RhazhBash wrote:pumacatrun2 wrote:other than that, i wasn't even online during the lynch, yet you were in the pool of voters on a townie, which tends to be a little more sus. i deleted it while i was writing it because i was wishy washy on it as i kept reading the thread but i was actually starting to think that if oliy flipped town swords would be likelier scum than you and that maybe we'd been thrown a 4 neutral 3 mafia game considering how most of the dead neutrals seemed to look like non-killing ones, but yeah nope.
4 Neutrals is overkill and only 3 Mafia is underpowered. Let's not forget that the deaths N4 imply some sort of Arsonist or Detonator like role, and the result on Cakez showing him visiting someone who died to that likely NK (I don't believe there were any killers other than Mafia that night, and Mafia wouldn't attack themselves). Also saying I'm scum for being on the oily wagon isn't a valid argument when 2 confirmed Townies were on it too and oily was easily the most likely to flip scum at that point.
as i said, to me at least the thought was making sense, once again because most of the dead neutrals seemed vaguely likely to not be killing roles (and, we had two death last night, it bring the thought into question). whether others agreed or not was a different point, and again i originally took it out of what i was thinking if yesterday was still going because i was wish-washy on the thought but if i were mafia i'd have seen it as a fair option, and again, there's the vice versa option, even swords was starting to doubt you and oliy (you're argument that me picking neasans over swords is bs). And I'm not literally saying you are scum just for voting oliy, no shit, but it's a factor that adds up and it's a Pov PoE kingmaker situation rn so obv I'm gonna treat it like it's fact.
tbh if i were mafia i'd probably have killed neasans considering swords if town would practically be a citizen without his bullets and i'd probably use my actual thought process as reasoning for convincing oliy to lynch swords or vice versa but that argument is pretty much just WIFOM anyway
Misread this, but it still doesn't show how killing Neasans gives any advantage over killing Swords. Swords hadn't said whether he was more confident on me or you being scum, and Neasans made it clear that she was more inclined to lynch me. You forget the fact that Neasans is also an effective Citizen (Shocker).
okay so why does killing swords give me any advantage over killing neasans exactly?
Swords quotes for emphasis:
Swordsworth wrote:Oliy, are you aware that TrueGent claimed Negative as well?
I think the mafia at this point is Rhazh and Oliy.
Swordsworth wrote:Oliy gave me another shot in hope of me miss shooting as well as exempting him from the shot. Rhazh could likely be mafia head, immune to investigations. Murat was also killed after I ordered him to invest oliy, despite the fact that oliy would appear as different to Deferent no matter what.
Swordsworth wrote:Yeah, Oliy and Rhazh scumteam. Oliy discounts the possibility of 2 mafia AND Mafia Head right off the bat, and Puma was forthcoming about her role and alignment. Mafia Negative doesn't make sense, and True collaborated Puma's alignment existing. Rhazh is attempting to distance from Oliy now, in a last ditch attempt to secure at least 1 mislynch to win. I think we're in LyLo.
Swords was definitely leaning more on you than me.
RhazhBash wrote:One more reason I forgot to put about why we have an NK for sure, just read your rolecard. It mentions killer JonTrons right on it below Mafia JonTrons.
Wait you can read rolecards? Where
I've literally been going blind through this game if there was a cheatsheet I wish I'd known.
Other than wincons ("You must kill Killer Jontrons") it doesn't say anything about them? What's your point if you do mean the wincon?