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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Ending)

Eragon1329 wrote:Mr. Larryteeth played fucking amazing

very impressed


This
by Multiuniverse
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:15 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Ending)

Chemist1422 wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
TrueGent wrote:
EvanManManMan wrote:oh my god Jesus Christ this literally took a fucking month thank god its over

:roll:

Hey, everyone, let's poll the masses.

Would you play this type of game again, seeing as how 22 of you ended up involved at one point?

Did you have fun?

Heck yes
Heck no


Yes and yes
by Multiuniverse
Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:47 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

UzayAltay wrote:I Will prefer to stay on moon , but Will vote Wabbit If needed .
When is EOD ?

like 2 hours
by Multiuniverse
Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:28 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

I really wouldve prefer ed/uzay/cenvil but i see that cfd wouldnt be possible
/vote wabbit
by Multiuniverse
Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:27 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

UzayAltay wrote: Spoiler:
Multiuniverse wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:(ED, Wabbit, moon , Multi )

I think Remaining traitors are at there .
If my (3,8,8) guess is True
Than We Dont have time to lynch here full , due We should endgame phase 8
Given that 5,8 would be OP for scum
Or Actually even 5 is OP for scum
And We already Lost If 5,8 is case
No reason to consider that
So Let's assume it is either 4,8 or 3,8

Actually Let's assume 3,8 is The case and find A solution for 4,8 at Same way.
Things to consider :
1) Wrong endgaming Dont waste A day .
So , We should always vote for endgame If We lynch 2 More traitor , Unless We believe there is 5 traitor at SoG.
Let's look at situation ( assuming 3,8,8 is perfect Numbers,and We cleaned Group First )

A) 2 in : at worst We can lynch Group until EOD 7 , and Than endgame Day 8 .
B) 1 in , 1 out : If either 8 is True , We Lost
Otherwise it is just that We Will have one More chance , I Dont think Rick Will give us More Than 3,9,9 at any case.
C) 2 out : GG Maf .

If We have 4 instead 3 , I Dont think We would have 8,8
For some reason , I wrote 4,8,6 but at that case 8 is A bit less , and We are probably Lost anyway due 6.
If there is any place We lynched 2 traitors , We should endgame , Because wrong endgame Dont lose A Day.
My guess is ( moon , Multi) for scum at there . Actually Pretty sure on moon , but cant be sure on Multi , even though thinking on that way.


Stop these numbers nonsense
Doesnt help with scumhunting

Start making cases on why we're scum

You know , PoE is A thing .
And If I could make A case , I would Do already.

So you cant make a case?
by Multiuniverse
Thu Jul 04, 2019 3:47 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

FMLSheWas12 wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:/vote ed

I still dont see an actual case on moon except for "xd their d4 iso"

I suppose her push on HTG can be chalked up to apathy, but accusing Uzay of dangling his clears is a pretty bizarre stretch given the reasoning. The claim itself, if assumed to be valid, is much credible than just lynching HTG for her typical behavior. It's dishonest to make that claim and is likelier to come from scum.

Moon also had a habit of defending town lynches essentially upon their sentence. It makes me think she's going for cred because the development of her Chemist town read was just Chemist calling out someone which anyone could agree is within the range of any alignment. It doesn't look like a genuine flop.

Where have you seen the case on Ed? :EvilLUL:


im p sure their statement was trying to make it seems like uzay isnt scum because if he is then he's dangling his townclears
as for the second point thats meta so idk

ed is barely here and has been flaking

Moon asked to resolve HTG or Uzay so probably not.

I didn't mean to imply it was Moon's meta rather that's what she's doing this game and especially her defense of Chemist didn't seem like a natural progression from a townie.

do pbpa cause im not convinced w/o evidence
by Multiuniverse
Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:01 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

FMLSheWas12 wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:/vote ed

I still dont see an actual case on moon except for "xd their d4 iso"

I suppose her push on HTG can be chalked up to apathy, but accusing Uzay of dangling his clears is a pretty bizarre stretch given the reasoning. The claim itself, if assumed to be valid, is much credible than just lynching HTG for her typical behavior. It's dishonest to make that claim and is likelier to come from scum.

Moon also had a habit of defending town lynches essentially upon their sentence. It makes me think she's going for cred because the development of her Chemist town read was just Chemist calling out someone which anyone could agree is within the range of any alignment. It doesn't look like a genuine flop.

Where have you seen the case on Ed? :EvilLUL:


im p sure their statement was trying to make it seems like uzay isnt scum because if he is then he's dangling his townclears
as for the second point thats meta so idk

ed is barely here and has been flaking
by Multiuniverse
Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:20 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

/vote ed

I still dont see an actual case on moon except for "xd their d4 iso"
by Multiuniverse
Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:51 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

Flake wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:
Flake wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:
Flake wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:
Flake wrote:i think cenvil might know my alignment actually tbh

Okay now I really don't trust your judgement

Why? What’s wrong with this?

You keep on saying "it's obvious" but it really isn't and at this rate you're bound to be wrong somewhere

Why do you think it isn’t obvious

It’s very clear to me

I mean because there's no indication?

I don't need to prove that Cenvil doesn't have a clear.

italicised is strange wording that plausibly infers that fml is able to prove that cenvil does not have a clear, but simply "doesn't need to"

thus alluding to fml having the knowledge that cenvil flips town, implying fml is wolf

though there is obviously room for doubt using italicised as an argument alone, even if it is somewhat of a hit against fml on it's own

that room for doubt on the following argument essentially diminishes when you consider the following argument

note that in the first bolded phrase i specifically mention that i think cenvil knows my alignment

but in the second bolded phrase fml jumps to saying "cenvil doesn't have a clear"

for what reason does town!fml have to jump to making this a matter of cenvil having any clears at all when the argument i made was only ever about cenvil having a clear on me

there's no logical reason for this jump unless it comes from wolf!fml accidentally inserting information that he already knows; that cenvil indeed has no clears at all, arising from wolf!fml's town clear on cenvil


Very hand wavey but I can think I lowkey see it?

Certainly using the word "clear" is weird but still I don't think it's that damning
by Multiuniverse
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:44 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

Multiuniverse wrote:
TheWabbit wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:whats the case on moon again

D4 sketchy jump onto HTG alongside flake

that's all i remember


Then why is fake not being wagoned


flake*
by Multiuniverse
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:40 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

TheWabbit wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:whats the case on moon again

D4 sketchy jump onto HTG alongside flake

that's all i remember


Then why is fake not being wagoned
by Multiuniverse
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:40 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

UzayAltay wrote:(ED, Wabbit, moon , Multi )

I think Remaining traitors are at there .
If my (3,8,8) guess is True
Than We Dont have time to lynch here full , due We should endgame phase 8
Given that 5,8 would be OP for scum
Or Actually even 5 is OP for scum
And We already Lost If 5,8 is case
No reason to consider that
So Let's assume it is either 4,8 or 3,8

Actually Let's assume 3,8 is The case and find A solution for 4,8 at Same way.
Things to consider :
1) Wrong endgaming Dont waste A day .
So , We should always vote for endgame If We lynch 2 More traitor , Unless We believe there is 5 traitor at SoG.
Let's look at situation ( assuming 3,8,8 is perfect Numbers,and We cleaned Group First )

A) 2 in : at worst We can lynch Group until EOD 7 , and Than endgame Day 8 .
B) 1 in , 1 out : If either 8 is True , We Lost
Otherwise it is just that We Will have one More chance , I Dont think Rick Will give us More Than 3,9,9 at any case.
C) 2 out : GG Maf .

If We have 4 instead 3 , I Dont think We would have 8,8
For some reason , I wrote 4,8,6 but at that case 8 is A bit less , and We are probably Lost anyway due 6.
If there is any place We lynched 2 traitors , We should endgame , Because wrong endgame Dont lose A Day.
My guess is ( moon , Multi) for scum at there . Actually Pretty sure on moon , but cant be sure on Multi , even though thinking on that way.


Stop these numbers nonsense
Doesnt help with scumhunting

Start making cases on why we're scum
by Multiuniverse
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:39 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

whats the case on moon again
by Multiuniverse
Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:06 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

MrChuckleteeth wrote:My lynch candidates today are Moonbird and Cenvil. After going through Wabbit's ISO and re-reading some interactions I don't feel Wabbit is likelier to flip scum than these 3. I'm still not sold on an ED lynch either, and I'm not willing to trust Flake enough to sheep their apparent plan. And as far as Uzay goes, I don't think the way they've played the game so far as well as the lynches they seem to be pushing (and how they felt about the ED lynch) indicate they are scum. I think Uzay is possible town, though I'm hesitant to say they are probable town.

Since I know half the players here are opposed to a Cenvil lynch, I doubt that wagon will be happening today.

My vote stays on moonbird, given I think they're likeliest to flip scum.

I will be here before EoD.


Like 3 people oppose cenvil
by Multiuniverse
Wed Jul 03, 2019 7:26 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

How much time left?
by Multiuniverse
Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:30 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

Flake wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:
Flake wrote:also pretty sure uzay knows eragon's alignment

I hope you're not making the same type of arguments to support lynching Ed. :$

uzay knowing eragon's alignment is so obvious though

If you think it's so obvious then why dont you vote them over ed
by Multiuniverse
Wed Jul 03, 2019 6:11 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 4)

UzayAltay wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
moonbird wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
moonbird wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
moonbird wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:Tfios, if you are town, resolve Cenvil when you get lynched.

resolve uzay or htg ffs

Nice scumslip .
You knew my vote wasnt on tfios due Your comments on them at 3206902
You want me vengekilled
When Kill can only go to players which ended vote on that wagon .
/vote moonbird
I think a town!moon would know This , when scum!moon may not pay attention that .

????

I was talking about tsfois's shot because cenvil was a hot trash shot to take?

It is not even close to What I am saying here .

Can't anyone be venged?


/vote moonbird


We've been through this
The info is available on the op and town might didnt read their rc thoroughly etc etc so its not a scumslip

The thing is when We thought it is not A scumslip
It flipped scumslip

It may not hold true for everyone
by Multiuniverse
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:04 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 4)

UzayAltay wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
moonbird wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:Tfios, if you are town, resolve Cenvil when you get lynched.

resolve uzay or htg ffs

Nice scumslip .
You knew my vote wasnt on tfios due Your comments on them at #3206902
You want me vengekilled
When Kill can only go to players which ended vote on that wagon .
/vote moonbird
I think a town!moon would know This , when scum!moon may not pay attention that .


What the fuck
Why would scum intentionally say "xd you can't be venged but be venged anyway"

:Facepalm:
Have You really understood This from This ?

Yes
Though after our discussion I understand what you meant now
by Multiuniverse
Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:03 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

Cenvil2 wrote:Which leads back the following conclusion that moonbird does not Care the game to bother even read it.

And missing the first one with a mod post quoted? Maybe.. Rick spoke a lot during this game.
But how you TR someone without reading their posts?


It's not like you remember/analyze every single post your target makes
You just pick out the most impactful/relevent ones
by Multiuniverse
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:32 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

Cenvil2 wrote:With a fast skrim I found these:
dota2reporter wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:A Traitor does not have an ability on lynch.

oh
oooooh
i thought that was the point of giving them 4 town names
so that if they're lynched they can kill off a town on their wagon



Cenvil2 wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Btw after my probable lynch, Im killing dota. Any objections?


Oh I missed this. That makes things easier then on the unlikelier scenario that you flip town.

/vote Phone0Ix

I'm still reading through Phone's ISO though.

@dota if we lynch you today and you flip town who do you kill, or do you kill at all?


You all realized there are two condition for Phone shooting dota after their lynch, right?

After the ongoing arguments I doubt either one is happening.


Chemist1422 wrote:I just checked and neither Multi nor FML are voting me

Are they scared of my vengekill? Am I confbiasing my previous read? Am I completely insane?

Find out next time on Ace Attorney Z


Chemist1422 wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:/vote chemist

Im unwilling Mr. Apollo Justice is this dense

this is a wolfy vote because I already committed to vengeing seth



Dota outright said the mechanic. (in a wrong contest, but did it)

And the other posts I quoted here dont make any sense, if you dont know about the work of the mechanic.


Second and fourth doesnt imply much
First and third could be missed
by Multiuniverse
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:22 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

TheWabbit wrote:
FMLSheWas12 wrote:OH MY GOD HTG WAS SHOT WHY

Didn't people want HTG dead, then only transferred to tfios for compromise?

By people do you mean Flake and Moon
by Multiuniverse
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:08 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

Cenvil2 wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:I guess from now on cynics should may reconsider not to use their revenge shoots...
Also a Red HTG would have helped a lot...
So the shoot was not the worst what could have happened.


Venge shots are basically second lynches so use 'em

And If I think everyone on my wagon is town?


Pick the one you think is least likely to be town
by Multiuniverse
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:02 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 4)

Cenvil2 wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
moonbird wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
moonbird wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
moonbird wrote:
MrChuckleteeth wrote:Tfios, if you are town, resolve Cenvil when you get lynched.

resolve uzay or htg ffs

Nice scumslip .
You knew my vote wasnt on tfios due Your comments on them at 3206902
You want me vengekilled
When Kill can only go to players which ended vote on that wagon .
/vote moonbird
I think a town!moon would know This , when scum!moon may not pay attention that .

????

I was talking about tsfois's shot because cenvil was a hot trash shot to take?

It is not even close to What I am saying here .

Can't anyone be venged?


/vote moonbird


We've been through this
The info is available on the op and town might didnt read their rc thoroughly etc etc so its not a scumslip


Not reading their RC is one thing.
But did you count how many times was this mechanic mentioned in the thread?
Only Chemist's ISO is full of them. (especially late Phase 3)
So Moon either did not read those, or thought Chemist is BSing...
Moon said something on the line that Chemist is town. (Well the post said Cehist or something similar)
How on Earth would they knew that Chemist is town if they did not even read Chemist's posts?


I dont remember anyone explicitly mentioning that you have to be on the wagon to be venged eventhough it's common knowledge
by Multiuniverse
Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:01 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

Flake wrote:/vote EvilDeanius

this has no votes on it, correct?


Nnn
I suppose I can compromise onto ed
by Multiuniverse
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:56 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 5)

Flake wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:also what reason would you have for not outing it in the first place if it helps solve the game?

because it's a relatively strong strategy that likely wolves do not yet realise they should be counter playing

giving my reasons for why cenvil is very likely town outs this strategy


Oh
Eh

I'll have to think about it
by Multiuniverse
Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:54 pm
 
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