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Arcthurus wrote:I'm surprised everyone ignored K1ll after they said Lone was lying, that was pratically a Tracker/Sheriff claim.

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:LoF you wanted to lynch me. We would have been in the same place if we had listened to you, except you would have had a chance to win.

LordofFail wrote:also mafia and witch are the ones pushing this lynch the hardest.

stop being sheeps and read the thread - I am killing a Mafia tonight. You literally have no reason to lynch me.

I dont really care either way, I just want Mafia to lose since they attacked me last night.

If you lynch me, Mafia are going to win. The Tracker will be killed tonight (enforcer and janitor visit, thus bypassing the marshal) and the medium will be killed the next night, and you will be left with no way to find who the mafia are.

Sure, Lone is 99% confirmed mafia, and PKR is probably mafia, but the last mafia and witch would have to be lynched without any mislynches AND without the witch finding the vig. There just aren't that many cit claims, and only cit claims will be lynched. So every day that goes by, the witch will have a higher chance of hitting the vig. And the moment the witch hits the vig, mafia wins.


I cant wait to be lynched so that when this gets endgamed because mafia has equal numbers to the town I can say that I told you so.

LordofFail wrote:I cant wait to be lynched so that when this gets endgamed because mafia has equal numbers to the town I can say that I told you so.

Varanus wrote:Literally everyone would shoot Jammy
But ok

Hammer it

Varanus wrote:

LordofFail wrote:Vigilante cant get marshalled if the vigilante is witched to attack the marshal. Marshal cant protect themselves.

I think LoF is drunk
Send him help


Yea, L-2
Hammer it anyway

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:Also LoF said before that Enforcer is Witch immune. Checked with Animate and it's complete bullshit.

SamuelJackson1972 wrote:

LordofFail wrote:

SamuelJackson1972 wrote:

LordofFail wrote:

Varanus wrote:What
We're lynching LoF
Calm yourself child

Did you read my post? Lynching me will cost you the game.

1. Completely ignores the posts saying he's bluffing
2. Ignores the flaws in his plans such as the vigilante getting marshaled.
3. continues to bluff like nothing is wrong
10/10

Vigilante cant get marshalled if the vigilante is witched to attack the marshal. Marshal cant protect themselves.

You should read my posts more carefully before declaring flaws in my statements.
The only potential flaw would be that chara isn't actually the vig but that someone else attacked Jammy for some reason - really I cant see anyone but Chara attacaking Jammy from their Day 2 play

Wow I never knew that a witch can bypass a marshal topkek.
also thanks for proving my point.

Varanus wrote:I say just lynch him either way
Town loses by default if we don't

SamuelJackson1972 wrote:

LordofFail wrote:

Varanus wrote:What
We're lynching LoF
Calm yourself child

Did you read my post? Lynching me will cost you the game.

1. Completely ignores the posts saying he's bluffing
2. Ignores the flaws in his plans such as the vigilante getting marshaled.
3. continues to bluff like nothing is wrong
10/10

LiarGame wrote:

Sevohaseth wrote:

LiarGame wrote:Hi everyone. Sorry for only showing up now, quite swamped irl but I will be active from now on. Still catching up in mobile SIGH. This will take some time, so if yall want me to focus on someone / something first before the end of this day, do ask.

Please claim.

Plain ol' cit.

FoS at Phasma for trying to end the day early

Spoiler:

CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:

LordofFail wrote:

CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:Here's the plan (probably)

Lynch LoF/Chara/Varanys
Vig shoot LonePrayer
Lynch LoF/Chara/Varanus

Vig shooting lone is pointess; I'm killing Lone tonight.

And then Witch will control you and fuck things up.

CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:Here's the plan (probably)

Lynch LoF/Chara/Varanys
Vig shoot LonePrayer
Lynch LoF/Chara/Varanus

Varanus wrote:What
We're lynching LoF
Calm yourself child

Varanus wrote:LoF is bluffing. He has no idea who the vig is. His plan is to get us to lynch mafia so that a 4v4 tomorrow will force town to be kingmakers, with that as his only chance of winning.

My vote stands.

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:Literally this entire thing:
Spoiler:

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:

LordofFail wrote:

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:

CharaTheFallen wrote:also LoF is basically lock scum rn tbh

This I can agree with LoF looks like Neutral scum to me.

Care to explain this?

Sure thing.
You defended ICE which makes me suspect you couldn't possibly be Mafia since you would have instinctively attempt to lynch anyone other than the Mafia members you would know of whereas someone who is neutral might try to stop a lynch of someone they think is scummy to keep scum numbers up for the early game. Here specifically:

LordofFail wrote:At the moment I have a townread on ICE and have no intentions of voting him.

I dont he is Mafia, Mafia would want to keep the SK alive for at least a couple more nights because mafia would need the extra kills.

If he is SK he is being really ballsy by trying to frame me with the deathnote and pointing it out like that; the only reason he would choose me as a frame target would be because of my sk memeclaim on day 1 probably (I wouldn't be surprised if the SK tried to frame me and read up on my past games in which i rolled scum to get a deathnote idea)

So I think it is unlikely that ICE is Mafia, but it is possible that he is SK and being really ballsy with his play.

That being said, while the possibility of ICE being SK exists, I think it is far more likely that ICE is town.

Understanding the context of this quote is important because you must know that ICE said this:

ICECLIMBERS wrote:

ramer93 wrote:Not sure if obvious frame attempt... or genuinely pointing out frame attempt. Doubt SK LoF would actually put down a self-incriminating death note like that if he's playing with someone else who participated in that game. *checks player list* PKR was in the Mafia with LoF while ICE wasn't even in at all? Strange. Does he spectate every game there is around here?

Considering that the 9G deathnote resembled similar ones he wrote in 7H and SFM12 I wouldn't consider it a stretch to say that he is sloppy at making death notes which is why I was subtly accusing him of being SK towards the start of the day.
I generally read mafia chats once games conclude.

So ICE says the exact games in which LoF used that sort of deathnote, but LoF doesn't go after him for being SK that was framing him even though it would be so easy to. Why? LoF knows that ICE isn't SK because LoF is SK (I think maybe). He knows that ICE is town and that by defending ICE as town would get him towncred should ICE's role be revealed. I think LoF is a very smart person who knows this and is planning ahead.

LordofFail wrote:I slept peacefully.

C1 seems most likely but I'm hoping for D3 so we have a Medium who can ask who Kmenx roleblocked last night.

D3 is possible because Marshal could have scared away a Janitor, or Kmenx could have roleblocked a Janitor.

We should hypothesize both situations as if both were true.


I'll post more about the specifics and my opinions on the two potential matrix rolls (C1 / D3) tomorrow when I have the brain power to do it. If I tried to do it now it would come off as an incomprehensible mess and my opinions likely would not take everything into account.


And since roleblocks are silent only someone who has a night action that gives them back a result (such as investigatives or killing roles) will know if they are roleblocked. So basically if Random Mafia rolled Consort we would have no idea who they are blocking unless someone is supposed to get a result and dosent.
Which means that no power roles should hardclaim (except maybe investigatives since they will know if they get roleblocked). Other power roles should not hardclaim since a Consort can roleblock them silently.

You are the first person to point out that C1 and D3 are possible which would be likely to come from a PR or Mafia role because they would know we are not in C1, but rather in D3. However you don't seem like a Mafia member to me so you would be PR or just a smart Cit, SK, or Witch. You claimed Cit so you are obviously not PR (unless you are Vig which is entirely possible) so you are a smart Cit, SK, or Witch. I honestly expected a PR claim from you after which I would change my read to town. The Citizen claim makes me think you are SK or Witch though.

Then there is the deathnote, not the deathnote itself, but your inherent obsession with it. If I was being framed with deathnotes I wouldn't focus so much on it because you know you are town so it doesn't matter, yet you ask people for their opinion on it. It seems like you are trying to fish out a response that says "Oh yeah you are totally being framed I guess you aren't SK then". No one else seems to really care about the deathnote except for you when you have the most reason (as a towns member) to completely ignore the deathnote because you know it is frame-job.

I have to assume you are not Vigi who claimed Citizen because of this:

LordofFail wrote:Overall remarks:
I cannot say for certain if Jammy v Unorthodox is TvT, TvS or SvS. I just dont see anything alignment indicative in their exchanges. I see Jammy bantering and Unorthodox not picking up on it, and then the reverse happening. So I dont see anything alignment indicative, it could be TvT, it could be TvS, it could be SvS. I have no idea. But I dont think the exchange between Jammy and Unorthodox has anything alignment indicative, the only thing I got from it is that Unorthodox doesn't know the site day 1 meta.

No one who thought that Jammy could be anything would freely shoot him (this is assuming that Vig only claimed Citizen if they were not controlled).

was before Phasma claimed Tracker so yeah I had established my read on you as probably SK for all the reasons stated in the above spoiler long before you said I did.

Sorry for double post I fixed the spoiler mix up

Arcthurus wrote:I don't see how that was Zugzwang, as I could swear you'd only lose your queen there. Unless I'm missing something. Haven't played in literal years.

Varanus wrote:wolfy

PurpleSidewalk1 wrote:

LordofFail wrote:We should also wait for the last claim to come, then we can piece it all together

Also I would like to say that I have been playing really bad this game, and frankly I dont blame you for having SK reads on me, I really haven't played well at all

Why don't you point out what exactly is wrong with your play? I feel like this might just allow us to see it from your perspective.

CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:Witch will probably control Marshal to the Witch. I will track Sevo tonight incase this happens