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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

TheDebil wrote:
Qvapil wrote:But debil in your last post, ignoring the stuff about yesterday's misslynch, still you're talking about maf!chemist, not sk!chemist. What do you think about seth?

yesterday wasnt a mislynch
nope im talking about sk chemist. i just mentioned the fact that his play was more likely coming from maf chemist than sk chemist.
seth is playing like he does all of his town games, truth be told i dont think i saw him play as scum but i dont think he would have enough balls to tunnel people relentlessly and not be afraid to be vigged/cop checked or just straight up lynched, especially if he was sk. his posts also seem rather pure, lad just wants to lynch chemist currently


On my previous game together with seth, they interacted with more people. Sure they did tunnel, but less so than this game. I'll go find the post if you want me to, but Rick said during D1/2 (can't remember) that "were I scum with seth I'd tell him to keep doing exactly what he's doing". Seth could have taken that to heart and stayed narrow minded since then.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 7:20 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

@chemist, I'm not quoting cause I don't have spoilers, do you have a completed game with goomba? When replying to my case on them, why did you say their joke isn't AI for them?
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 7:04 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

But debil in your last post, ignoring the stuff about yesterday's misslynch, still you're talking about maf!chemist, not sk!chemist. What do you think about seth?
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 7:01 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Debil if you liked my goomba post check chemist's iso, he has some more stuff about goomba's ate which I didn't mention.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:59 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Chemist1422 wrote:How does going against a mislynch yesterday give anyone any towncred when both of the scum are solo


Technically if tfios were lynched, ejji shot rick and rick killed a townie, we'd be in 3/0/1 MyLo where SK has chances.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:56 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Do I have to read seth vs chemist
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:51 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Also if by some miracle it's not goomba then the night kill will give us insight on chemist.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:41 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

/vote Goomba
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:39 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Seththeking wrote:It should be very clear Me, Qva and Debil are Town at this point.
My suggestion is we lynch between Chemist (-) GrumpyGoomba always.
We will always win by this.


My vote is always Goomba today.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:38 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Seththeking wrote:Before anyone replies next read my big post. :)


I read your post, at some point it seems you misunderstood what chemist said but I don't want to defend in their place. However I'm pretty sure chemist is town. I'm not voting them today.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:36 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

TheDebil wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Debil you were on the fence about chemist yesterday, and you thought me/goomba were likely SK candidates. Why do you think it could be chemist over me?

I'm kinda paranoid you're trying to use the fact that seth will always vote chemist.

good question. im not fully convinced you are town, but you are really towny and gamesolve alot, and compared to chemist/grumpy you are less likely to flip scum imo.
if you see my posts i have you as a townread and just mention that you could flip scum, because it seems like everyone just kinda locktowned you when that should not happen. same with the other message seth quoted, since he got so into his tunnleing it seemed like he forgot grumpy and you even existed


Reading your iso I don't see much about chemist. Do you think he's possibly SK just because me and seth are less likely from your pov? Do you think he's worse than goomba? I'd like you to go into a bit more depth when you have time.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:34 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

GrumpyGoomba wrote:People were coming up with ideas that I am the sk at that point xD


GrumpyGoomba wrote:I'm sad... do I really look like a psychotic murderer that much? *hides the bloody knife behind me*


This joke was really off place at a point when the game was pretty serious. I can totally see myself making a joke like this as an SK being suspected and having low odds of winning. Also I feel scum joke about being scum much more often than town do, though that's not so telling.



GrumpyGoomba wrote:I wonder if I truly would've put this much focus on me being the sk if I actually were sk...

Anyways nope you are wrong. Swap me for ejj and that's a go on the scums.


Yes you would. That's how psychology works, people tend to focus on themselves. Also it fits in with the theory that you chose cop/vig immunity. See these posts where you're trying to exploit this:

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Okay I have finally caught up with the thread. Did a cop check on me succeed? If not then don't claim. See people think that I am the sk. If I was the sk then :-
1. I would be immune to mafia kills, that would make it so that cop can find me. Why would I want that to happen to me actively?
2. I would be immune to vig/cop. That would make it so that I am literally announcing to the mafia that I am not immune to them by wanting a cop check on me, making it so that maf can eliminate me anytime they want.

How could what I am doing be even remotely beneficial to me if i were the SK?

As for me being mafia, I don't really know people would come to that conclusion. Who would I even be in a scum team with?


GrumpyGoomba wrote:I hope that through some magical luck the cop check is on me and it succeeds and I am hopefully cleared.



And your stance on vig revealing:

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Strongly disagree on vig revealing. They get 2 more bloody free shots by not revealing. Also nice one vig.


You wouldn't want them to reveal since they're confirmed town and you're immune to their shot, so revealing only makes it harder for you.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:28 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Seth in our previous game where you were town you did not put so much effort in to make a post like that. I'm legit paranoid of you right now.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:17 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Chemist1422 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:@chemist and seth, have you played with debil before? Could you give some insight on their meta?

neither their town or scum meta is like this but I’d call them town because other things

1. GG
2. Seth


Is it because of their catchup wall? If that's TAI then from now on I'm always replacing in late and writing huge posts for freelo.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 6:10 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

@chemist and seth, have you played with debil before? Could you give some insight on their meta?
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 5:56 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

TheDebil wrote:this time no long reads since ive mostly skimmed

[qvapil]
[goomba, chemist]
[tfios]
[rick]

rick is probably the highest scumread still, his overall tone early feels pandering and his stance on cupcake vs crimson d1 felt mafia like. other posts and reads dont really change my opinion. i think has decent chance to flip either of the scum allignments

chemist overall kinda weak too, his defense on seth feels towny but it might just be pure frustration because seth is a clown sometimes (sorry not sorry, drop that shit) . purpose slip or whatever that was supposed to be feels NAI, something i would do as town to try and clear myself. i dont really think scum would pull that but who the hell knows sometimes

seth is still seth, if the vig claim was cleared my read on him stays as pretty much locked town

qvapils other posts seem to be fine, gamesolvy and as other said, pure. not really scumreading this slot from the skim whatsoever but this still has potential to be scum, most likely sk tho

goomba's early vote on cupcake i liked, asctualy has a reason unlike cupcakes vote on uzay, which was simply a memevote, so i dont think a bus happened there. still a chance to be sk, moreso than qva since i think goomba is overall slightly more scummier

tfios probably my other candidate for a vote today, other than rick here. iso is mostly garbage, but i like her tone in defense , and push on rick, but otherwise this needs to die imo



TheDebil wrote:qva and grumpy still exist seth



Debil you were on the fence about chemist yesterday, and you thought me/goomba were likely SK candidates. Why do you think it could be chemist over me?

I'm kinda paranoid you're trying to use the fact that seth will always vote chemist.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 5:53 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

1. Goomba
2. Debil

I'm pretty sure it's goomba tbh. They've been coasting all game and had some questionable posts.
by Qvapil
Thu May 23, 2019 5:49 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

This is rick talking about flake and chemist's exchange on SOD2.

Rickdaily12 wrote:
-Huge snip-

Everyone this game so far has literally spent the entire time talking about how this person or that person derped themselves into being called lock town so far. If I were Mafia in this game and I saw everyone narrowing down their PoE lists because of it, then yeah, I can see myself trying to fabricate something like this, and I can totally see other people doing it as Mafia too. This kind of scum theater would also serve a hell of a lot of purpose under the circumstances too. I don't see it going exactly the way you quoted it in the above (not unless you're the biggest troll literally ever and this is exactly how it went), but I can see it getting suggested no problem at all.

Flake, seriously, like how exactly do you plan on expecting us to believe that you wouldn't pull this off as scum because you don't have the skill for it?



This is rick neglecting that SK can switch the vig off.

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Seth if you're sure on both mafia and SK, isn't it more beneficial to lynch the SK and shoot the maf at night? Though I don't think it matters so much.

Not when you're trying to target lynch. If Vig announces who they shoot tonight, and they live, we know that an SK with town immunity got hit last night.

This is why we should really give zero shits about which scum we lynch today and yet another reason why Vig should be claiming today.



Do you guys think Rick would fake this just as he described on his former post? Out of frustration of everyone slipping? Or is it too obvious because he talked about it on D2? Or am I reaching too far and am too paranoid
by Qvapil
Tue May 21, 2019 12:54 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Ejji is our vig, zucker wasn't serious then I think
by Qvapil
Tue May 21, 2019 12:34 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

TheDebil wrote:question
was zucker claiming vigi solved later on


What do you mean by solved?
by Qvapil
Tue May 21, 2019 12:33 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Tfios I hope you understand the tight spot we're at now. If you're town you should be trying to save yourself at all costs here.
by Qvapil
Tue May 21, 2019 11:29 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Chemist1422 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:Honestly, my biggest scum read is Rick

He’s being a whole lot less influential than he’s been in his other games as town

I looked through his iso and his interactions with uzay seemed pretty suspicious like there was a mafia chat going on

I really want to pull iso quotes right now to show what I’m talking about but it’s hard on mobile


Will you have time to put in some effort and explain your rick read a bit before EOD? Because you're not really convincing rn and it's highly possible you'll be lynched. If you're town, that will put us in a real tough spot. I'd say a townie at your spot would be a bit more concerned.

Don’t think this applies unless tfios is exactly mafia/SK that gave up


I know but if it's just tfios not engaging with the game as they usually do we're doomed. We can't afford to mislynch at this point.
by Qvapil
Tue May 21, 2019 11:27 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

tfiosforevah wrote:Honestly, my biggest scum read is Rick

He’s being a whole lot less influential than he’s been in his other games as town

I looked through his iso and his interactions with uzay seemed pretty suspicious like there was a mafia chat going on

I really want to pull iso quotes right now to show what I’m talking about but it’s hard on mobile


Will you have time to put in some effort and explain your rick read a bit before EOD? Because you're not really convincing rn and it's highly possible you'll be lynched. If you're town, that will put us in a real tough spot. I'd say a townie at your spot would be a bit more concerned.
by Qvapil
Tue May 21, 2019 11:23 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Is that AI for tfios at all?
by Qvapil
Tue May 21, 2019 9:11 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

Those of you who have played with tfios before, do they get become more active as scum when they're pushed? Because many people have expressed a scumread on them and they don't seem to care that much.
by Qvapil
Tue May 21, 2019 9:10 am
 
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