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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Rickdaily12 wrote:2. Again, this wasn't a read. You're completely missing the context of the question asked. I don't have a read on Goomba- hindsight? He's null at very best to me.
The question addressed to me was: "Rick, what were your thoughts about the wagon on me?"
Between Goomba and Zucker, Zucker was the one trying harder to get Dash lynched. But yes, I absolutely despise the way he's been handling himself this game, and if you think this is me trying to push an easy mislynch and not trying to hear him out, I don't know what else I can tell you.

And actually, most of that makes sense. I assumed this was supposed to be a push on both Zucker and Grumpy, which felt incredibly iffy, especially interaction-vise… :/ I’m not so confident in this now…
Rickdaily12 wrote:Confidence is a sign of being Town, but refusal to address your mistakes in your posts and adjust yourself when confronted is just textbook VI. His post trying to set up the lynch between Dash and Flake so early into the game still pisses me off. He addresses this by pretty much saying "I'm certain that Dash is scum, but if he's Town we can just lynch Flake after" without addressing the case at all where both can be Town.

I don't dislike your reluctance to scum read him. I dislike your disapproval for my lack of Town reading him. I'm not going to reward bad behavior when there's real consequences for the bad ideas he's pushing, and it doesn't make it any easier for me to read him when he doesn't seem to care about issues people keep bringing up to him about his posts. If you're trying to convince me to Town read him, I don't think you have a basis to besides your gut, but right now, I don't agree.

The "Rick just wants the easy ML" bit also feels really extreme for what was going on here as well, and I'm not liking that jump either.

Let me repeat my read.
YES, Zuck’s reads are garbage. He seemed to want to convince others to vote with him, while being completely uninterested in making any sort of case, and pushed dash for a long time, with ridiculous, unexplained confidence without rescinding or weakening his reads even after people started SRing him for it.
Funnily enough he kept “role/alt playing” (faking his tone and talking in 3’rd person just for shits and giggles) for the majority of the time, which makes his posts look tonally off, but probably implies that he thought “everything he’s done till now is ok and there’s no reason to worry”.
Can we agree that considering how nearly everyone reacted negatively to his reads and NO ONE seemed to want to sheep him, he HAD TO be aware that his actions make him look bad?

I haven’t seen seth play scum, but as town he seemed to care A LOT about the game and everything that happens around him, so I really doubt he’d suddenly stop doing that just because of rolling scum. He should have cared about people’s reads on him, he should have noticed and he should have changed his behavior as scum, because “looking townie” should be sth he gave a shit about.

I can see him shrugging off the SRs and acting ignorant as town though, especially if he really believed his read and didn’t care much about anything else.


The has nothing to do with “rewarding bad behavior”. YES, his posts are bad, but regardless if his strategy is good or not, it doesn’t change the fact that if there’s no scum-motivation for him doing that, it’s probably townie. You can call it TSTBS if you want to.

The read is absolutely not based on gut and honestly, I have no idea how did you even come to that conclusion after reading my posts.
If you think his behavior might come from either alignment and shouldn’t be TR in any way, talk to me about his scum motivation first.
by ejjinami
Tue May 14, 2019 1:41 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Rickdaily12 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:You can take my claim seriously, or not, either way i never know how to enter so the naturalness doesn’t really indicate my alignment lol

I wish tfios didn't approach every game exactly like this.
sigh.gif

this feels like reverse-shade… if it even makes sense

Rickdaily12 wrote:I STILL don't like his acknowledge to Dash at the very end that his posting quality was bad..

Why?
by ejjinami
Tue May 14, 2019 1:41 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Actually, forget what I said about cupcake, my previous read on him makes no damn sense.
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Oh ok then
Yeah I think Zucker = alt
Also he's literally "I don't like these things but I don't want to explain why"
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Hmmmm
Let's look at more ISOs.
ejjinami wrote:
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Hmmmm
Let's look at more ISOs.
just read the damn game, please.
cupcakeaj2 wrote:I did.
And everybody said everything I was going to say.

He has clearly no idea how to contribute
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Let's support more suspicious and horrible reads

To random vote or to not random vote?

/vote Uzay

cupcakeaj2 wrote:I like Uzay as well, doing a lot of explained reads and whatever you call this, it's not planning but meh:
UzayAltay wrote:snip

Yeah, I voted him. Don't ask.

And upon re-read, the read on uzay makes no sense. Honestly, I don’t even remember why I liked it in the first place, he just seems frozen. Voting a TR, when he has nearly no reads makes no sense from town’s pov.
I’m starting to feel he might just be scum, has no idea what to do and voted uzay because he (understandably) doesn’t give a crap about acting on his reads.

cupcakeaj2 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:I'm trying to learn from my last game, and I think it's more telling to look at those who capitalise on others' questionable plays rather than those who misplay. That's why I'm against voting dash.

What. When did Dash capitalise, what. And that isn't a perfect science either.

And I don’t like his shade on Qvap.
by ejjinami
Tue May 14, 2019 1:19 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Dash2 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Assuming the SK is dead, mafia can just as easily use their cop to narrow down who is citizen and who is not, while the vig goes and shoots whoever

PFFFFFFFFFT XD
Oh god, this is too wrong to be fake
It’s possible that dash genuinely thought about that “before getting a scum RC” and is just repeating his pre-game thoughts, but the conversation feels sooooo natural…
The slip is pretty btw

Shit you caught me



haha! >:D
get rekt
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 5:25 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

[Qvap, dash]

[phone, uzay, zucker]
[eragon, cupcake]
[crimson, chemist, tfios, Flake, ProtoZigg]
[rick]
[Grumpy]

[]
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 5:21 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

@0ver
can you.... maybe... post a VC........? please? :3



P.Edit:
I don't have time to read that xd
timezones suck, gtg

and well, I was going to post it later, but I have to go to sleep and I tend to forget about stuff like that, so I just wanted to say that cupcake’s read on uzay seems townie. Sure, wifom, but I still like it.
And it’s most definitely not SvS
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 5:20 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

ok. I don't have much time left either

can you tell me what you think about grumpy? and why did you vote uzay if you're TRing him?
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 5:05 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Flake wrote:{Flake} Town
{Dash2} ++++
{} +++
{Phone0Ix} ++
{tfiosforevah, Qvapil, UzayAltay, Zucker, ejjinami} +
{Chemist1422, Eragon1329, ProtoZigg, Crimson97, cupcakeaj2, GrumpyGoomba} Null (Approximately 50% chance of scum flip)
{Rickdaily12} -
{} --
{} ---
{} ----
{} Scum

Why is Qvap lower than Phone? And elaborare on the reads on rick and Grumpy, please.

P.Edit: saw the next post…. Ok, I guess

Does that mean you want to lynch rick today? If so, why aren’t you voting him. If no, who else do you want to lynch?

cupcakeaj2 wrote:Oh ok then

Yeah I think Zucker = alt

Also he's literally "I don't like these things but I don't want to explain why"

Does that mean you’re SRing him?
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 5:02 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Eragon1329 wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:I only just realized that I can't meta read you for shit and this is our first ever game together...

Craaaaaaaaaaap. D:


imo

Ejji is really...

like bleeding towny when they are town
thats my experience in 2 of my games with them on MS

I discourage you from using that meta :/
The forums are not the same, the amount of time to write posts is not the same and the players here often make it really fucking difficult to do anything.
I have to say I feel really good about the game rn though xD
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 5:00 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Eragon1329 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote: Spoiler: Fist raised, you could cause a reaction
Ain't nobody gonna fuck with me (fuck with me)
I can tell by the way that you're acting
And we could both agree
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya'
I mix pain with a little satisfaction
They go together all the same to be
I'm just tryna stay ahead of the action
And we could both agree
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I smile but there's blood in my reflection
There's violence in the poetry (poetry)
When it's over, there's no resurrection
At least for you and me
I never felt so low
But I love the way I look, yeah
With this bloody nose
Look how many hits it took ya
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I march on, just like violence
Today, I'll break the silence
Feels good, be compliant
Do you see me when you close your eyelids
Today I'ma get back up
Fists raised, let's get close up
Your life won't be so rough
Get the fuck up, 'cause we've had enough
Here we lay
In our final hours, like dying flowers
The price we pay
As you struggle for power that your ego devours (ego devours)
Here I go down this broken road
My smile still shows through my bloody nose
Still, I go (ooh)
Still, I go (ooh)
Yeah, I go (ooh)
I march on, just like violence
Today, I'll break the silence
Feels good, be compliant
Do you see me when you close your eyelids


Eragon
There was some good times when You just post sth Like This as town .
But later You started to post This as every alignment
This lose their furction
So , what's The reason of keep posting these ?



:ThinkEyes: :ThinkEyes:

maybe

just maybe

because I want to post it

because its fun

?

you literally did the same thing with a picture of a cat that I posted for like, no reason
and ur like "whats the meaning with this"
>literally a cat picture

Spoiler: Image
Hahahaha, I still remember that xD
I wasn’t in the game, but oh god, my eyes nearly popped out of my head when reading it
hahahha
Eragon1329 wrote:Crimson's... erm... eh eh... entrance

Eragon1329 wrote:Crimson's... erm... eh eh... entrance

Eragon1329 wrote:Crimson's... erm... eh eh... entrance

erm... uh... well... Yes.
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:59 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

tfiosforevah wrote:You can take my claim seriously, or not, either way i never know how to enter so the naturalness doesn’t really indicate my alignment lol

Who do you think is scum?
Dash2 wrote:and before you ask

tfiosforevah wrote:You can take my claim seriously, or not, either way i never know how to enter so the naturalness doesn’t really indicate my alignment lol

  • self meta
  • this kind of post doesn't make sense from town perspective
  • what even is this honestly

Elaborate on the 2-nd one, please.
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:55 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Dash2 wrote:Assuming the SK is dead, mafia can just as easily use their cop to narrow down who is citizen and who is not, while the vig goes and shoots whoever

PFFFFFFFFFT XD
Oh god, this is too wrong to be fake
It’s possible that dash genuinely thought about that “before getting a scum RC” and is just repeating his pre-game thoughts, but the conversation feels sooooo natural…
The slip is pretty btw
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:52 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

cupcakeaj2 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Hmmmm

Let's look at more ISOs.

just read the damn game, please.


I did.

And everybody said everything I was going to say.

what were you going to say?
which posts do you agree with?
do you have any reads???
cupcakeaj2 wrote:Let's support more suspicious and horrible reads

To random vote or to not random vote?

/vote Uzay

elaborate
and the previous question still stands, do you have any other reads?
don't just list them, say a word or 2 about each, please.
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:48 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Zucker wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Also I've been TRing Qva for a while now


Same TBH.
Although their very townie in their scum game.
I believe them to be Town this game simply because their isn’t a “Maybe or weird Puppeting”
It’s a solid opinion they are giving which I think leads to them being Town.

can you link me to that? :3
Zucker wrote:Town Reads: Qva and Uzay
Scum Reads: at least one scum in Flake, Dash and Chemist.

Elaborate an all of those, except Qva, please.
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:46 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

cupcakeaj2 wrote:Hmmmm

Let's look at more ISOs.

just read the damn game, please.
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:43 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Setup phase

Flake wrote:"Mark Zuckerberg"

only iso missing is ejjinami's

OOF :c
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:43 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Zucker wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:Yeah, never mind. Zucker is definitely Seth, and that all about confirms that it's the case.

I'm definitely not impressed with his handling of the game so far, then. =/


Yeah I tend to brake character... ^_^

I just play like that though.
I read until I find a post I don’t like and go off on it and accuse that person.
What’s wrong with that play?
Doesn’t mean I’m not down to vote others but Dash is definitely not Town.

wait, are you actually confident in dash being scum?

Zucker wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Zucker wrote:
Dash2 wrote:guys let me know when zucker isn't being useless I'm blocking him now


Isn’t it illegal to block someone participating?

No


Seriously?
That seems game throwable.

that’s most definitely not SvS
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:42 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Bon bon Flake passes test, saying a thing he did could come from scum!Flake!

Flake feels townie

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

I was literally just about to bitch how he just self-metaed and you're rewarding him for doing this now

this is NAI 10000% and this response is just gross

do you think it’s scum-indicative?
Phone0Ix wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:Bon bon Flake passes test, saying a thing he did could come from scum!Flake!

Flake feels townie

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

I was literally just about to bitch how he just self-metaed and you're rewarding him for doing this now

this is NAI 10000% and this response is just gross

How is self-metaing scummy, and this was the other way around o.O
Like boom townread its bad because selfmeta

The response feels natural
Rickdaily12 wrote:If you want to TR Flake, there are absolutely reasons to do it, but this isn't one of them.

Elaborate on flake, please.
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:35 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Rickdaily12 wrote:

I LOVE YOU

Okay, so we're still waiting on two more people, then everyone's checked in.

by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:31 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

cupcakeaj2 wrote:Idea: Don't look at your rolecard until N1

@0verki11 can I ask you to confirm that cupcake HAS ACTUALLY READ HIS ROLE-CARD?
Ask him to confirm privately or sth.
thx
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:29 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Rickdaily12 wrote:Just quickly skimming back into the thread again, Goomba just seems like a bit of noise. Doesn't seem too opportunistic for me right now, or at least, I didn't see him taking any strong stance unless I'm skimming too hard. Normally this would be more annoying, but again, the game is still pretty fresh and I can forgive that sort of thing right now. I think Zucker has been a bit more opportunistic in comparison to Goomba as it stands.

:c
I absolutely disagree… I really don’t like that read
All of grumpy’s posts being fluff and them reading the thread, but only responding to stuff unrelated to scum-hunting should be scum-indicative, their posts are tonally bad and I see no reason to forgive that, regardless of how much time has passed.
And how the heck can Grumpy be opportunistic if he doesn’t push anyone at all?

Your stance makes no sense. I strongly disagree with the read and I really don’t like you pushing an alternative “easy ML” in the same post for no exact reason. Actually, it feels like you wrote about Grumpy not being opportunistic just so that you could start talking about Zucker. It makes little sense otherwise
Idk if I’m overthinking it, but oh god, I really, really, REALLY dislike that post.

I’m getting more and more tempted to lynch grumpy today…

Rickdaily12 wrote:Chemist, by the way, is it confirmed if Zucker is Seth? Even if it's Seth, I can't get behind thinking Seth has learned literally nothing in the time he's spent with us so far already. I feel like even if this really is him, his approach so far has been poor, even for him.

Regardless if Zucker is seth or not, you have to agree they don’t seem to be concerned about appearing townie.
They pushed dash with incredible confidence based on really shitty reasons and seemed to be happy to do so, even when people criticized/voted them for doing it. As I said before, I don’t see sth like that coming from scum often. They would have to be suicidal to intentionally push dash like that, which I think should be more likely to come from town.
Can you comment on that?
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 4:24 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Dash2 wrote:Phone is town

Why?
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 2:36 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Dash2 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:actually, do I know you? :/

probably not but I have seen your name before

how the heck? xD
I rarely even play here
but hey, it's not like I'll complain or anything :Praise:

By chance do you play on MU or MS?

a bit on MS... I don't remember playing with you there though
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 2:35 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

UzayAltay wrote:Dash V Zucker , I would just say it Don't seems to me SvS .
I want to see How it went for commenting More on that.

True, fair chances are that they are both town, I think

Dash2 wrote:So some things to note is how Goomba didn't do much until Flake started accusing me, and Zucker supposedly skipped until my response to Flake and only my posts as a catchup. Flake himself I'll be going into once I am on my laptop, but I have reason to believe at least one of these are scum.

Elaborate? I don’t really get it :/

Phone0Ix wrote: Spoiler:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:reasoning being because entry was wolfy

tfios entries are always similarly wolfy

nai

That's not gonna change my view

read openings of tfios in almost any game and you will see similar irrespective of alignment

Dash2 wrote:
Flake wrote:
Dash2 wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Uzay is town honestly

Why do you think so? Just curious.

Because he's being how he always is as town, plus nothing strikes me as scummy.

can you be a bit more specific

No

/vote Dash2

Lol now that's a bad vote. Dash's intentions to make posts like that feel like they have town motivation. And their vote also.

english? please? ):
I’m p sure it’s not my fault for not understanding the post this time. Reword it please
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 2:34 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

Dash2 wrote:
ejjinami wrote:actually, do I know you? :/

probably not but I have seen your name before

how the heck? xD
I rarely even play here
but hey, it's not like I'll complain or anything :Praise:
by ejjinami
Mon May 13, 2019 2:28 pm
 
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