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i was right about you uzay all along :lol: gg though
by tfiosforevah
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:56 pm
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | insane

MoustachioMario wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:
TheDebil wrote:could this be TvT?

also tfios: uzay was tracked and did not visit anyone. what do you think of that? think he could be blackmailer didn't visit?

I mean there’s two mafia and one of them doesn’t visit so that doesn’t mean uzay had to visit anybody as mafia


How can bmer be useful if FM?

It's not useful so then why visit anybody?
by tfiosforevah
Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:38 am
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | insane

TheDebil wrote:could this be TvT?

also tfios: uzay was tracked and did not visit anyone. what do you think of that? think he could be blackmailer didn't visit?

I mean there’s two mafia and one of them doesn’t visit so that doesn’t mean uzay had to visit anybody as mafia
by tfiosforevah
Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:10 am
 
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Nopingout wrote:why am i seeing parallels with tfios and phone

both say that their play is shit because their playstyle is wip

is phone tfios' alt.

Nope this is my only account I’ve ever made on here or for TOS and I made it back in 2014
by tfiosforevah
Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:35 pm
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | insane

TakumiHijirihara wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:
TakumiHijirihara wrote:Would it be annoying to make a wall about tfios's defense posts

Nah even I’d like to see it.


Kk bbq. Minor formatting edits will be made to your posts in order to show what parts I'm talking about. Fair warning, some of this is bordering on hypocrisy.

tfiosforevah wrote:
Nopingout wrote:
Jezz92 wrote:I keep forgetting that phone and tfios are in this game

apart from a short lived wagon phone has done not a lot

tfios might aswell reduce player limit to 12

i'm still working on my playing style here, and i'm always scum read anyways whenever i'm town soooo i usually just sit back while still making commentary when i have to. got any suggestions?

btw, i slept peacefully


The "I'm still working on my playstyle" could be passable. Just this once. But you can't use it as an excuse. If it were just a general statement, made once near the beginning of the game to warn other players of possible meta changes (Which is a whole nother issue entirely but people still fucking use it) or possible risky plays (which if they involve reaction tests should not be forewarned of.) It should not be used as an excuse to act scummy and try to get a free ride.

"I'm always scum read anyways whenever I'm town" is just bad. That's essentially saying that your townplay is scummy. Now, if you're town, and your town play is scummy, and you obviously aren't trying to change that and instead are just saying "Oh I'm always scummy as town" then you're a PL. Because at that point, it's better to just get rid of you than to deal with you in MyLo or LyLo.

However, inexperienced scum do tend to fall to that excuse as a reason for their failure to hide their scummy behavior. Scummy scum is also lynchworthy.

Now, you did ask for suggestions so as a spoilered sidebar, here are some resources I found useful when I first started FM and actually cared:

Spoiler: https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=14221 - No matter what role you're playing this guide is actually a really important thing to keep in mind

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=30150#p885586

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... _Alignment - Yes, I know it's offsite, but it's useful

Basically the one thing you want to keep in mind playing any version of FM, it's that the most important thing is to pay attention and try your best. If you actually care about the game, don't settle for being scummy. Actively try and improve yourself. Try to be involved in discussion, yes I am well aware that with school and a life this is difficult, but do what you can when you can. Try to be open with your thoughts on what's going on with the game, don't wait for people to ask you, just speak your mind. When you see something point it out. Unless it's a softclaim. Then just take note for later and move on. If you're ever stuck as a citizen, don't worry about dying. Don't self-pres. In fact, get out there. Shove your towniness in everyone's face. Paint a target on your back so that scum are more worried about you than the PR who's tracking them down. And above all, enjoy the game. It's easy to grow disenchanted with FM. So enjoy it while you can.


OK. This is pt 1. My roommate is trying to sleep and I probably should too. So I'll finish the rest in the morning.

Okay as you’ve noticed I have gotten more active since then, because yes I have been working on my playing style. And yes, I did say that I’ve always been scum read as town, but I have been working to change that. I’m sorry if it came off as an excuse, I genuinely was pointing it out for meta reasons. In previous games ive always been scum read until I can prove myself (I.e GFM throwback to 2015), but it is very hard to prove one’s self as a vanilla townie. I started playing back in early 2015, when nfm wasn’t a thing so I had to jump into the deep end of standard episodes, so I never really got the basics taught rather than experienced. As for the early inactivity, it was because I hadn’t played since 2017 and I needed to get my feet back on the ground. IMO I’ve definitely gotten better since the beginning of the game and I hope to improve my towniness reads later in the future and (hopefully) for this game. ((Also, thanks for the links that helped a lot! :D )
by tfiosforevah
Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:35 pm
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | insane

TakumiHijirihara wrote:Would it be annoying to make a wall about tfios's defense posts

Nah even I’d like to see it.
by tfiosforevah
Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:02 pm
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | insane

Eragon1329 wrote:basically, i dont want to can the game because of the work everyone has put in, but like, i won't argue against it if other people want to can it

I'd rather not because we've gotten this far
by tfiosforevah
Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:53 pm
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | insane

Okay, Uzay, you asked for me to explain. Here's that explanation.
Day 1:
Spoiler: you never talked about Crimson at all and ignored their lynch wagon. Why was that?
UzayAltay wrote:Phoenix , TBH If You changed your Style I can see both where scumread and your Logic come from , TBH it seems I should try to read it from mid/end-day If your early Game isnt very revelant .
And given that We are being closer to that part , could I ask You If You are suspecting somebody atm ?

Why were you focusing on phone? phone was very heavily scumread at that point so why would a townie care about who he read as scum?
UzayAltay wrote:
jucktropy wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
jucktropy wrote:
Phone0Ix wrote:I am gonna hypoclaim.

I am the Sheriff. The person named VC flipped red


And I Guess chemist did too (unless it's meme) and thats why he vote him?

Friendly reminder : I Dont understand What are You speaking about , but DONT speak about it being about or fake . You can speak about it Coming from scum or town , but Dont speak about is it fake or Real ( If it is Coming from town ) .

if you don't understand what i am speaking about that means you didn't read much & it's so early to gather me data...Probably Doesn't Matter Either i'm going to die early in the game

It was a friendly reminder , As I understand You were speaking about it is Coming from V or w , just I am not sure , and I want to remind You Because of You were swimming at dangerous Waters . ( acting near dangerous things )

Why were you threatening juck? What did juck do that seemed scummy?
UzayAltay wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:{Chemist}
{Crimson, Wabbit, Takumi, Jezz}
{Soul, Mario, Noping, tfios, Eragon}
{juck, Phone, Uzay}
{}

p-edit: Would say that's towny for Soul


Where is The read on me and Phone comes ?
And Why I am Same tier with Juck ????

Why are you surprised about being on the same tier as juck, but not surprised as being on the same tier as Phone? At that point, phone was a lot scummier than juck was for the majority of the town

Day 2:
Spoiler:
UzayAltay wrote:Okay , Juck and Soul is hard-buddying each other ( or Actually Juck is buddying Soul Because Soul was pushing Chem , Than Juck started The push , too ) but They cant be scum Unless We assumed There was only 1 scum in Crimson wagon , which seems very unlikely to me .
Now Lets look The EOD situation , with Jezz and Juck being The lead wagons .
The thing I want to eleminate is Juck V Jezz w situation , it would be much easier and low risky to CFD Juck , given that Jezz wasnt even scumread at that point . Even though it is possible , very very unlikely , considering me TR jess , SR Juck , and above thing .
But , opposite is quite possible , Because mislynching Town!jezz from A team includes scum!juck would be suicide , with main pusher+Juck would immadieatly scumread , and probably lynched later .
This come to Another place :
Would A Mafia without Juck tried to mislynch Town!Jezz ! This is Possible , but detailing on that would be highly speculative.

The scenario which make More sense is ( If We ignore Both being scum ) is Scum!juck , given that Trying to mislynch V!jezz would be suicide . And even We considering both scum , it Dont change Juvk scum make The most sense .

You never acknowledged this read after it was revealed that juck was bodydouble and soul is tracker. what do you think about jezz now using this same logic?
UzayAltay wrote:/vote juck

I believe You should be lynched Day 1 , but late is better Than none .

This. Why did you think juck should be lynched day 1?
UzayAltay wrote:
jucktropy wrote:My Actual ROLE IS BODYDOUBLE SO Town lets Maker IT LET STAR Pushing chemist today and we lynch eragon and uzay wait


Lets Start with Uazy

/Vote Uazy



Than Why You are keep saying " there is sheriff " ?
And Why You are keep role-fıshing even I Said Almost start of Day 1 I would deathtunnel anyone doing that ?
I am keeping my vote until Seeing You are only TP claim .

Why weren't you backing down? I realize nobody had time to cc juck yet but you were still scum reading juck?
UzayAltay wrote:
Soulshade55r wrote:If Juck is Body double then chemist visiting Juck is 100% scum.

Hard Tracker claim here


Chemist1422 wrote:Hard CCing Tracker, no visits on Eragon

I claimed cit because if Soul was scum I would be killed that night + didn’t want to out myself

/vote Soul


TBH Soul 's claim is More believable , given that he claimed First , and he softed it .
And given that Soul had no reason to Do that as scum
/vote Chem

Not even 10 minutes later you back off on juck and jump on the chemist wagon since it was evident that chemist was scum. bussing fellow maf maybe?
UzayAltay wrote:
jucktropy wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
jucktropy wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
jucktropy wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:
jucktropy wrote:Now uzay push wow he if you lynched me D1 You will lose your TP Luckliy iwasn't lynched


It was Said 100 Times


YOU DONT HAVE TO OPENWOLF AS PR
Like I Can even give You The Thread about This being discussed
I am just being pissed


shut up you are arrstend

Arrstend ?
Can I ask Everyone Is there anybody who Thinks If you openwolfed or not ?
I am sure You Will Get More Than %75 votes .


Actually Wait , Lets Do This
Hope This Will make your Plays better in long time

Votecount on Juck openwolfed or not
/vote openwolfed

Openwolfed -1 - UzayAltay
Not openwolfed - 0 -

I am really doing This .



Seriously? Did you thought i played like town? IK My claim was gone save me so i start a trap vote from being of game i did openwolfed

if i was cit i never come with that behaviour BTW This doesn't make you free you still defend chemist like eragon


You : I played Like scum
Also You : The people push me are scum .

jucktropy wrote:
Soulshade55r wrote:It's sad both PRs had to out but even if I did out without Juck it would of had the same effect because they would die protecting me


Yeah man i was not gone claim since this idiots voted me in same time they didn't even ask my role thats make them obv scum ik you had lead thats why i voted him but i was going to still start my trap vote (acting like scum saved me from maf cause they were sure i was going to be lynched D2 So use this too)

We wont say you to claim Unless You were pushed Because of A claim ( for example , A Red-check ) , You should manually claim at L3 ( or L2 , but L 3 is better I believe ) .

Also I believe You should see This : viewtopic.php?f=18&t=91047


yeah sure they guy who said "I Should lynched You D1" For What? did i speak to much or i was threat to mafia? btw by claiming that i'm scum i was just doing memephase and thats how you got offended that you imm vote me D1


Because of A mislynch happened Day 1
And I believed You would flip scum ?

Your only explanation was because "you believed he would flip scum"? Doesn't sound like a very strong reason, seems very fake
UzayAltay wrote:
jucktropy wrote:Be Honest You were going to lynch me hard for no reason did you gave me a chance?

You could think Day 1 lynch Dont happen on You as A chance
And not openwolf Day 2 , too .
And it is not possible giving chances to players every time , but You had A chance , and You didnt used that either .
For The people who didnt have The chance , look : Crimson

This was your defense to juck's question? Even I have the same question (look above to previous point)

Day 3:
Spoiler:
UzayAltay wrote:
Jezz92 wrote:The quick hammer should not have happened, like after soul outing chemist was always gonna be the lynch but we could have used the discussion time
I mean takumi and Mario hadn’t even checked in yet
But whatever
Good thing is we’re one scum down and our TP was someone mafia would not have NK’ed as a priority if he were VT so lol

I believe we are on a good spot ,but we may lose our advantage with a ML , so we need to be cautious here .

And? Got anything more to add to this?
UzayAltay wrote:
Jezz92 wrote:day 2 wagon is kinda useless to look at for vca purposes since everyone just piled onto chemist
I'll need to go back and check vote context probably, but even that might be hard since soul literally had a guilty on chemist

but here's day 1 updated with confirmed alignments

Crimson|5|Jezz, Chemist, Mario, Noping, Eragon
Juck|2|Wabbit, Uzay
Wabbit|1|Soul
Jezz|1|Crimson
Chemist|1|Juck

not voting: tfios, phone, takumi


I'm way more biased here cos I know I'm town and imo I have doubts that scum would feel the need to pile on crimsons wagon if they knew the counter choices were town + a non threatening wagon on chemist.

But for everyone else:
- Do you think there were 0,1 or 2 scum other than chemist on the wagon? if 1-2, who is/are most likely?
- If there is 1 scum there other than chemist, would the other scum be more likely uzay, or a non-voter?
- If there is 0 scum there other than chemist, where would the 2 scum be?


2 is impossible unless Eragon/Jezz , which I cant see , and if it is the answer we are already lost. ( I dont think no other scum team except this can pull this off )
Both 1 and 0 is possible , thinking more on 1 like yesterday , bur 0 isnt off-possibility , due juck flipping v as well .

SO, from my PoV , ( assuming you are v ) , It is at least 1 in ( tfios, phone, takumi ) and at most 1 in ( Mario, Noping, Eragon ) .

Why is Takumi in the same pool as me and phone? I don't recall them being read the same as either of us.
UzayAltay wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:
UzayAltay wrote:[spoiler](Moral Speaking )

-Ehem Ehem
This speaking would be mainly towards Jezz , Because Jezz is The most experienced Player here , and have much More believable things Than us .

I believe that staying in our and other people's memories is More important Than staying in paper's , staying in paper's Also good , but would it Matter If nobody remembers You when You Meet again ?

Now , Lets back to The Game . First , Lets back to The point I was on at Last
" SO, from my PoV , ( assuming you are v ) , It is at least 1 in ( tfios, phone, takumi ) and at most 1 in ( Mario, Noping, Eragon ) . "

Now , Lets put The tiers
{Soul} (90-100)
{Jezz , Mario } (65-90)
{Takumi , Eragon , Noping } - Null line (40-65)
{TheDebil , tfiosforevah } (15-40)
{} ( (0-15)

If We put This at Numbers :
Soul = 100
Jezz = 85
Mario = 80
Eragon = 62
Takumi = 58
Noping = 54
Debil = 50
Tfiosforeva = 25

Explanations :
Soul = Should I really explain This ?
Jezz = The most townie person IMO .
I am ready to nominate him for best play If he flips scum Ever .
Like his posts are All Trying to move The Game forward , and I believe , Geniune .
Mario =
Jezz92 wrote:trying to work out whether or not mario's posts are AI is probably one of the most frustrating things I've encountered in FM

And with Jezz's explanation being only strong explanation about his Alignment , and it make sense , I am Actually agreeing with Jezz here .

Eragon = ( For Looking Why Takumi is below Eragon , look "Takumi Explanation " )
Some part of This read is Literally mirror of his reads , wuth A Few More , wont Quote it again .
About other things , mainly his Day 3 is The thing which smells me as Town!Eragon .

Takumi = Actually , he is Obviously More townie Than Eragon , but one thing is crossing my mind , so I should leave A doubt on them .The thing is , Chemist pushing Mario when he had A scumread on Jezz/Takumi . My mind is saying that What If This is A " Attack The Attacker " situation ? Even I am TRing Takumi , I want to have A doubt .

Noping = You know , he is Also hard to read , Like Mario , Jezz is believing Noping is town but I am A bit close to Null , only reason I am leaning town ( very Tiny ) atm is some of his posts seems Geniune , and PoE makes him More likely town atm .
Noping , I am not considering You as Today's lynch ( Because there is A better candidate ) , but I should see your reads , Because You are A strong candidate for tmrrw , IMO .

TheDebil = He come as new , Seems good so far , and I believe I can solve him tomorrow .

tfiosforeva = Seems completely fake . From him not Explaining The read on me , to change reads completely with smallest pressure , at every point , he seems fake . Just compare him with Debil ,and You Will see The difference .

/vote tfiosforeva

I’d just like to point out to everyone in the town a few things that I find of note. I’d like to point out who the main person is that is pushing me, just in case I do get lynched today. Here’s my take on things. Yes, I acknowledge that even I realize that my reads aren’t the best, but that’s because I haven’t played in years, and irl I cave to pressure quickly so that sometimes translates here. Here’s another thing. Why am I still alive? I know there’s only been two nights so far, but from what I believe, the Mafia won’t kill me at night. Why? Because a lot of people are scum reading me and I acknowledge that I need to work on my playing style. So why is that important? It’s because I’m an easy target to push in the daytime, and once I flip town they could easily pull a “oh whoops we legit thought she was scum sorry” and move on. Here’s the thing, I KNOW THAT I AM TOWN. If you don’t believe me, you do you, but when I flip town come back and read this post. I’m in most people’s bottom two for scum right now, so you should be looking for another player.

You Literally Said I had posts which is asked at wrong times ?
If You Said I had posts , you should be able to at least Quote 1-2 of them , even without explanation .
But I still not Seeing anything .
And for reminder , Not having laptop for A while shouldn't be A reason for unexplained reads , when I play Almost full Game ( or even More , I had 32 games Played on This site ( Actually hadnt played at Another site but whatever it is not The topic ) , and at least 25 of them was at full mobile , with 7 being only sometimes mobile sometimes PC , and I believe it is not A problem for not Explaining reads .

Now you know why I had to wait for my laptop for me to post this extensive list. If you are town, I'd be seriously shocked.
[/spoiler]
And that's all the posts that have made me scumread uzay. There's that explanation you've been waiting for.
by tfiosforevah
Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:16 pm
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | insane

UzayAltay wrote:I had to go , Literally waited 4? hours ( The time I Said I Will went ) , and plus 15 minutes for any question , anything , any explanation from tfiosforeva

My vote is staying on tfiosforeva , and , I am going , Actually can Wait 5 More minutes .

I’m in college and have class??? Anyways, long post coming up soon
by tfiosforevah
Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:05 pm
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | sane

UzayAltay wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:
Jezz92 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:i guess my scum read is back on uzay now that phone has been replaced (debil you're not off the hook just yet, but i gotta get a solid read on you first) and now even mario is being replaced

you get a replacement
and you get a replacement
EVERYBODY GETS A REPLACEMENT
:roll:

Why does your read on uzay change just because another slot replaced

It never changed, I should have worded it more clearly. Someone (it was you? Idk I’ll check ISO’s) asked me who my second lynch target would be, and I said phone. I think we need to give debil a Chance first since they’re obviously not scummy yet by the means of prodging/inactivity (again you’re not off the hook yet debil), so what I was trying to say is that my focus is back on Uzay for being the lynch target today.

/vote Uzay

And , You still havent explained The read on me .

Well if you read my above posts you get one of the reasons. I still haven’t had a chance to gather up the ISOs on my laptop yet, just give me a couple hours and you’ll get your explanation
by tfiosforevah
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:39 am
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | sane

UzayAltay wrote: Spoiler: (Moral Speaking )

-Ehem Ehem
This speaking would be mainly towards Jezz , Because Jezz is The most experienced Player here , and have much More believable things Than us .

I believe that staying in our and other people's memories is More important Than staying in paper's , staying in paper's Also good , but would it Matter If nobody remembers You when You Meet again ?

Now , Lets back to The Game . First , Lets back to The point I was on at Last
" SO, from my PoV , ( assuming you are v ) , It is at least 1 in ( tfios, phone, takumi ) and at most 1 in ( Mario, Noping, Eragon ) . "

Now , Lets put The tiers
{Soul} (90-100)
{Jezz , Mario } (65-90)
{Takumi , Eragon , Noping } - Null line (40-65)
{TheDebil , tfiosforevah } (15-40)
{} ( (0-15)

If We put This at Numbers :
Soul = 100
Jezz = 85
Mario = 80
Eragon = 62
Takumi = 58
Noping = 54
Debil = 50
Tfiosforeva = 25

Explanations :
Soul = Should I really explain This ?
Jezz = The most townie person IMO .
I am ready to nominate him for best play If he flips scum Ever .
Like his posts are All Trying to move The Game forward , and I believe , Geniune .
Mario =
Jezz92 wrote:trying to work out whether or not mario's posts are AI is probably one of the most frustrating things I've encountered in FM

And with Jezz's explanation being only strong explanation about his Alignment , and it make sense , I am Actually agreeing with Jezz here .

Eragon = ( For Looking Why Takumi is below Eragon , look "Takumi Explanation " )
Some part of This read is Literally mirror of his reads , wuth A Few More , wont Quote it again .
About other things , mainly his Day 3 is The thing which smells me as Town!Eragon .

Takumi = Actually , he is Obviously More townie Than Eragon , but one thing is crossing my mind , so I should leave A doubt on them .The thing is , Chemist pushing Mario when he had A scumread on Jezz/Takumi . My mind is saying that What If This is A " Attack The Attacker " situation ? Even I am TRing Takumi , I want to have A doubt .

Noping = You know , he is Also hard to read , Like Mario , Jezz is believing Noping is town but I am A bit close to Null , only reason I am leaning town ( very Tiny ) atm is some of his posts seems Geniune , and PoE makes him More likely town atm .
Noping , I am not considering You as Today's lynch ( Because there is A better candidate ) , but I should see your reads , Because You are A strong candidate for tmrrw , IMO .

TheDebil = He come as new , Seems good so far , and I believe I can solve him tomorrow .

tfiosforeva = Seems completely fake . From him not Explaining The read on me , to change reads completely with smallest pressure , at every point , he seems fake . Just compare him with Debil ,and You Will see The difference .


/vote tfiosforeva

I’d just like to point out to everyone in the town a few things that I find of note. I’d like to point out who the main person is that is pushing me, just in case I do get lynched today. Here’s my take on things. Yes, I acknowledge that even I realize that my reads aren’t the best, but that’s because I haven’t played in years, and irl I cave to pressure quickly so that sometimes translates here. Here’s another thing. Why am I still alive? I know there’s only been two nights so far, but from what I believe, the Mafia won’t kill me at night. Why? Because a lot of people are scum reading me and I acknowledge that I need to work on my playing style. So why is that important? It’s because I’m an easy target to push in the daytime, and once I flip town they could easily pull a “oh whoops we legit thought she was scum sorry” and move on. Here’s the thing, I KNOW THAT I AM TOWN. If you don’t believe me, you do you, but when I flip town come back and read this post. I’m in most people’s bottom two for scum right now, so you should be looking for another player.
by tfiosforevah
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:35 am
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | sane

Jezz92 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:i guess my scum read is back on uzay now that phone has been replaced (debil you're not off the hook just yet, but i gotta get a solid read on you first) and now even mario is being replaced

you get a replacement
and you get a replacement
EVERYBODY GETS A REPLACEMENT
:roll:

Why does your read on uzay change just because another slot replaced

It never changed, I should have worded it more clearly. Someone (it was you? Idk I’ll check ISO’s) asked me who my second lynch target would be, and I said phone. I think we need to give debil a Chance first since they’re obviously not scummy yet by the means of prodging/inactivity (again you’re not off the hook yet debil), so what I was trying to say is that my focus is back on Uzay for being the lynch target today.

/vote Uzay
by tfiosforevah
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:20 am
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | sane

i guess my scum read is back on uzay now that phone has been replaced (debil you're not off the hook just yet, but i gotta get a solid read on you first) and now even mario is being replaced

you get a replacement
and you get a replacement
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by tfiosforevah
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:14 am
 
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Topic: VFM42 | GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 4
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

Jezz92 wrote:sorry i have considerably lowered wim now that i know that fm is very likely gonna be completely gone once forum moves so like whats the point of even being here rn if it's all just gonna be deleted

I literally just got back from a hiatus, have been playing fm on here since i was a freshman in high school and now i'm in college, this is so disappointing :(
by tfiosforevah
Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:10 pm
 
Forum: Game Threads
Topic: VFM42 | GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 4
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

UzayAltay wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote: - snip -

to elaborate on above, i might be influenced on other people's reads of eragon and that could be why i'm leaning scum, but other than that i really don't have much to say. for uzay, i feel like they're asking the wrong questions at the wrong times, and it could be a disguise of someone seeming like they're interested in finding scum whereas they're actually scum themselves. idk, could just be me overanalyzing


Can You give examples " asking wrong questions at wrong times ? " You asked for defense at later , but in really , Unless You give examples , I hope You Dont Wait me Explaining every single post of Mine from my ISO , right ? This would be just A huge time waste for me .

I’m on mobile rn, but when I get my laptop I’ll give you the examples
by tfiosforevah
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:21 pm
 
Forum: Game Threads
Topic: VFM42 | GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 4
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

Jezz92 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:After looking over everything, here are my new reads list because the previous one i did was the first time i've ever made a read in that format and i guess i didn't do it correctly to my actual feelings
{Takumi, Soul}- strong town
{Jezz}- slight town
{Noping, Eragon, Phone, Mario}- slight town sometimes and slight scum other times
{Uzay}- strong scum

/vote Uzay

That's the only one I'm comfortable lynching today

Problem is i don't really think uzay is scum rn due to WIFOM stuff as well as my own special magical reason which i cannot talk about atm
who is your second lynch choice
what has phone and mario done to be considered "slight town sometimes"?

Mario was mainly the TVS with chemist, but I guess that also could be seen as potential bussing. I didn’t like them before, especially with jumping on the wagon (crimsons I believe?) with no real reasoning. Phone, whenever they posted I had no strong gut feelings they were scum, but the inactivity was a little much. I guess my second lynch choice would be phone if their replacement doesn’t have anything good to say , but if they do then my second is Mario

/vote unvote

Sleep deprived me thought it was a good idea to start the voting but now that I’ve had rest I’m not sure if voting. Should be started yet. Doesn’t mean you’re off the hook, uzay
by tfiosforevah
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:17 pm
 
Forum: Game Threads
Topic: VFM42 | GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 4
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

Eragon1329 wrote:I’m not quoting the post becuase I’m a lazy shit, but in Tfios’s post with 3 quotes or whatever,

The first one is basically saying “I’m ignoring what I fet day 1, and becuase I don’t see anything scummy from noping and becuase no one else scumreads noping I think they are town”

It’s mainly that last part hat bothers me
“No one else has given good accusations, so they are probably town”

FM isnt about waiting for other people, your supposed to look through their posts and see if there’s anything bad.

Again, currently working on my reading skills. Noping hasn't given me any reason to believe they're scum since I had the initial read, and I don't trust my day 1 reads anyways since theres no deaths/flips vs. previous day pushes to go off on. The only scummy thing that noping has done was "accidentally" hammering chemist but whether that was actually an accident by a townie or a planned "accident" by scum is yet to be found out.

Eragon1329 wrote:The third one, he says he may be influenced by other peope’s Reads on me, but he has me as scum? I think the majority of people townread me(at least slightly) so I don’t see where he gets that? It feels like really bad justification.

Should've explained more, I meant you were in other's scum pools to pick from, even if you were mainly town read.

Eragon1329 wrote:Basically calls uzay LAMIST(not using the term but expressing the motive) And the readlist has uzay/me as the top 2 scum candidates why?
Do you actually think that scum would have all 3 members pushing Jucktropy, knowing that he was bodydouble?
And do you actually believe that all 3 scum were on Chemist?
and that Ph0ne is town?

I'm getting a strong scum vibe from uzay, and i highly doubt anything will change my mind on this one (uzay, any sort of defense?) I don't necessarily believe that all three scum were pushing juck or voting chemist, but when people were asking out of the voting pool who seemed like the most scum, you stood out to me. In the case of phone, I do see why people believe they are scum. I didn't get a gut scum read, but now going back through the ISO's it does seem like they aren't really expressing as much opinions as they could be. Phone, do you have any opinions right now? Any comments, defense? (You're almost due for a prod... :| )

After looking over everything, here are my new reads list because the previous one i did was the first time i've ever made a read in that format and i guess i didn't do it correctly to my actual feelings
{Takumi, Soul}- strong town
{Jezz}- slight town
{Noping, Eragon, Phone, Mario}- slight town sometimes and slight scum other times
{Uzay}- strong scum

/vote Uzay

That's the only one I'm comfortable lynching today
by tfiosforevah
Tue Jan 29, 2019 1:36 am
 
Forum: Game Threads
Topic: VFM42 | GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 4
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

Jezz92 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:
Jezz92 wrote:Do you think there was scum bussing chemist yesterday?
What do you think of chemist's push on mario now that chemist flipped scum?

I don’t like how early the day ended, I believe scum had to do with that. One of them must have been close to a slip or something, so they wanted to end the towns discussion as soon as possible. Out of the people bussing chemist, my guess is to say that eragon and uzay are more likely scum than the others. As for Mario, I still feel uneasy about them, but chemist’s push made Mario look better in my view

Well scum did have something to do with it since chemist self-voted
Why those two over noping? what happened to your gut scum read on noping you had on day 1?

I'm never great with reads on day 1 in general, and I couldn't find anything scummy about noping in their day 2 or 3 posts, and nobody else has said anything noteworthy accusing noping yet, so they're back in my town radar.

Jezz92 wrote:tfios you don't have to wait on other people to comment/ask questions before you post things

i mean you could elaborate on your uzay and eragon reads a little more esp eragon because you said you thought he was townie day 1. What changed with that? Also what happened to your gut scum read on noping, do you still have it or has it changed?


read above about noping, i thought i posted it earlier but apparently i only hit preview :oops:
tfiosforevah wrote:
Eragon1329 wrote:
Why me Uzay over the others?


For you, it’s just a gut feeling combined with the entire feel of the game in general, for uzay it’s more of the post content seeming... off? I guess that’s how one could explain it

to elaborate on above, i might be influenced on other people's reads of eragon and that could be why i'm leaning scum, but other than that i really don't have much to say. for uzay, i feel like they're asking the wrong questions at the wrong times, and it could be a disguise of someone seeming like they're interested in finding scum whereas they're actually scum themselves. idk, could just be me overanalyzing

overall, my readings are:
{Takumi, Soul}
{Jezz, noping}
{Phone, mario}
{Eragon}
{uzay}
by tfiosforevah
Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:49 pm
 
Forum: Game Threads
Topic: VFM42 | GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 4
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

Nopingout wrote:chemist did not touch tfios at all

idk but tfios has been pretty...forgettable in regards of posts. i know they say they're experimenting with playstyle, but as I said before 'is prodging a playstyle'

To be fair people aren’t typically active when I can be, sometimes there’s hours after one of my posts before someone gives any new information
by tfiosforevah
Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:00 pm
 
Forum: Game Threads
Topic: VFM42 | GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 4
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

Eragon1329 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:
Jezz92 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:
Jezz92 wrote:it's hard to judge it based just on activity levels at the time of the wagon
like the people who were active at the time were the ones that voted chemist
the ones who were not active did not

Yeah as soon as I logged in majority had already been reached :| and I probably would’ve voted for chemist too after that scummy counterclaim

Anything else to comment on?
Do you think there was scum bussing chemist yesterday?
What do you think of chemist's push on mario now that chemist flipped scum?

I don’t like how early the day ended, I believe scum had to do with that. One of them must have been close to a slip or something, so they wanted to end the towns discussion as soon as possible. Out of the people bussing chemist, my guess is to say that eragon and uzay are more likely scum than the others. As for Mario, I still feel uneasy about them, but chemist’s push made Mario look better in my view


Why me Uzay over the others?


For you, it’s just a gut feeling combined with the entire feel of the game in general, for uzay it’s more of the post content seeming... off? I guess that’s how one could explain it
by tfiosforevah
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:25 pm
 
Forum: Game Threads
Topic: VFM42 | GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 4
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

UzayAltay wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:
Jezz92 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:
Jezz92 wrote:it's hard to judge it based just on activity levels at the time of the wagon
like the people who were active at the time were the ones that voted chemist
the ones who were not active did not

Yeah as soon as I logged in majority had already been reached :| and I probably would’ve voted for chemist too after that scummy counterclaim

Anything else to comment on?
Do you think there was scum bussing chemist yesterday?
What do you think of chemist's push on mario now that chemist flipped scum?

I don’t like how early the day ended, I believe scum had to do with that. One of them must have been close to a slip or something, so they wanted to end the towns discussion as soon as possible. Out of the people bussing chemist, my guess is to say that eragon and uzay are more likely scum than the others. As for Mario, I still feel uneasy about them, but chemist’s push made Mario look better in my view

Is Your read We being scum together , or seperate ? ( We = Me + Jamez )

Out of the entire chemist voting wagon, you and Eragon seem the scummiest to me, but that isn’t to say that both or either scum voted on Chemist.
by tfiosforevah
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:23 pm
 
Forum: Game Threads
Topic: VFM42 | GIVE IT UP FOR DAY 4
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

Jezz92 wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:
Jezz92 wrote:it's hard to judge it based just on activity levels at the time of the wagon
like the people who were active at the time were the ones that voted chemist
the ones who were not active did not

Yeah as soon as I logged in majority had already been reached :| and I probably would’ve voted for chemist too after that scummy counterclaim

Anything else to comment on?
Do you think there was scum bussing chemist yesterday?
What do you think of chemist's push on mario now that chemist flipped scum?

I don’t like how early the day ended, I believe scum had to do with that. One of them must have been close to a slip or something, so they wanted to end the towns discussion as soon as possible. Out of the people bussing chemist, my guess is to say that eragon and uzay are more likely scum than the others. As for Mario, I still feel uneasy about them, but chemist’s push made Mario look better in my view
by tfiosforevah
Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:34 am
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

Jezz92 wrote:it's hard to judge it based just on activity levels at the time of the wagon
like the people who were active at the time were the ones that voted chemist
the ones who were not active did not

Yeah as soon as I logged in majority had already been reached :| and I probably would’ve voted for chemist too after that scummy counterclaim
by tfiosforevah
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:57 pm
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 3 | I saw u walk on water

So if I’m reading this correctly we have a blackmailer and a goon left to get rid of?
by tfiosforevah
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:31 pm
 
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Re: VFM42 | day 2 | heart heavy

Soulshade55r wrote:
tfiosforevah wrote:I believe our next target line of questioning should be MARIO, still hasn’t provided any defense to his reasoning of lynching d1 and is overall suspicious


at a boy or girl or they/them.

Sorry didn’t mean to offend anybody irl :oops:

But my point still stands
by tfiosforevah
Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:24 pm
 
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