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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

fun fact, flake died just when I was about to start TRing him
by ejjinami
Sun May 19, 2019 8:23 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

/vote tfio
by ejjinami
Sun May 19, 2019 8:21 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Sigh, let me post a bit since I can’t sleep anyway

I’ve done some re-reading and I think I might have changed my opinion about a lot of things
[Chemist, Grumpy] (+ 99% not mafia)
[Zuck, Qvap]
[rick > Debil > tfio]

Chemist’s interactions are terrible, but I genuinely believe he wouldn’t have forgotten about dash’s slip if he were scum.
As mafia, even if he did, his teammates would have reminded him of it. (and if the slip was fake, would have noticed it and lock-towned Chem BEFORE I did it in my incredibly late catchup)
In short, chemist cannot be mafia.
SK is possible, but honestly, I think he might just be town.

And Grumpy’s interactions are great. I wasn’t so sure of it before, but I really, really doubt they would have voted cupcake the way they did if they were buddies with him.
GrumpyGoomba wrote:Well being pissed does not really warrant a lynch on the person you are pissed at now does it? That's just policy lynching if I remember that right.

This ^ is also a very townie reaction.
It couldn’t have been faked because of how fast it came after the post it responded to.
So same as chemist, while them being SK is possible, I think they should just be town.

Those 2 are my top reads now.

I still think I’m TRing Zuck and Qvap, but both of them have gone down significantly.
Zuck because he’s unreasonable, has bad interactions and I can’t even bring myself to read his posts.

And I remember hard-TRing Qvap D1 because of activity and his general attitude. This TR has faded slightly, mainly because of awful interactions with cup and because of the drop in townie posting, but I still think he should be more likely town than scum.

So now, it comes down to tfio, Debil and Rick.
Frankly, I haven’t tried reading rick yet, so I’ll save my opinion for after I do that.
And I liked neither proto’s nor tfio’s posting. In tfio’s case, mainly because of interactions.
by ejjinami
Sun May 19, 2019 8:21 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

0verki11 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
ejjinami wrote:is the lynch plurality or majority?

@0verki11

Both, if you reach the majority before the day ends the day ends, if you do not reach majority before the day ends the person with the highest amount of votes are lynched, ties are resolved by whoever reaches the number first

thx
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 3:57 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

which mafia are you?
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 3:50 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

cupcakeaj2 wrote:Yass

Ejji is suspicious for distancing

hi there, wanna chat?
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 3:50 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

ejjinami wrote:is the lynch plurality or majority?

@0verki11
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 3:38 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

and is the lynch plurality or majority?
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:51 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Flake wrote:Someone unvote now

will you be here again before EoD?
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:51 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Flake wrote:I’m really busy right now but I’m just gonna make some quick comments, sorry if I am dodging people but I don’t have time to make lengthy arguments and stuff

Ejji my sudden shift in now believing you are not mafia is because you overlooked dash’s redcheck on cupcake, implying you were very likely not in a mafia chat, it is possible that you faked this or mafia just didn’t make the comment in mafia chat, but I doubt it

Same goes for Zucker

Tfios I am relatively unsure on, but I think they actually flip town for being blunt, but that is an uncertain read

Most of my meta reads make complete sense imo, namely the ones on proto and tfios, I’m not seeing how they are shitty at all, I think they are indiciative to at least some extent

K, you can answer later if you want to.
My point was: you were reading me as SK and a big part of your reads on me seemed to be unrelated to my specific alignment, while now because of me not being mafia appear to have lost all interest altogether. Why am I not SK?
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:51 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

UzayAltay wrote:
ejjinami wrote:now that I think of it, @uzay, you seemed to be TRing Crimson a bit more than SRing, so why exactly did you end up voting him?

:Thonk:
Are you sure you read it correct?
Pretty sure it is Not close to the case.
UzayAltay wrote:#3168007#3169004: Weird entire posts, first one is a bit concerning. He isnt experienced like Crimson or Seth, but this isnt a meta like tfios as i know. TBH i want to classify this same with Crimson, but if Wè exclude read looking, they are different, but from read Wise it is same with Crimson , it give me Weird vibe, but cant exactly tell "this is scummy "

#3168026 , feels geniune.
#3168032 , tbh seems geniune on one hand, when but at the other hand seems off.

Last Post : (PS -also includes cooments about their vote on me )
Pro -v , include 2 reads (më +dash )
About their vote, it dont seem geniune to me, seems like a memevote but we Arent in memephase and He also didn't acted like in memephase much.

OFF, didn’t check all links, I assumed the whole post was about crimson, when it was about cup…
nvm. I think I have to revise my reads then
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:49 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

wait, wrong quote
I thought you were quoting your own post, lol

it still doesn't matter though
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:47 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

UzayAltay wrote:
Flake wrote:I’m really busy right now but I’m just gonna make some quick comments, sorry if I am dodging people but I don’t have time to make lengthy arguments and stuff

Ejji my sudden shift in now believing you are not mafia is because you overlooked dash’s redcheck on cupcake, implying you were very likely not in a mafia chat, it is possible that you faked this or mafia just didn’t make the comment in mafia chat, but I doubt it

Same goes for Zucker

Tfios I am relatively unsure on, but I think they actually flip town for being blunt, but that is an uncertain read

Most of my meta reads make complete sense imo, namely the ones on proto and tfios, I’m not seeing how they are shitty at all, I think they are indiciative to at least some extent


Yes, ejj, Will you say sth?

I was counting votes, let me quote.
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:46 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Current VC

Cupcake (6) Dash2, GrumpyGoomba, Chemist1422, Flake, Rickdaily12, tfiosforevah
Chemist1422 (1) Zucker
Flake (1) cupcakeaj2

That's L-1.
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:45 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Flake, can you actually respond to my questions and the stuff I said about you?
meaning: the read on tfio, grumpy, you provoking rick, my response to your SR

You changing your mind about me being mafia means nothing. Prior to your MvM idea about me and rick, you seemed to be reading me as SK, so why exactly are you acting as if I’m town now?
Besides, no offense, but I find your demeanour incredibly irritating. You push and TR a lot of people, but at the same time a lot of your reads are based on shitty, undependable meta arguments and stuff that can easily be faked. You don’t also seem to think very much before posting and often seem to notice only those explanations, which can give you a read, while completely ignoring everything else, which honestly, I don’t know if is just because of your temperament or because of you thinking that “you don’t have to think, because being loud is enough”.
My point is, talk to me. You’re not the only person trying to read people here and honestly, I have no intentions of acting like a saint and assuming that all of my pushes were wrong just because you don’t think they’re important enough to answer.

same with chemist.
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=99445&start=1575#p3171943
and with grumpy
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=99445&start=1600#p3172057

I shouldn’t have needed to write all of that.
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:23 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

off topic
@uzay, are you posting on mobile or on PC?
if on PC, have you considered downloading an app that checks for grammar/spelling mistakes? Google “grammarly” or sth
I don’t actually remember which app I’m using, but I think it has helped me A LOT. :P
so you know, I absolutely recommend you to try sth like that out as well.
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:05 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

now that I think of it, @uzay, you seemed to be TRing Crimson a bit more than SRing, so why exactly did you end up voting him?
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:04 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Flake’s read change on Tfio seems natural.


Rickdaily12 wrote:I was completely wrong about this weekend getting any easier on me. It's not going to. I'm really sorry, guys.
/vote cupcake
It's basically hell from now until Monday. I'll try to pop on when I can between work and family, and if I can't commit, I might have to replace out.
Right now, assuming Dash is actually Cop (because I have every reason to believe this and no reason not to), three more scum remain. I still think the entry between Flake and Chemist was odd and didn't look like TvT to me when I first looked at it.
My strongest Town reads after Dash are probably Qvapil and Ejj. Goomba has also improved just on quick skimming. Zucker is Town or dies fairly soon if he isn't based on EoD yesterday. Everyone else is null or worse or could be Town but has something questionable in my mind right now.
I didn't want to end the day without my vote or without at least giving my take on the very general of it all. If I have time before EoD I'll try expanding on this some more.

it’s ok, take your time
I think I remember 0ver saying that the day starts early in the morning for him, so I think fair chances are that either the day-end or day-start will be delayed for a few hours.
don’t replace out ):

Flake wrote:Makes sense why I'd be kept alive if that were the case
If my D1 reads were decent I think I'd be dead

honestly, based on the way people reacted to dash, he should have been killed before you and way before Eragon/phone, regardless of your reads.
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 2:01 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Qvapil wrote:
Flake wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Oh I get it. Thanks, you're being really helpful.

is it just me that finds this fake

Dude are you being serious? I asked a question, uzay answered and I fucking thanked him. I think you're looking at this with confirmation bias to justify my place in your scumteams.
By the way, what are your thoughts on ejji's vca megapost? They argued pretty convincingly in favour of uzay, who you are against, and in general the points they presented differed from your pools of possible scum.

you're overreacting, it's not the first time Flake has reacted in a way that (often objectively) doesn't make sense and it’s not like this one was even that bad. I find it funny how everyone seems to notice it only when it concerns them and completely ignore it when it doesn’t.
and since you asked about it, what’s your read on me?
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 1:47 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

I'm a page-top god

and hi cup
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 1:41 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Chemist1422 wrote:yes I'm mafia with flake and proto seth caught us and is an fm god /s
Seth you haven't given a single reason for anything you've said at all this game and it really needs to stop

^^^^^^^^^

------------------

@ tfio, have your reads changed in any way after the cop claim?

Flake wrote: I believe proto to be town

If I understood it correctly, your read on proto is based on scum!him sometimes making “serious posts” in order to appear townie. Tbh I really doubt you should have been able to confidently read him based on his first few posts, but ok. How confident are you in that read?
by ejjinami
Sat May 18, 2019 1:41 pm
 
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Topic: VFM 49: SK win #rekt
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

GrumpyGoomba wrote:I wonder if I truly would've put this much focus on me being the sk if I actually were sk...

Anyways nope you are wrong. Swap me for ejj and that's a go on the scums.

elaborate on your read on me
Flake wrote:if cupcake actually didn't read his rolecard up until the end

ejjinami wrote:
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Hmmmm

Let's look at more ISOs.

just read the damn game, please.


ejjinami wrote:
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Idea: Don't look at your rolecard until N1

@0verki11 can I ask you to confirm that cupcake HAS ACTUALLY READ HIS ROLE-CARD?
Ask him to confirm privately or sth.
thx


these posts from ejji could be telling

Assuming he didn’t read his RC, do you really think if I were SvS with him, I’d have written that in the game thread instead of on discord? -_-
This is lv0 reasoning

and fuck, I’m starting to fall asleep while writing, it’s way too late even for my standards
I have just started reading page 61. Gonna finish it tomorrow
sorry for that

P.Edit:
Dash2 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Dash2 wrote:This is absolute chaos I'm about to replace out

hush, look at the puppies
[youtube.]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H4gzsw8MrU[/youtube]

Rapid Liquid = Instant Respect

Anyways I'm gonna try and do something for a few minutes. I'm really trying my hardest to get stuff done but it's my graduation weekend aaaaaaa

/pat xd
by ejjinami
Fri May 17, 2019 8:43 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Dash2 wrote:This is absolute chaos I'm about to replace out

hush, look at the puppies


compared to some games that have run here lately, I don’t think this one is that bad tbh

Dash2 wrote:I'm just caving in now because you know what I'm probably gonna die tonight anyway and at this point you've all drained my patience.

Some of you may have noticed I've been focusing a lot on cupcake today and finding possible associations with him. This is because I am the cop and I checked him last night. Guess what? He turned out to be mafia.

I kinda figured it’d be sth like that based on the way people reacted to my posts, but still, nice :0

The day hasn’t ended yet, so I’m assuming it’s intentional.
Actually, I’d prefer it that way anyway, I think.
Let me catch up first xd
by ejjinami
Fri May 17, 2019 8:02 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=99445&start=1425#p3171380
/pat ):


Rickdaily12 wrote: Spoiler: Flake, I'm sorry, but no. There are pairings of Mafia teams that would certainly not be able to pull some kind of "slip" tactic in the thread on the fly, certainly, but if your argument is that you and Chemist don't have the skill set to pull this off, don't even bother. You don't qualify for this premise.

You and Chemist are two skilled players who I think wouldn't be afraid to attempt something like this if you put yourselves up to it. If your argument is that "it's too difficult to fake" and that "it's too genuine for people at our skill level", it's never going to fly with me, and I don't care how hard you try to dispute this, you're not going to convince me when I know that you and Chemist are smart enough to make something like this work.

Is my take wrong on this? Possibly. But if your argument revolves around difficulty and skill level between you and Chemist, then it's a pretty shitty argument.

Adding this, since it's relevant:

Flake wrote:To people who think mine and chemist's interaction is orchestrated

In what world does Mafia come up with

"hey chem, you make a fake slip by including someone who dies you out on it, i'll deepwolf and call you outed scum because i'll say i think you make the slip on someone specifically rather than you knowing the possibility that it could be a slip but not being bothered to remove the slip after the flip of the someone who dies, but then i'll realise it's actually you just knowing the possibility it could be a slip pre-flip and do a completee 180 on you"

like can you all use your brains for a bit

NO ONE ORCHESTRATES THIS AS MAFIA EVER

NO ONE COMES UP WITH THAT PLAN

How about, the same world where Mafia!Chemist says this:

Chemist1422 wrote:Cool are we just gonna have everyone townslip


Everyone this game so far has literally spent the entire time talking about how this person or that person derped themselves into being called lock town so far. If I were Mafia in this game and I saw everyone narrowing down their PoE lists because of it, then yeah, I can see myself trying to fabricate something like this, and I can totally see other people doing it as Mafia too. This kind of scum theater would also serve a hell of a lot of purpose under the circumstances too. I don't see it going exactly the way you quoted it in the above (not unless you're the biggest troll literally ever and this is exactly how it went), but I can see it getting suggested no problem at all.

Flake, seriously, like how exactly do you plan on expecting us to believe that you wouldn't pull this off as scum because you don't have the skill for it?

I really like that post
by ejjinami
Fri May 17, 2019 7:51 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Flake wrote:i have a few reasons for thinking ejji is scum

early game comments on SK seem incredibly dubious with their comments on SK, and let's just say I also have an angleshot also alluding to the idea that they are SK or at least scum

You’re talking about me noticing that SK might not have been able to send their ability choice, right?
if so, no, I’m overly aware of the setup and host responsibilities because I’ve been hosting non-stop in here and on MS for around 2 months. It’s kinda difficult to get out of that mindset if you’ve done it for too long.
Flake wrote:they don't really seem to ever try to progress the game themselves; almost all their posts where "attempted progression" is made it's just asking people to elaborate on things constantly

that’s because it’s needed. It’s just the way I play, it’s not scummy.
You seem to have read my ISO from my last VFM and unless sth is seriously wrong with my memory, I’ve done that A LOT more there than here, so you SRing me for it is weird imo.

the rest is actually fair. I don’t think I have anything to say about that.
The way I play largely depends on my mood and on the game-progression, so I guess my posts might have been tonally differently in the game you checked. :/
/shrug
by ejjinami
Fri May 17, 2019 7:39 pm
 
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