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Re: VFM 49: Day 3

TheDebil wrote:so, quick question for yall

do you think the wagon on cupcake d1 was pure

Depends

If by pure you mean no mafia then yes
If you mean no scum less sure there
by Chemist1422
Tue May 21, 2019 8:55 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Seththeking wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Looking at D1 vc with ejj as town, either proto is a god or mafia is in {chem,tfios,rick}. I've excluded goomba, seth and myself. I haven't attempted to read seth but they're probably town. If seth is SK and wins they deserve it tbh.

Tfios is a solid candidate, and I haven't read chem and rick yet. I think chem is the least likely maf in there imo. I'll update once I iso chem, rick and uzay later today.


Honestly, that’s exactly how I felt about you.
If your SK you deserve it.

that is what is called wolfsiding
by Chemist1422
Tue May 21, 2019 6:50 am
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Seththeking wrote:
GrumpyGoomba wrote:/Vote Tfios


If Tfios is Town.
Ejji should Shoot Chemist.
Almost a 100% Scum Kill.

Image
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 9:55 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

GrumpyGoomba wrote:I have finally skimmed through the happenings of yesterday given my abysmal net rn. It seems like I have made some bad plays and in turn have ended up getting scumread by a majority of the active people in here.

To answer some of the matters addressed about me,
My response on dash replying with a simple no to flake's call for elaboration was not meant as a push at all but a reaction test to see how she would respond. And it seems to have spectacularly backfired on me.

My confession of not having done much wasn't worded right. I meant to say I haven't done as much as I would've liked to have done. I guess I can't use my train trip as an excuse since that would count as angleshooting and I do not intend on doing so as well.

Since I am already getting scumread I guess there goes my idea of claiming a pr to waste the mafia/sk night kill on me down the drain...

I will now go iso dive and have some reads ready shortly. Any questions are welcome.
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 7:09 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

GrumpyGoomba wrote:Sigh... I know I am being extremely frustrating to deal with and I hate it. I just didn't know what else to do save claim my role and just come clean since I am town so I should have nothing to hide. Y'all are gonna hate me when flip town and thus I'm ashamed of myself. -_-
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 7:06 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Thank you, I'm making as much of an effort as possible

Ejji, did you read my readslist? Do you disagree on any but yourself?
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 6:57 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Swaggin

That takes you solidly out of the PoE
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 6:43 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

{Chemist}

Chemist - Shouldn't be too hard to understand why I have this read

{Qva, Seth, Debil}

Qva - I've liked their tone so far this game, feels solidly different to VFM48
Seth - The slot's relentless tunneling is in their town meta+think scum would be more cautious
Debil - Their giant readswall and full catchup felt highly town motivated and I doubt scum in this situation would find WIM for it

{Rick, Ejji}

Both null with ejji being above Rick probably, Rick feels like he's not really re-evalutating while pushing while ejji doesn't have anything I can point at and say "this is a town slot" unless I'm forgetting something like a dumb

{Goomba, tfios}

Goomba - Their AtE D1 was bad and they haven't been contributing much lately
Tfios - Their cupcake/Crimson post still pings weird and they aren't doing stuff
{}
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 6:24 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

TG is not FM for this situation
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 5:01 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Seththeking wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Tfios is always low-impact

Cupcake is new

Uzay posted 143 times

So I’m not sure where you’re going with this


Cupcake isn’t new.
They’ve been around before you.
I remember them playing TG a Year Ago.

This is their second game of FM but okay

I'm working on my readslist with explanations now
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 4:58 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Tfios is always low-impact

Cupcake is new

Uzay posted 143 times

So I’m not sure where you’re going with this

Night Kills hitting Town so far are Dash, Flake, Eragon, and Phone. Two of the flips are PRs, and the other two were considered to be fairly strong citizens. No cross-kills. Assuming the Vig didn't shoot any of these, I'm not sure if Uzay would be enough as the solo kingpin of the Mafia to pull off all of this.

I guess I should just start ISOing him though, I guess.

Dash was a claimed cop

Also for the record Uzay nightkilled the cop N1 in VFM43 (I think) so I’m not sure why you don’t believe he could do it
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:45 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Tfios is always low-impact

Cupcake is new

Uzay posted 143 times

So I’m not sure where you’re going with this
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:39 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 1

UzayAltay wrote:
0verki11 wrote:Crimson | 8 | Qvaril, Dash2, Uzayaltay, Flake, Chemist1422, Zucker, Tfoisforevah, Rickdaily12 , ; Cupcakej2 |3 | Grumpygoomba, Ejjinami, Protozigg ; Dash2 | 1 | Eragon1329 ; Uzayaltay | 1 | Cupcakej2 ; Chemist | 1 | , Crimson97,


TBH I am thinking different than Flake here .

My Pool is
Either
1( Goomba , protoo ) , 1 ( Qva , Chem , Rick )
Or 2 ( Qva , Chem , Rick , Zucker , tfios}

About tfios , there are posts Like #3169181 or #3169935I Dont Like , so not aggreeing on tfios being lock-town with Flake .

Hey Rick do you think your bussing read on Uzay could apply to tfios as well
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:25 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Seththeking wrote:
Rickdaily12 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote: Spoiler:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Chemist you're seriously not helping your case

I'm trying, okay?

You're saying I faked the slip knowingly and actually slipped because I knew it would be fake, but I explained what actually happened. If you're not refuting that you can't push me based on the slip.

Wait What This is completely wrong .
If You are Okay with Flake TR ing You with your slip
But not aggreeing with Dash SR ing You with your flip
Than This is LAMIST
Which is FoS
Due You not keeping your original opinion ( Slip was NAI )
Happily take The cred from Flake
But refusing SRs
Actually This deserves A vote
But I Will Wait for your explanation

Quoting again for that being visible again

I missed this post

Dash wasn’t acknowledging my points, Flake was

See this

I answered it right here

Make sure you don't miss this post

I missed This .

The thing is It isnt What You First Said .
You Said that " If Dash want to Scumread me , he need to refute my points "
The thing is with that Logic , nobody can read sb based on sth .
How ?
Flake is townreading You based on that slip and afterward , right ?
Okay , Let's wrote , " If Flake want to TR You , they need to refute Dash's point/ points which Show You may be scum . "

If You Gave A reaction Like " Dash , If You aren't listening me and my points , You are just tunneling without thinking I am town , and your scumread is just baseless " , Okay , but This reaction is just Scummy IMO .

This quote chain

Okay, Chemist, I'll grant you that scum theaters often don't involve a mafia member missing one of the posts of another person.

The only thing bothering me about clearing you of Mafia completely, though, is that I know how much Uzay likes to bus his Mafia team, and he didn't do that with cupcake at all.


IMO the only way Chemist is Mafia is if Ejji Flips Serial Killer.

Do I even need to explain what’s wrong with this
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:19 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote: Spoiler:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Chemist you're seriously not helping your case

I'm trying, okay?

You're saying I faked the slip knowingly and actually slipped because I knew it would be fake, but I explained what actually happened. If you're not refuting that you can't push me based on the slip.

Wait What This is completely wrong .
If You are Okay with Flake TR ing You with your slip
But not aggreeing with Dash SR ing You with your flip
Than This is LAMIST
Which is FoS
Due You not keeping your original opinion ( Slip was NAI )
Happily take The cred from Flake
But refusing SRs
Actually This deserves A vote
But I Will Wait for your explanation

Quoting again for that being visible again

I missed this post

Dash wasn’t acknowledging my points, Flake was

See this

I answered it right here

Make sure you don't miss this post

I missed This .

The thing is It isnt What You First Said .
You Said that " If Dash want to Scumread me , he need to refute my points "
The thing is with that Logic , nobody can read sb based on sth .
How ?
Flake is townreading You based on that slip and afterward , right ?
Okay , Let's wrote , " If Flake want to TR You , they need to refute Dash's point/ points which Show You may be scum . "

If You Gave A reaction Like " Dash , If You aren't listening me and my points , You are just tunneling without thinking I am town , and your scumread is just baseless " , Okay , but This reaction is just Scummy IMO .

This quote chain

Okay, Chemist, I'll grant you that scum theaters often don't involve a mafia member missing one of the posts of another person.

The only thing bothering me about clearing you of Mafia completely, though, is that I know how much Uzay likes to bus his Mafia team, and he didn't do that with cupcake at all.

So if he didn’t do that with an LHF player, why would he do it on an arguably stronger one?
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:18 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Seththeking wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Seththeking wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:If anyone thinks I’m mafia I’d like to direct them to Uzay’s ISO


Chemist that’s a Serial Killer Move right there.
Try and use that to gain the majority of players in your favour.
Not to mention stupid player because your more Serial Killer Over Mafia.
Not to mention again, you’ve only really been called Serial Killer then defend yourself as not Mafia???? (Will Smith Face)

That was in response to Rick and Qva who both called me potential mafia


Yeah shame on them for putting down the SK.
I gotcha buddy! ;).
Don’t stab me tonight and we gochy!

Can you stop

You’re not being productive at all and just repeating the same things and confbiasing reads
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:17 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Seththeking wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:If anyone thinks I’m mafia I’d like to direct them to Uzay’s ISO


Chemist that’s a Serial Killer Move right there.
Try and use that to gain the majority of players in your favour.
Not to mention stupid player because your more Serial Killer Over Mafia.
Not to mention again, you’ve only really been called Serial Killer then defend yourself as not Mafia???? (Will Smith Face)

That was in response to Rick and Qva who both called me potential mafia
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Seththeking wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Why is Seth calling me scum for not wanting to risk insta-loss


I’m calling you scum for straight out dumb choice making.
You vote Tfios and don’t even wait till their on to ask for their reads or anything as such.
You don’t want Vigilante to reveal then later changed their mind to only if they are on the Wagon.
Then you want Vigilante not to shoot a potential scum.
Vigilante is meant for solo dissuasion making.
So you can shoot the scum that you feel by your own means.
Your saying you want to rely on majority votes which could easily benefit yourself.
Another reason as to why I feel you are SK.

Let me walk you through this

It’s 6v1v1. If there is a mislynch and vig, SK, and mafia all kill different town, that’s 2v1v1 which is basically a loss.

Therefore vig should not shoot with a mislynch.
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
Dash2 wrote:Chemist you're seriously not helping your case

I'm trying, okay?

You're saying I faked the slip knowingly and actually slipped because I knew it would be fake, but I explained what actually happened. If you're not refuting that you can't push me based on the slip.

Wait What This is completely wrong .
If You are Okay with Flake TR ing You with your slip
But not aggreeing with Dash SR ing You with your flip
Than This is LAMIST
Which is FoS
Due You not keeping your original opinion ( Slip was NAI )
Happily take The cred from Flake
But refusing SRs
Actually This deserves A vote
But I Will Wait for your explanation

Quoting again for that being visible again

I missed this post

Dash wasn’t acknowledging my points, Flake was

See this

I answered it right here

Make sure you don't miss this post

I missed This .

The thing is It isnt What You First Said .
You Said that " If Dash want to Scumread me , he need to refute my points "
The thing is with that Logic , nobody can read sb based on sth .
How ?
Flake is townreading You based on that slip and afterward , right ?
Okay , Let's wrote , " If Flake want to TR You , they need to refute Dash's point/ points which Show You may be scum . "

If You Gave A reaction Like " Dash , If You aren't listening me and my points , You are just tunneling without thinking I am town , and your scumread is just baseless " , Okay , but This reaction is just Scummy IMO .

This quote chain
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:11 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

If anyone thinks I’m mafia I’d like to direct them to Uzay’s ISO
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:08 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Why is Seth calling me scum for not wanting to risk insta-loss
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:05 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:No one is going to push me because I'm town and everyone can see it

And the bolded is just rude

For the record, Chemist, as of right now, and just putting this out there:

If you don't claim Vig today, you're probably one of my highest Mafia/SK reads on both sides.

I’m hardclaiming Vanilla then

Lettuce discuss this development and how it changed off last night’s flips
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:04 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

No you stop

You don't need to make PR reads here because the vig is probably claiming if they listen to rick, and they're claiming if they get wagoned no matter what
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:03 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Rickdaily12 wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Seth if you're sure on both mafia and SK, isn't it more beneficial to lynch the SK and shoot the maf at night? Though I don't think it matters so much.

Not when you're trying to target lynch. If Vig announces who they shoot tonight, and they live, we know that an SK with town immunity got hit last night.

This is why we should really give zero shits about which scum we lynch today and yet another reason why Vig should be claiming today.

Ah I forgot about that

Yeah that makes sense I guess
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:02 pm
 
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Re: VFM 49: Day 2

Qvapil wrote:What do you guys think about rick's thoughts on vig outing? I'm not sure what I think myself, I think I'm in favour of it mostly due to having a confirmed townie which helps us immensely today.

I think if the vig is in our immediate PoE of {tfios/ejji} they claim

If not I don't think they out and I don't think they shoot if we mislynch
Seththeking wrote:
Qvapil wrote:Seth if you're sure on both mafia and SK, isn't it more beneficial to lynch the SK and shoot the maf at night? Though I don't think it matters so much.


Well that’s just it.
Could Chemist be just playing really bad this game like Crimson or is he actually trying?
See IMO I think it’s best if we vote someone who’s most likely to Be Scum and not Flip Vigilante.
While Chemist also falls into this category, no one is going to push Chemist RN I don’t think.
While if Ejji is lynched and Flips Mafia we can have Tfios Shoot Chemist and if Tfios dies with no other deaths we lynch Chemist and win.

No one is going to push me because I'm town and everyone can see it

And the bolded is just rude
by Chemist1422
Mon May 20, 2019 2:02 pm
 
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