Town of Salem Game Forums

Spoiler:

UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
3cheers wrote:-snip-

there were some people who called the Wabbit wagon bullshit and bad right off the bat
there was none of that when the poly wagon started to kick off
-snip

Who is This "some people"?

3cheersforidiots wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:@3cheers can You give me A defense to me?

what kind of defence do you want me to provide, and to what points of yours?

3cheersforidiots wrote:-snip-

UzayAltay wrote:/vote 3cheers

In my opinion, them flipping from Poly to Wabbit in The way they Did was Scummy.

Reason of Poly scumread: an actual scumread
Reason of flip: no pressure against Poly wagon

go read again

good thing is, Crimson/Uzay almost never w/w here, so I think I'll keep my vote on Crimson
lemon might also be a good vote for today imo

(this is like, unless Sparking/Uzay are making absolute fools out of the entire town)

UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Is there any case on Poly?

their reads are sheepy and the rest of their posts are fluffy
I think they did recognise their posting as bad but didn't really make an attempt to improve on it

(An actual scumread)

3cheersforidiots wrote:
Hellosither wrote:
Hellosither wrote:my gut tells me that a polypies lynch is not a good idea.

mainly what i mean by this is that i think the progression today has not been in favor of polypies - i think they've remained a likely lynch candidate for almost all of day 1 and i dont think mafia would be ok with allowing that. i think they would make polypies change their behavior.

okay, you're correct in that there is not much resistance to the poly wagon, unlike there is to the Wabbit wagon
/vote Wabbit
see where this goes
also I'm not 100% here bc I'm playing Drawful with friends but I'll try to read the thread

(resistance vs no resistance)

That was Last point of argument, which You didnt answered.

so swapping to a different wagon because you think the top wagon is likely to flip town is scummy?

Can You not dodge First part of question?
About second part, Okay , Let's assume You really changed your reads with resistance thing completely.
If You think it really isnt Scummy, Than Why You went ahead and Said "Go read again"? That doesnt seems More Than a delay attempt atm.

@Uzay:
Exhibit A:
Here's Jabi protesting the Wabbit wagon:

Jabichuelas wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:I can't find any solid reasons for w!Poly in 3cheers/Javi's ISO

Javi what is your scumread on Poly, all I can see is that you can't find anything townie about them.

@Samurai, Poly aggressively shades a lot you get used to it after some time.

honestly I'm not sure about my vote anymore since poly simply didn't care, but again don't think wabbit is a better wagon

what I saw was an unnatural RVS and a lack of contribution that I think it's obvious if you read his iso, but if you take metas into account then idk...
he also has a question from me left unanswered

Here's hello/Flake protesting the Wabbit wagon:

Hellosither wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
Hellosither wrote:
Hellosither wrote:my gut tells me that a polypies lynch is not a good idea.

mainly what i mean by this is that i think the progression today has not been in favor of polypies - i think they've remained a likely lynch candidate for almost all of day 1 and i dont think mafia would be ok with allowing that. i think they would make polypies change their behavior.

okay, you're correct in that there is not much resistance to the poly wagon, unlike there is to the Wabbit wagon
/vote Wabbit
see where this goes
also I'm not 100% here bc I'm playing Drawful with friends but I'll try to read the thread

They had Same amount of votes.

votes dont mean everything. not that im particularly a fan of a wabbit lynch either.

Exhibit B:
I said 'go read again' because your interpretation of what I'm doing is completely bullshit and even though I've explained the rationale behind my Wabbit vote multiple times, you're hell bent on ignoring whatever I say.

kosmo16 wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:/vote kosmo

do something or be yeeted

Hmm, Im doing Elusive impersonations. Fine I will do sth soon. Like read the thread.

Sparking is Town, Lemon is likely scum. Not sure about HelloShiter.

aight

3cheersforidiots wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
Hellosither wrote:so... since im mafia i guess i will vote my self?

/vote Hellosither

town????
somebody help me

how is that ti

would you vote yourself after repeatedly exclaiming you're scum if you were actually scum?

edit: and you were not Flake

I just remembered I posted this D1
hilarious

Hellosither wrote:im flake btw, bored of typing weirdly

hypo: Jabichuelas - Cit

prodging till eod2 bye losers

omegalul

/vote kosmo

do something or be yeeted

SparkingJayYT wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
Hellosither wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
Hellosither wrote:
Hellosither wrote:my gut tells me that a polypies lynch is not a good idea.

mainly what i mean by this is that i think the progression today has not been in favor of polypies - i think they've remained a likely lynch candidate for almost all of day 1 and i dont think mafia would be ok with allowing that. i think they would make polypies change their behavior.

okay, you're correct in that there is not much resistance to the poly wagon, unlike there is to the Wabbit wagon
/vote Wabbit
see where this goes
also I'm not 100% here bc I'm playing Drawful with friends but I'll try to read the thread

(resistance vs no resistance)

i dont really get what 3cheers meant by this. there wasnt much resistance to a Wabbit wagon either, even if there was more than the polypies wagon.

there were some people who called the Wabbit wagon bullshit and bad right off the bat
there was none of that when the poly wagon started to kick off

Do you think cred should be given to people who went against Wabbit lynch?
I have conflicting thoughts of scum would be more opportunistic to lynch Wabbit over Poly but if both wagons are TvT then can be a ploy to make the wagons more tense.
not really, because they were either a) voting poly, or b) didn't make an effort to start another wagon, except for dota, who already flipped v
3cheersforidiots wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:hypoing nea

Lemon - Not cit.

wtf is this hypo sparking. like i don't want to explain it in case wolves are inexperienced, but like bruh.

I think it's either sparking/lemon not w/w or an attempt to distance if both are scum

I don't understand this w/w read at all.

I'm assuming that a not-cit hypo is an indirect way to put somebody in your PoE

or it is the result I got
to put it into your own words, 'assuming that you're real Nea'

responses in purple

UzayAltay wrote:
3cheers wrote:-snip-

there were some people who called the Wabbit wagon bullshit and bad right off the bat
there was none of that when the poly wagon started to kick off
-snip

Who is This "some people"?

3cheersforidiots wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:@3cheers can You give me A defense to me?

what kind of defence do you want me to provide, and to what points of yours?

3cheersforidiots wrote:-snip-

UzayAltay wrote:/vote 3cheers

In my opinion, them flipping from Poly to Wabbit in The way they Did was Scummy.

Reason of Poly scumread: an actual scumread
Reason of flip: no pressure against Poly wagon

go read again

good thing is, Crimson/Uzay almost never w/w here, so I think I'll keep my vote on Crimson
lemon might also be a good vote for today imo

(this is like, unless Sparking/Uzay are making absolute fools out of the entire town)

UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:Is there any case on Poly?

their reads are sheepy and the rest of their posts are fluffy
I think they did recognise their posting as bad but didn't really make an attempt to improve on it

(An actual scumread)

3cheersforidiots wrote:
Hellosither wrote:
Hellosither wrote:my gut tells me that a polypies lynch is not a good idea.

mainly what i mean by this is that i think the progression today has not been in favor of polypies - i think they've remained a likely lynch candidate for almost all of day 1 and i dont think mafia would be ok with allowing that. i think they would make polypies change their behavior.

okay, you're correct in that there is not much resistance to the poly wagon, unlike there is to the Wabbit wagon
/vote Wabbit
see where this goes
also I'm not 100% here bc I'm playing Drawful with friends but I'll try to read the thread

(resistance vs no resistance)

That was Last point of argument, which You didnt answered.

so swapping to a different wagon because you think the top wagon is likely to flip town is scummy?

Hellosither wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
cob709 wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
cob709 wrote:
polypies73 wrote:ah yes my favourite period of time when all the Americans are sleeping.

bold of you to assume i sleep

*pretend to sleep

hey cob who is your top 2 townreads and top 2 scumreads, no reasons needed

top 2 townreads 3cheers, and jabi
top 2 scumreads Hello and kosmo

jabi is helping provide meaningful insight
3cheers is helping discuss the end of D1 and the wagons
kosmo and Hello have been pasting short sentences after a long quote

now that is spicy

there is a difference between spicy and hypocritical & bad.

hypocritical & bad is a subalignment of spicy

lemonader666 wrote:WHY THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE HYPOCLAIMING

you're not the first one to ask this question

/unvote

for now, I want to see some progression from kosmo and lemon specifically

UzayAltay
SparkingJayYT
Jabichuelas
lemonader666
Crimson97
polypies73
HelloSither
ScarredSamurai
kosmo16
cob709

out of PoE bracket for now: [Jabi, hello, cob, poly]

UzayAltay
SparkingJayYT
lemonader666
Crimson97
ScarredSamurai
kosmo16

Crimson is not w/w with Sparking/Uzay, can be scum with Samurai/lemon/kosmo (though this last one is questionable)

Crimson97 wrote:Let's assume poly is town.

Likely scum in here (Jabichuelas, ScarredSamurai, UzayAltay). Now that'd be problematic tbh cause 2/3 of those people are widely townread.

this is interesting though

Sparking not w/w with Crimson, probably lemon, can be scum with kosmo/Uzay/Samurai

SparkingJayYT wrote:v: Cob, Kosmo, Uzay, Poly (??), Samurai

this is also an interesting post, following a reply to Samurai that basically said 'your read is bad'

kosmo's ISO is absolutely barren, but here goes: probably not scum with Crimson (unless legendary bus attempt on D1 lol), can be scum with anyone else

Samurai probably not w/w with lemon/Crimson? (but then later questions scumreads on them and a tr on Uzay

), can comfortably be wolves with Sparking/kosmo
kinda weird progression and tunnel on poly ngl

lemon's ISO is exactly as barren as kosmo's but even worse in content - the only meaningful interaction there is with Samurai, which slightly hints at not w/w

it's at this point that I have an issue, because there are many not w/w interactions with Crimson, so much so that there's no meaningful 3-man scumteam there
also I can't be bothered to get into Uzay's ISO

lemon definitely a suspect here, though he is a fairly low-hanging fruit
(Sparking/Uzay/kosmo) scumteam is possible as well, I guess, and you can potentially throw in Samurai
if Crimson is scum, it's very likely he's scum with lemon, but unsure who else could be in that team (unless my out of PoE bracket is wrong)

hypoing hello cit, by the way

solving attempt coming soon

UzayAltay wrote:@3cheers can You give me A defense to me?

what kind of defence do you want me to provide, and to what points of yours?

Spoiler:

kosmo16 wrote:cob is likely scum pretending to not knowing how to play to have easier life

I find that it's difficult for new players to pretend something like this

Hellosither wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
Hellosither wrote:
Hellosither wrote:my gut tells me that a polypies lynch is not a good idea.

mainly what i mean by this is that i think the progression today has not been in favor of polypies - i think they've remained a likely lynch candidate for almost all of day 1 and i dont think mafia would be ok with allowing that. i think they would make polypies change their behavior.

okay, you're correct in that there is not much resistance to the poly wagon, unlike there is to the Wabbit wagon
/vote Wabbit
see where this goes
also I'm not 100% here bc I'm playing Drawful with friends but I'll try to read the thread

(resistance vs no resistance)

i dont really get what 3cheers meant by this. there wasnt much resistance to a Wabbit wagon either, even if there was more than the polypies wagon.

there were some people who called the Wabbit wagon bullshit and bad right off the bat
there was none of that when the poly wagon started to kick off

Hellosither wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
Hellosither wrote:
Hellosither wrote:my gut tells me that a polypies lynch is not a good idea.

mainly what i mean by this is that i think the progression today has not been in favor of polypies - i think they've remained a likely lynch candidate for almost all of day 1 and i dont think mafia would be ok with allowing that. i think they would make polypies change their behavior.

okay, you're correct in that there is not much resistance to the poly wagon, unlike there is to the Wabbit wagon
/vote Wabbit
see where this goes
also I'm not 100% here bc I'm playing Drawful with friends but I'll try to read the thread

They had Same amount of votes.

yes, but while no one really contested the piling of votes on poly, there were some people going up against Wabbit as soon as started to take off

@Hello that was their explanation

i do not remember people being against a wabbit lynch to any significant extent. there was also little resistance at end of day 1.

then your perception of what happened D1 is different from my perception of what happened D1

Crimson97 wrote:3cheers is interesting cause they were in both wagons. Don't really know what to think about them, though i find Sparking's case on Wabbit to not be that convincing, especially if you had a TR on Wabbit like 3cheers did.

from your pov, sure
from my pov, it's an entirely different thing

SparkingJayYT wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:hypoing nea

Lemon - Not cit.

wtf is this hypo sparking. like i don't want to explain it in case wolves are inexperienced, but like bruh.

I think it's either sparking/lemon not w/w or an attempt to distance if both are scum

I don't understand this w/w read at all.

I'm assuming that a not-cit hypo is an indirect way to put somebody in your PoE

3cheersforidiots wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:I have more TRs than I expected and literally have a pool of:
[Hello / Lemon / Crimson / 3Cheers] lul

time to look over my tr's ig

that's....
weird
why is hello in there?

Why should I tr them? :Thonk:

[/quote]
I was convinced this was your scum PoE

SparkingJayYT wrote:Some not w/w reads in [Hello / Crimson / 3cheers / Lemon]
- Hello/Uzay not w/w
- Crimson/Uzay not w/w
- 3cheers/Uzay not w/w

If 3/4 of my non TRs are entirely wrong I'll accept defeat but for now I'm putting Uzay as a high TR.

- Hello/Kosmo not w/w (hesitant, Kosmo making an unexplained push on Hello then retracting it later for being forgetful would be a weird distance)
- 3cheers/Kosmo not w/w (3cheers pushing Kosmo for not explaining their read doesn't ping w/w)

- Hello/Crimson not w/w
- Hello/Cob not w/w (discrediting me saying Cob is v for not looking like they were being coached)

I was going to compare with every player but I am lazy so have this for now.

Crimson/lemon scumteam is still possible based on this

cob709 wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
Crimson97 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:Crimson why do you think scum are clowns that would let town make and control all the pushes until EoD.

Bruh in the KH FM that just ended you guys left 2 mafia members sit as top wagons for half the day. The only scum pushing in the top wagons was Chemist while you were clowning around with Cenvil the whole day. Then when it was obvious Chemist was gonna get lynched Uzay and Jackson decided to start pushing for a town top wagon.

Elusive wagon existed by at least mid day lol, and I made a case against Cenvil at least 10 hours before EoD.

They were both minor wagons until EoD when Uzay voted and then i voted. Same here, we had Hello's wagon for a long time, and other 1 vote wagons.

I feel like leading wagons is a scummy move for mafia to lynch townies.

I think wagons are a bad idea because mafia would support mislynches and resist mafia lynches.

well, yes, that's usually how a game of mafia goes
can you draw any conclusions based on this? Who is town, who is mafia based on wagon movement?

cob709 wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
polypies73 wrote:
cob709 wrote:
polypies73 wrote:ah yes my favourite period of time when all the Americans are sleeping.

bold of you to assume i sleep

*pretend to sleep

hey cob who is your top 2 townreads and top 2 scumreads, no reasons needed

top 2 townreads 3cheers, and jabi
top 2 scumreads Hello and kosmo

jabi is helping provide meaningful insight
3cheers is helping discuss the end of D1 and the wagons
kosmo and Hello have been pasting short sentences after a long quote

now that is spicy

actually though, I kinda want to have Uzay see my flip so that I can tell him to fuck off with his metareads

will analyse Crimson in more detail later, I still have irl stuff I need to take care of

behold my fresh and crispy spoilers

Spoiler:

SP

/vote Crimson
Think this vote is a good start, will catch up later

UzayAltay wrote:
3cheersforidiots wrote:
Hellosither wrote:
Hellosither wrote:my gut tells me that a polypies lynch is not a good idea.

mainly what i mean by this is that i think the progression today has not been in favor of polypies - i think they've remained a likely lynch candidate for almost all of day 1 and i dont think mafia would be ok with allowing that. i think they would make polypies change their behavior.

okay, you're correct in that there is not much resistance to the poly wagon, unlike there is to the Wabbit wagon
/vote Wabbit
see where this goes
also I'm not 100% here bc I'm playing Drawful with friends but I'll try to read the thread

They had Same amount of votes.

yes, but while no one really contested the piling of votes on poly, there were some people going up against Wabbit as soon as started to take off

Hellosither wrote:
Hellosither wrote:my gut tells me that a polypies lynch is not a good idea.

mainly what i mean by this is that i think the progression today has not been in favor of polypies - i think they've remained a likely lynch candidate for almost all of day 1 and i dont think mafia would be ok with allowing that. i think they would make polypies change their behavior.

okay, you're correct in that there is not much resistance to the poly wagon, unlike there is to the Wabbit wagon
/vote Wabbit
see where this goes
also I'm not 100% here bc I'm playing Drawful with friends but I'll try to read the thread

UzayAltay wrote:Wait
Is not trusted users Also Dont have countdown tag?
Pog.

p sure Manatee is a trusted user

bruh moment

ManateeDude wrote:polypies73|3|Jabichuelas, ScarredSamurai,3cheersforidiots;HelloSither|2| polypies73, UzayAltay;UzayAltay|1|TheWabbit;ScarredSamurai|1|lemonader666;TheWabbit|3|Crimson97, SparkingJayYT, kosmo16;Crimson97|1|dota2reporter

Not Voting: cob709, HelloSither

oh he didn't
cool

inb4 Manatee forgets my vote again and I'm paranoid
/vote poly

UzayAltay wrote:Do We have a VC?

Sparking's makeshift VC implies there are 4 votes on Wabbit and 3 on poly (methinks)

Town of Salem Game Forums

Search found 220 matches

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 2

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Re: VC1.05

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1

Re: VFM70 | Manatees (pt. 2) | Day 1