a consort and I think we have kept that hidden well.

Unfortunately I didn't get the chance to post last day because I was traveling. I still have a thing or two to add to this game. So sorry if this is going to be a wall, but BS I do urge you to read this through.

I'll say it up front, it might sound arrogant, but I think the only faction who maybe deserves the win in this game, is the mafia. The town made a few very costly mistakes (never work with an arso because it'll bite you in the butt), some smaller than others. The arsonist however, was upright terrible (I'm sorry dmsc, I just really think you were). Yes, you were roleblocked right from the start, but unlike others who called it "bad luck", I believe that was really your own fault. You were the most scummy player to me that day and, after juveniles lynch, to most others too. That is why you were roleblocked. Then, when the massclaim happened and so many people claimed PR's, you decided to claim Bodyguard at the very end, áfter 3 other protective claims, and after you claimed citizen first. Did you want to make it any more obvious? And then when the BMer messaged you, instead of keeping that hidden and use it to your advantage, you reveal pretty much everything. Now, I do believe it was a huge (HUGE) mistake messaging you, but in my opinion you gained nothing at all from revealing those messages. You only made it harder for us. In a NFM setup like this, maf and arso need to work together to win the game. We didn't have an arso working with us, in fact, you were against us. You believed James was maf (had you fooled there ) and doused+ignited him.

BS, you were mafia in NFM37, you know what it was like when the walls are constantly closing in on you after a mass claim. The constant pressure. The mass claim in this game happened when maybe we weren't fully prepared for it yet. But we coordinated our claims very well, decided to bus wabbit at the right point, hammered xUltiix as planned and had the arso do exactly as we predicted, tricking him into thinking James was mafia and igniting him. Our play definitely wasn't flawless, but it was much better than the towns and the arso I think.

Now, of course I hope you choose to lynch dmsc, but of course it is your own decision. If you end up voting me off, then the arsonist outplayed the mafia apparently, and I'll have to re-evaluate this game :p

But for now I'll say that I think dmsc lasted only because of a combination of luck and towns-insanity.

I've had a fun game, and I'm happy that it's proven that scum can win with this setup.

/vote dmsc

JamesD28 wrote:Welp I guess I have to say this now

I ain't a Consig guys
I've been pushing for my own lynch because it would make you realize that I've been framed by Stri and I was right about Heavens
Heavens didn't switch her vote because she knew that too and didn't want to be exposed

The only way we'll have a chance now is if Tardis rb's either Stri or Heavens and dmsc doesn't ignite

Twilight posting isn't allowed.
Also tardis, roleblock James or bs if xUltiix is town. If maf gets in a kill we're screwed.

Lololol that was wrong
Also that wasn't a hammer sigh

/vote xUltiix

My message still apllies

Fine tardis. You've not been listened to all game so I'll go with you. If xUltiix flips town rb either James or BS as one of them will be doing the kill.

Dmsc ignite James.

Also, if town has no chance of winning I'll side arso.

/vote James

No one post. This was hammer

JamesD28 wrote:

Stri wrote:

JamesD28 wrote:It was obvious that my quickhammer was a mistake and I tried to undo it. That isn't a reason to "check" someone who was your 2nd highest townread.

Your quickhammer was scummy af, which is why I decided to invest you over tardis. I found all your replies after the hammer pretty fake. my results proved me right.

My break is now over, will be back in a few hours.

I'll remind you that the person I accidentally hammered was Mafia?

And ill remind you that because of the hammer, there was confusion about which plan we were gonna follow. Will also remind you I was the one to find the person you hammered as maf.

JamesD28 wrote:It was obvious that my quickhammer was a mistake and I tried to undo it. That isn't a reason to "check" someone who was your 2nd highest townread.

Your quickhammer was scummy af, which is why I decided to invest you over tardis. I found all your replies after the hammer pretty fake. my results proved me right.

My break is now over, will be back in a few hours.

JamesD28 wrote:I'll also add that I was Stri's second highest Town read - why would a Sheriff check one of their highest Town reads?

Also, why did he "check" TheWabbit the day before when he read Tardis and Olly as scummier?

Nice try James.
I checked Wabbit because that's what xUltiix told me to do in his plan.
I checked you because I was supposed to check either you or tardis. You quick hammered yesterday which is why I decided to check you.

Also, tardis, I hear you and I'll consider it. I'll be inviting for now cause I can't be online for the coming hours and I don't want a hammer to happen. Also if possible, I'd prefer to be the hammer myself.

/unvote

Sigh. Everything is going down while I'm at a rehearsal. I suggest no one hammer anything yet. I don't have acces to a computer till about 20:30, which is 5 hours from now.

Also nice try James, playing you like a cello lol

@chit can we get a votecount?

So, we hang james. Maf kills me. People left:

dmsc - arso
tardispaten - escort
heavens, jezz, Bs, you - one maf, 3 cits. We don't know who.

And basically it could be anyone at this point, except maybe heavens, because James was calling her out as a BMer, so that almost certainly clears her.
Meh, we're in a much worse position than I thought.

.... Everyone following me?
LOL, I must have missed something. Last time I checked, you came up with the plans :p I merely found Wabbit as scum and now James as scum.

I've skimmed over the votes. James is nowhere near to a hammer. So
/vote James

But I swear to god if anyone hammers him before we have a plan and thought everything over, I'll go nuts.

tardispaten wrote:

Stri wrote:

Jezz92 wrote:Risky lynching James? You just revealed him as mafia lmao!

Tonight you can check bs, me or ultiix, tardis can role block any of us, whoever he suspects most. Dmsc can douse whoever the hell he wants, it won't really matter at that point.
Lynching someone you've outed as mafia is more beneficial than picking 1 of 3 possible citizens, no?

Okay so let's put the scenarios out here, we currently have 8 people of which 3 are scum:
We lynch james. maf kills someone. We have 6 people of which 2 are scum. majority.
We lynch a cit. In the case we lynch right, maf will be 100% surely role blocked that night. the next day we know James and the arso. Done, no matter if the arso ignites or not.
We lynch a cit. In the case we misslynch it's 7 people out of which 3 are scum. Maf kills someone, 6 people and 3 are scum. 50/50 scenario.

Which means, lynching james is our best option then? I don't like relying on the arso's plans since he will 100% surely backstab us if he can win.

Can I ake an input please stri? Lynch ulti, I'll block James as DMSC ignites. Simple as!

Great plan, except when xUltiix flips town and dmsc won't ignite. It relies too much on dmsc.

Jezz92 wrote:Stri, yes, James is the best option. You found him as mafia. So vote for him. Much better than choosing between three citizens. If James is town, you're exposed. Heavens too. But, he's mafia for sure, so it's fine.

Ultiix, listen. Does stri's lack of motivation to lynch James seem odd to you in any way?

Sigh, Jezz, I'm not sure why you are targetting me here. I've never said it's riskier lynching James, I just said I didn't look at any scenario yet. After that, I sketched all the scenario's, and voila! I think there's enough motivation to lynch james in there. Have I missed anything?

Also, I'm not voting until I see a vote count.

xUltiix wrote:Also if Stri is mafia this town is done because all of this town are sheep and will follow him

lololol, I wish I was, this game would have been in the bag.

Can we get a vote count?

Jezz92 wrote:Risky lynching James? You just revealed him as mafia lmao!

Tonight you can check bs, me or ultiix, tardis can role block any of us, whoever he suspects most. Dmsc can douse whoever the hell he wants, it won't really matter at that point.
Lynching someone you've outed as mafia is more beneficial than picking 1 of 3 possible citizens, no?

Okay so let's put the scenarios out here, we currently have 8 people of which 3 are scum:
We lynch james. maf kills someone. We have 6 people of which 2 are scum. majority.
We lynch a cit. In the case we lynch right, maf will be 100% surely role blocked that night. the next day we know James and the arso. Done, no matter if the arso ignites or not.
We lynch a cit. In the case we misslynch it's 7 people out of which 3 are scum. Maf kills someone, 6 people and 3 are scum. 50/50 scenario.

Which means, lynching james is our best option then? I don't like relying on the arso's plans since he will 100% surely backstab us if he can win.

Jezz92 wrote:

Stri wrote:

Jezz92 wrote:Ultiix isn't mafia.

Lynch James today. This will 100% confirm stri and heavens as town, or expose both of them as mafia. If James is mafia, dmsc douses bs, if James flips town, dmsc douses one of stri or heavens. This will take complete loyalty from dmsc, however, so we need to question whether or not we can trust him.

If he can go for his own win, he probably will. Can't blame him for it either, I would do the same in his position.

But James is mafia, right? You just checked him. So we should be good, 2v5 at the end of today, dmsc can douse literally anyone, tardis rb's bs, we lynch bs tomorrow (you could even check him just to be 100% sure), and then lynch dmsc the next day. It works just as well as the other plan imo.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this statement expressing your concern for dmsc going for his own win almost seems like you know James will be a misslynch.

I'm not sure where I express my concern, I'm just saying, if it's riskier than lynching a cit, I don't wanna do it. If it will still ensure us a win, I'm down. I haven't done the math yet tbh.
Also, I don't like how xUltiix suddenly got 3 (?) votes. I'm not quite sure he's a good lynch today.

Jezz92 wrote:Ultiix isn't mafia.

Lynch James today. This will 100% confirm stri and heavens as town, or expose both of them as mafia. If James is mafia, dmsc douses bs, if James flips town, dmsc douses one of stri or heavens. This will take complete loyalty from dmsc, however, so we need to question whether or not we can trust him.

If he can go for his own win, he probably will. Can't blame him for it either, I would do the same in his position.

Question for dmsc:
Why are you so inclined helping us over the maf. I want to know this because I want to be able to trust you 100%.

Also, I'm not sold on xUltiix being maf. He's been really making all the plans for us so far. He played like this last NFM game I was in too and he was town (although, no-one could really know his scum-meta cause he really always rolls town lol). But I need to think about this.

BS, I hope you understand that from my POV you are no confirmed citizen. So Wabbit/James/You is still a possible maf team for me.

Just got up. I checked James because of that damn hammer.

james is mafia

Meaning the last mafia is likely to be James and BS?
I'd say let dmsc ignite James tonight and hang a cit claim. This makes tardis town, he's probably our most important role atm. I'll take a shower and go through these walls of text.

I'll be checking in the PR's, James is still checking in the citizens. We've only got 2 more maf to find and the arso is already caught.
Piece of cake

TheWabbit wrote:why am I laughing at a typo

You're confirmed cum.

tardispaten wrote:And correct me if I'm wrong, but no one elst still claim ts here, then maybe you can reduce your cum read on me a bit...

Stri, also consider that when you decide to get arso to douse, that so far, im the only one claiming ts...

Please...

Well, it was just an idea. Honestly, I think the arso will be dousing heavens most likely.
Also, as much as I would love to tell you otherwise.... claiming TS doesn't make you less suspicious
The rolelist has TI, TP and 3 RT's. Those 3 RT's could be 3 protective roles in theory :p