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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 2)

Ah, it appears I've misunderstood your post.

I thought you were referencing a lack of response to FML's points on chemist which I would argue is NAI.

From my PoV, chemist hasn't really said anything noteworthy, or anything that would make me change my vote.
by Jamezbeast
Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:51 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 2)

MrChuckleteeth wrote:I could seriously make another wall on why I think Olly flips scum should we lynch him today just with the posts that he has made after my wall. I’m considering doing so as of this post. I think Olly has a traitor’s PoV of the game.

I will say though I am a little exhausted from IRL stuff as well as this game.

I’m going to look into Cenvil Chemist FML and HTR today. tfios and moon I sincerely hope you are going to begin contributing a little more because the more opinions and contributions from different players that are out there, the easier it will be to gamesolve (imo). Having 3-4 potatoes just spectating and saying a couple of things every now is detrimental to the town.

I think there’s at least 1 scum in Olly/Cenvil/Chemist at the moment.

And I like FML’s point about Chemist essentially being ignored.

Fair. Will try and contribute more.

Do you think FML'S point being ignored us in any way indicitave of chemist's alignment due to the nature of the game?
by Jamezbeast
Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:38 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 2)

OllyRenard wrote:
Cenvil2 wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:it was extremely fencesitty

Oh well. Let me make it more clear: I don't think FML is scum because they have no reason to defend me.

So you are claiming that no scum would see you as town?

They are scum they want to lynch town

It's pertinent to note that scum have been given 4 confirmed townies.

Postulating 3 mafia with different clears, it's likely we're all cleared to somebody.

Hm. Also, Olly, what makes you consider yourself the most likely lynch? I didn't catch that on first read but it seems a little weird.
by Jamezbeast
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:00 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 2)

Chemist1422 wrote:Snap PoE is Cenvil/FML/Olly/Jamez/ED

Interesting; I'm here to talk. I really need to figure a way into the game.


To put an opinion out on the scum wincons; if I was mafia, personally I'd focus on self preserving; because, if even one mafia stays alive, then they win.

RN if you put a gun to my head and said "Is Olly town?"
Answer would be yes. His logic makes sense to me but then again I'm not a good player. I also like their htg push not from a lynch PoV but from a point of I have no idea why scum!Olly ever pushes that idea.
by Jamezbeast
Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:56 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 2)

Jamezbeast wrote:Well.

I'm kinda struggling to get into the game but, last chem Post in FML's wall is interesting; to me it just appears as shade. @chem how do you feel about the post and FML'e alignment after the phone flip?

Also I'd say ED slanks as either alignment, so that's not the best read Wabbit.

/vote chem

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If anyone wants to ask me questions on specific players that would be helpful :^]
by Jamezbeast
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:30 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 2)

Well.

I'm kinda struggling to get into the game but, last chem Post in FML's wall is interesting; to me it just appears as shade. @chem how do you feel about the post and FML'e alignment after the phone flip?

Also I'd say ED slanks as either alignment, so that's not the best read Wabbit.

/vote chem

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by Jamezbeast
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:29 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

I caught that point whilst reading, so I'm not fully up to date on current events. And, I might be reaching here, but if I was scum, I'd potentially interpret "properly read" as a buddy call.
by Jamezbeast
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:33 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

MrChuckleteeth wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:tbh i just wanna get lynched d1 so that i kill a mafia and don't have to worry about this game anymore

if i kill a townie, oh well, OMGIS

alright i realised that these two posts sound like gamethrowing so ignore them


dota you're not providing the content I need you to provide for me to read you properly.

This post seems very weird to me and almost as if traitor!chuckle is trying to signal to Dota who isn't one of his clears.

Chuckle expressed quite a strong read on Dota so this really doesn't make sense.

/vote chuckle

I havent fully read phone, but I'm comfortable here.
by Jamezbeast
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:27 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

I don't see scum!Dota responding to FML like that. Especially seeing as he doesn't know FML's alignment; it seems naturally nonchalant which is town indicative imo
by Jamezbeast
Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:18 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

MrChuckleteeth wrote:
Jamezbeast wrote:
Multiuniverse wrote:
Jamezbeast wrote:
Helicooler wrote:
Jamezbeast wrote:Morning.


Just wanna say: if you are town, and you are lynched, it is 100% anti town to not take a shot.

The shot/lack of a shot gives us a flip 100% of the time.

what if you are like 100% guaranteed to kill town

This is never the case in a flipless game but at any rate, even if it was, the information that we did not lynch scum is far more important imho.


https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ace ... 0909141244

While I agree that such tactic would be smart earlygame (especially if used on PLs and shitposters) during late game since one of the end condition is that a certain amount of townies are dead it should only be used if the person has substantial amount of scumread on a given player

I disagree. I think we need a signal on scum being lynched so we have an idea whether or not we should end the game. If we know we've flipped at least 2 scum via lynch we can feel a lot more confident on ending the game postulating that at least one person killed by a townie was scum.


I have a tinfoil based off of this post and their ISO that points at Jamezbeast being fully aware that the game wasn’t flipless and that this was just an attempt to gain towncred. Like the way they developed that discussion to me seems like they purposefully lead it toward them “spewing” that they weren’t aware that the game was flipless, and hoped that someone would use that to townread them.

Again it’s a tinfoil and this development might have been genuine but I have a weird gut feeling that tells me otherwise.

Interesting. I mean, j don't think it's AI because I thought the game was flipless when I joined, and never actually realised it wasn't until I was told.

Do you think I was trying to slip? Or gain towncred based on suggesting the vengeful actions from town pov.
by Jamezbeast
Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:13 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

Phone0Ix wrote:Btw after my probable lynch, Im killing dota. Any objections?

A quick skim of his ISO says I'd probably let him live. His response to FML seemed quite natural.
by Jamezbeast
Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:12 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

Okay, so I hugely need to catch up.

But what did phone do?
by Jamezbeast
Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:23 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

Just kidding. Please carry on with your day.
by Jamezbeast
Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:19 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

Chemist1422 wrote:Wait it’s not flipless

Y’all are dumb lol

Oh wait
by Jamezbeast
Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:19 pm
 
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Chemist1422 wrote:Can we not

Thanks

Also wait it’s flipless

Yes hence vengeful tells us we've lynched town. We need it.
by Jamezbeast
Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:14 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

Multiuniverse wrote:
Jamezbeast wrote:
Helicooler wrote:
Jamezbeast wrote:Morning.


Just wanna say: if you are town, and you are lynched, it is 100% anti town to not take a shot.

The shot/lack of a shot gives us a flip 100% of the time.

what if you are like 100% guaranteed to kill town

This is never the case in a flipless game but at any rate, even if it was, the information that we did not lynch scum is far more important imho.


https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/ace ... 0909141244

While I agree that such tactic would be smart earlygame (especially if used on PLs and shitposters) during late game since one of the end condition is that a certain amount of townies are dead it should only be used if the person has substantial amount of scumread on a given player

I disagree. I think we need a signal on scum being lynched so we have an idea whether or not we should end the game. If we know we've flipped at least 2 scum via lynch we can feel a lot more confident on ending the game postulating that at least one person killed by a townie was scum.
by Jamezbeast
Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:10 pm
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

Meh, it needed saying. It's probably our only chance of winning game as tbh it's inherently scumsided no matter the numbers.
by Jamezbeast
Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:43 am
 
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Chemist1422 wrote:I’M FINE!

Weird flex but okay.
by Jamezbeast
Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:38 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

Helicooler wrote:
Jamezbeast wrote:Morning.


Just wanna say: if you are town, and you are lynched, it is 100% anti town to not take a shot.

The shot/lack of a shot gives us a flip 100% of the time.

what if you are like 100% guaranteed to kill town

This is never the case in a flipless game but at any rate, even if it was, the information that we did not lynch scum is far more important imho.
by Jamezbeast
Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:33 am
 
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Re: SFM 60: Paranoia Mafia (Trial Phase 1)

Morning.


Just wanna say: if you are town, and you are lynched, it is 100% anti town to not take a shot.

The shot/lack of a shot gives us a flip 100% of the time.
by Jamezbeast
Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:33 am
 
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