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Nellyfox wrote:If you think Downie is doctor, why should we lynch him?

What do you propose?

Well, it's safe to say that none of the citizens are dying tonight, as that would make the Town's job easier. Nor will Downie die tonight, because he's the deciding factor in Mafia's survival post-Bomber.

I think we should lynch Downie to work out who's the remaining scum in the PR claimants, and force the Mafia's hand tonight. If Downie is town, Jacko and NotCalm are scum. If Downie is scum, Jacko likely isn't. NotCalm probably can't prove his claim beyond "questioning Salense".

Ideally tomorrow, our Investigatives have narrowed the pool of scum suspects in the Citizens.

Edit: Chillaxio meights. Anger will only inhibit our progress in any game of Mafia.

Spoiler: Town Invest-Alzar(Spy)
Town Protective-Santa07(BG)
Town Support-Murat1996(Escort)
Town Killing-ChubbyMooshroom9(Veteran)
Random Town-Retralmega(Investigator)
Random Town-ElusiveBelle(Investigator)
Random Town-JackoDerp(BG)
Citizen-Salense
Citizen-NellyFox
Citizen-VucubCaquix
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


Godfather-Cmitc1?
Mafia Tactical-EvilDeanius0(Blackmailer)
Random Mafia-(Janitor)
Random Mafia(Framer)

Witch-Ronit
Bomber-???
Arsonist-Leyva45

Downie, Jacko, and NotCalm are all competing for the same spot on the role list. 2 of them are scum.

It's a different story for the Citizens. Hippophant, Tilted, Jordarrian, Cmitc, and myself (5) contest 3 slots. Ideally, the two investigators confirm two tonight. Then, there's 3 fighting for one slot.

Once the Bomber is dead, this game should essentially be solved. Downie's lynch tells us the most in this situation.

What did Cmitc claim?

So Retral was visited by Deanius, and Cmitc was presumably framed. Who was roleblocked?

Also, Evil told us the information that "cleared" one of the protectives. Helping the town, or solidifying an alibi?

What the hell

There were only 3 visits seen by Alzar last night, if I recall correctly. There's no reason to send the Godfather when the Janitor can be sent instead. It's just the most efficient way to do things, especially with no intention to

Oh

Roleblocked mafia are not seen by spies. That changes some of my conclusions.

Tilted, nowhere in that post did I refer to anybody's reads. I'm dealing purely with what is on the table right now and outlining my thoughts. Where did this whole deal of "accusing Jacko" come from?

In all likelihood, the Mafia already knows the identity of the Bomber. With only two actually outed members(Deanius and essentially NotCalm), they still have a sizeable chance to win this and know it.

Godfather - ???
Mafia Tactical - Blackmailer - EvilDeanius01
Random Mafia - Framer - NotCalmYT
Random Mafia - Janitor - cmitc1

^I think that's what we're looking at. I believe that also explains the visits each night.

Nelly, when was the last time you played with Downie?

Are any of the Protective claimants actually clear?

A lot of the arguing on Downie right now regards bad play as opposed to scummy play. I think Downie will flip Doctor. I think the mafia is trying to push back the Bomber lynch to the final hour in order to give themselves the highest chance of success post Bomber-elimination.

Our viable scumteam here is looking to be Deanius, NotCalm, Cmitc(?), and somebody else. Out of all the suspects, I think TiltedComedian is the Bomber and one of the BG claimants is the remaining member of the Mafia. Swap it around if necessary.

Jordarrian was not outed as a citizen, so he could have been PR. His play is pretty universal(see: any other game of his). There's just no way that NotCalm is anything but Framer.

EvilDeanius0 wrote:Ladd was right. Being confirmed scum is exhilarating.

I know, right? It's probably the second most fun part of a game.

NotCalm was visited on a night he flipped framer. What if we have this inverted? What if NotCalm framed himself while Deanius tracked Jordarrian? There's literally no reason to waste an action just to deceive a Spy, especially with a Bomber looming in the distance.

Oh my lord, don't vote like so

I want to hear more from NotCalm about everybody in the game.

Yeah so I have my final final exam in like tomorrow

So when that's done and over, I'll report in. Even without my last few posts, I am still out of prod territory until tomorrow evening.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience.

I have a better plan. The investigatives look into the prptective claimants; at least one, perhaps two are liars. We lynch the liar in that bunch. The mafia still has a sizeable chance to win as soon as the Bomber kicks the bucket, so they cannot reasonably justify gamethrowing to grant a Bomber win, as the town does not have the game solved. In this way, we force the mafia to help us find the Bomber while maintaining control of the situation.

We can't let the clock advance on us. Ideally, we lynch either the Bomber or a member of the Mafia today. We CANNOT risk a mislynch, or we risk falling too far behind.

Realize that the mafia have literally no reason not to kill through 80% PRs and 20% cits

Santa do you realize how long that will take

And the mafia can just kill out of the PRs to make it worse

Downie's second-hardest pusher right now is Nelly.

Not yet, I need to still reread stuff

But basically:

ElusiveBelle cannot be a Consigliere. This does not clear him of being a member of the mafia.
If Downie flips town, Nelly is most likely to be scum.
If Elusive flips scum, Vucub is most likely to be Godfather.

If downie is town it locks two people as scum.

Downie. Quick tinfoil. Who is framing you specifically?

Oh my lord

Jordarrian wrote:So downie is either Janitor

Or Santa or JackoDerp is Mafioso

Impressive leaps in logic!