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UzayAltay wrote:

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Multiuniverse wrote:1. Eragon1329 Townie and contributing
2. UzayAltay Too null
3. Jamezbeast Don’t like how they’re advocating for Lukundo heaven lynch

Jamezbeast wrote:Why the heck does that Uzay vote give me a sickening feeling that the two top wagons are both town...

Why does this seems like TMI for me.

Also their whole case on town!Lukundo is TWTBAW

4. M4xwell - OK heaven target, null-town vibe
5. Jaegybomb They had the weird thunderdome thing but otherwise was ok. Not comfortable with them going to heaven as the thunderdome initially felt S v S.
7. LOLingHyena Scummy and in serveral dubious T v S situations
8. Chemist1422 Don’t like his sudden switch at end of day with no reason at all. It looked to me like he was told in mafia day chat to switch
9. ShortcutButton Townie and contributing
10. non271103 Don’t like some of his reads and posts

non271103 wrote:Updated Reads

1. Eragon1329 - Slight Town, Was quite helpful in thread since my last reads
2. UzayAltay - Lean Town, I think he is Town because at the end of yesterday, he seemed quite hesitant on who to vote, which I don't think comes from scum.
3. Jamezbeast - Lean Scum, Yes, he tr'ed me yesterday, But that only comes after me and Jal were heavily agreed on that we were TvS. Imo he wants me to flip town so he gets free towncred which fits him being scum.
4. M4xwell - Null, reasons said yesterday, but mainly bad wagon progression but still isn't helping to scumhunt. Wouldnt your reason suggests a null-scum instead
5. Jaegybomb - Scum, the wall still stands (would say PbPA, but wall sounds better so yeah)
7. LOLingHyena - Null, Only time I had interacted with him yesterday was with him wanting pressure on himself which is quite weird, I don't know how to read that honestly.
8. Chemist1422 - Slight Town, reasoning from this comes from yesterday, he did not have to switch votes from Jal to Me near EoD, I don't think mafia would do that.
9. ShortcutButton - Town - Active and Helpful
10. non271103 - Lock Town
11. Rickdaily12 - Lock Town, reasoning should be quite obvious, I would be surprised if he's scum.
12. Multiuniverse - Null, not seeing much from him, more posts would be preferable
13. TheLukundo - Lean Town, He actually seems very towny if you look at his ISO. No explanation at all
14. KingoftheRocks - Null, don't know what to think of him actually, he doesn't fit into any TvS pair
15. ManateeDude - Slight Town, don't like his reads, but I have to admit he's towny

11. Rickdaily12 Townie and contributing
13. TheLukundo Scummy and jestery
14. KingoftheRocks I think they’re OK but they said no
15. ManateeDude Town and contributing

I find it weird almost everyone is slight town reading me with dubious reasons merely stated as “good posts” in most cases

Anyway I think M4x is an OK heaven lynch

Multiuniverse wrote:Eragon1329 - Town - Contributing, Helps advance the game.

UzayAltay - Null-Town - I honestly don’t really know. None of their posts strike me either way and usually I find it hard to read them either way. Their EoD vote doesn’t strike me either way but I don’t think they cracked under Rick’s pressure and responded well so that pushed them up to null-Town.

Jamezbeast - Slight Scum - I don’t like their EoD comment that Uzay vote made them think that both wagons are town, it sounded like TMI to me to potentially get townreads later on. Their post-flip comment also sounded fake.

M4xwell - Slight Scum - Now that I reread, M4x said votes Jamez in hell phase and said that they’ll explain the vote and give a read list but they never did and I don’t think anyone held them to that so a lil bit suspicious there.

Jaegybomb - zz sorry I can’t read those 11 pages ISO atm

LOLingHyena - Null. On one hand the thunderdome was confusing and some posts of theirs sound Scummy but on the other hand they also have genuine tone and doesn’t sound too forced so that kind of balances out to Null.

Chemist1422 - Null-Town - The sudden EoD wagon shift doesn’t make sense. Initially I thought it was mafia telling scum!chemist to shift wagon so there’s less scum on Jal wagon but then Chemist also said that he thinks Non is more Scummy than Jal so maybe they panicked vote Jal??? Idk it doesn’t make sense. Otherwise I think their other posts are fine and their scum read on Luk kind of matches with mine so that might make me bias towards them and pushed them up to null-Town.

ShortcutButton - Town - I had mindmelds with them earlier on in the game and I can’t find any scummy things about them.

non271103 - Medium Scum - I disagree with their reads and I don’t like their tones.

Rickdaily12 - Town - As explained earlier I like how they said townies shouldn’t want to go to heaven so they can stay to contribute. They also contribute and work a lot to forward the discussion.

TheLukundo - Scum - I’ve explained this numerous time

KingoftheRocks - Null-Scum - Their Luk being bad for heaven reasons were just plain bad and I can’t read half of their ISOs because they didn’t type it properly and it’s confusing as hell. It could potentially be used to keep up activity whilst ensuring they don’t slip but that’s a bit angleshooty. Otherwise I’m not really impressed

ManateeDude - Town - Townie contributing and high WIM manatee.

That pings me when Re-look his ISO .
There is A lot of differences between First reads and second reads , and he Never spoke about want changed , just say This is This Because of This .

Okay , Lets look The changes at reads of Multi .
1) Me ( Null to nulltown) : The problem with his reads change on me is He start to townread me Because of A thing happen before his First reads . ( Lets look his Words )

MultiUniverse wrote:I don’t think they cracked under Rick’s pressure and responded well so that pushed them up to null-Town.

I think with pressure , he implies Rick's pressure on EOD 1 ( If This is not The case , @Multi should Correct me Because it is serious . ) , and If it is The case , it Dont happen between The reads .
2) M4xwell ( NullTown Heaven Target to Slight Scum )
It is The read change which pings me most , reason is not enough for explaining This fast change , And Reason is ( again ) not between The reads . Lets again look at The reason .

MultiUniverse wrote:Now that I reread, M4x said votes Jamez in hell phase and said that they’ll explain the vote and give a read list but they never did and I don’t think anyone held them to that so a lil bit suspicious there.

As I Said before , reason is not between reads , and Weak to fall somebody 3 tiers below .
I gtg for 15 minutes , Will post The rest of analyze when I came .

ejjinami wrote:Jamezbeast |4| ManateeDude, Chemist1422, 0verki11, non271103; Chemist1422 |2| Jaegybomb, TheLukundo; TheLukundo |1| Multiuniverse; Multiuniverse |1| Rickdaily12, Gobln; non271103 |1| UzayAltay; Eragon1329 |1| Jamezbeast; UzayAltay |1| Eragon1329

Not voting: KingoftheRocks

Countdown to the end of Hell Phase 2.

Rickdaily12 wrote:I still say we have no next play if this Mafia flips.

Hmm. God dammit though, those votes are fucking terrible. I am literally sitting myself down here and telling myself that Multi still needs to die for an association flip, and yet, just look at how fucking terrible those votes are.

God, I really don't know. Yeah, I have to admit it- at this point I want Multi killed over Chemist even still because I feel Multi's death tells us more on flip than Chemist's. Even though it's the riskier move, it's just I really feel like we lock so much more Town down if Multi is a Mafia flip, which I'm almost dead sure he's going to be.

And yet.................................

Multiuniverse wrote:Jaegy I never crushed your wagon???

Also rick I folded and voted Hyena for heaven after you answered the questions i posed against your Hyena case

I also start to think over this phase that it could be possible that Luk is town and Jamez is pocketing them...
It’s all confusing as hell

Oh my god, and Jaegy almost convinced me not to vote you even.

Yes, so you did, and yet what I said to you was pretty much already addressed. I still like my Mafia!You case more than my Town's. It has the perfect balance of you trying to run me in circles followed by listening to me for free town cred after Hyena town flips.

Completely ignoring the merits of Town!You possibly telling the truth, but only because I completely feel what Jamez says next is more honest as Town and more risky as Mafia.

Rickdaily12 wrote:

Multiuniverse wrote:

Rickdaily12 wrote:Multi, Townies can't pocket Goons.

Rickdaily12 wrote:New topic of discussion: Does anyone here think a trio of Town!Non, Town!Luk, and Mafia!Jamez could exist here?

I'm going to withhold my own input for now- I'm curious what others think for the time being.

Unless do you believe this is a possible case?

I think it’s possible

Buttttttttt improbable

You can't argue that James is pocketing Luk and think that there's no world that Luk is Town.

I'm not asking you if it's possible. I'm telling you that your views are inconsistent

Rickdaily12 wrote:Multi, Townies can't pocket Goons.

Rickdaily12 wrote:New topic of discussion: Does anyone here think a trio of Town!Non, Town!Luk, and Mafia!Jamez could exist here?

I'm going to withhold my own input for now- I'm curious what others think for the time being.

Unless do you believe this is a possible case?

TheLukundo wrote:Quick question please edit this post with your opinions on my alignment.

Demo (1) - TheLukundo

Town (0) -
Null (1) - Chemist
Scum (1) - The hardest pusher of Luk (Multi)

KingoftheRocks wrote:@Rick Not gut. I completely agree it will give beutiful interactions. And I want to laugh when he flips scum.

@multiThey're there

KingoftheRocks wrote:1. Eragon1329: Reread. As much as I liked his big-boy posts later on, I see few really solid opinions. Eragon is simply not a lynch for either phase.
2. UzayAltay: Having played scum with him, I don't see the same type of trying. But it could be because of the weird game. Uzay is simply not a lynch for either phase.
3. Jamezbeast: His posts make sense, and he got sad that no one interacted with him. Don't see that coming from mafia. But he could be useful to still have in purgatory.
4. M4xwell: Don't see why everyone has such definite opinions. Doesn't seem much other then a few pockets and genuine posts.
5. Jaegybomb: Less scummy then Hyena. Apparently people thnk that thunderdome was TvT and agree for half of it.
7. LOLingHyena: To be honest, even scum!hyena would be better for town then most other lynches. So many interactions. As much as I wish we could do it in the hell phase, I trust town!hyena in lylo more then most others anyway.
8. Chemist1422: No trhead presence and should be lynched next hell phase if Hyena flips scum.
9. ShortcutButton: My townread has dropped to a light one. They dropped significantly and I don't understand why.
10. non271103: ??? is he even in this game
11. Rickdaily12: Townread Hyena, calls Jaegey v Hyena tvt and me the scum. I don't see his townread on hyena though. And I'm not scum. But I doubt a scum team and he's forcing info out which is towny.
12. Multiuniverse: Town but pdople are right more associatsion needed.
13. TheLukundo: i dont fuking no anymore
14. KingoftheRocks: how am I suppose to care that I'm being scumread it's not like I'm the best lynch for any phase
15. ManateeDude: Towny but eh.

Rickdaily12 wrote:I'm really pushing that Jaegy and Hyena are TvT now seeing as I'm pretty sure anyone in the Mafia would have noticed this before the arguments started and prolonged as long as they did. There's no way a miscommunication like that happens inside of a Mafia chat either, so this completely was not SvS at all. Period.

Which leaves me to SR King again if I still think the trio is TvSvT.

Jaegybomb wrote:What question?

Your thunderdome was the result of you asking a question in a poorly worded manner that Hyena 100% misread.

Then when you argued about this post later in the thunderdome, it 100% clearly soared over your head that Hyena did not understand what you meant by

"Hyena scum read?"

^ wtf is this wording here, Jag?

Yeah, he didn't get it either. It became clear immediately after it was already addressed that you were really asking him for a scum read to push on, but when he read this he mistook it as you calling him Scum and this never got untangled during that entire thunderdome.

Jaegybomb wrote:I said it's possible it he didn't understand but it seemed like a weird coincidence.

It wasn't. Your wording was shitty and unclear.

Somehow that's a good thing because that clears you both of being Mafia I feel. Like, I'm nearly dead sure this never would have flown in a Mafia chat.

TheLukundo wrote:

Chemist1422 wrote:

TheLukundo wrote:

Chemist1422 wrote:I might not bother spending time defending myself, I think it might be more important to scumhunt

p-edit: because you’re active

Funny but both myself and Eragon are scum reading you. So at the end of my scum hunt currently lie yourself, M4xwell and ShortcutButton.

explain these

M4xwell for their extreme lack of contribution.

ShortcutButton seems both pocketingy(Defo a word(!)) and I feel he's tending to double bluff often. The fact that after M4xwell didn't vote ShortcutButton in response for their vote on M4xwell adds to this.(Granted she didn't OMGUS me either.)

You for your frequent shading on myself and your frequent buddying with Multiverse warns me that you are either buddying him or trying to pocket. Either way I'm worried about it and view you to flip Goon.

P-Edit, yeah Eragon I know and I understand that one the most.

Jamezbeast wrote:Why the heck does that Uzay vote give me a sickening feeling that the two top wagons are both town...

non271103 wrote:Updated Reads

1. Eragon1329 - Slight Town, Was quite helpful in thread since my last reads
2. UzayAltay - Lean Town, I think he is Town because at the end of yesterday, he seemed quite hesitant on who to vote, which I don't think comes from scum.
3. Jamezbeast - Lean Scum, Yes, he tr'ed me yesterday, But that only comes after me and Jal were heavily agreed on that we were TvS. Imo he wants me to flip town so he gets free towncred which fits him being scum.
4. M4xwell - Null, reasons said yesterday, but mainly bad wagon progression but still isn't helping to scumhunt. Wouldnt your reason suggests a null-scum instead
5. Jaegybomb - Scum, the wall still stands (would say PbPA, but wall sounds better so yeah)
7. LOLingHyena - Null, Only time I had interacted with him yesterday was with him wanting pressure on himself which is quite weird, I don't know how to read that honestly.
8. Chemist1422 - Slight Town, reasoning from this comes from yesterday, he did not have to switch votes from Jal to Me near EoD, I don't think mafia would do that.
9. ShortcutButton - Town - Active and Helpful
10. non271103 - Lock Town
11. Rickdaily12 - Lock Town, reasoning should be quite obvious, I would be surprised if he's scum.
12. Multiuniverse - Null, not seeing much from him, more posts would be preferable
13. TheLukundo - Lean Town, He actually seems very towny if you look at his ISO. No explanation at all
14. KingoftheRocks - Null, don't know what to think of him actually, he doesn't fit into any TvS pair
15. ManateeDude - Slight Town, don't like his reads, but I have to admit he's towny

LOLingHyena wrote:Actually, I just realized something. Rick, do you still think there's only one scum between me, Jaegy, and King? If so, it actually might not be a bad idea to flip one of us to resolve us. Admittedly, Jaegy would be the best option in this case, but I'm biased and think that none of us three should have an opinion on which three of us should go to heaven.

Rickdaily12 wrote:Hi Multi

Your reply please:

Rickdaily12 wrote:

ManateeDude wrote:But its weird because mafia doesnt want to NK themselves. What are your thoughts on Multi @Eragon @Rick

This pretty much sums up how I feel.

Multi voted Luk for basically the entire day. Joining him that wagon was Chemist and Jal. Had we not Town flipped Jal this would have sounded worse. His ISO is literally 100% a Lukundo tunnel. Look at all 10 of his posts. The ones I didn't find a direct mention of Luk were building on a reply he already gave about Luk, and somewhere a broken quote happens he asks wtf when someone misquoted his name somewhere incorrectly.

Like I said before, to enjoy the prospect of a Multi lynch is to not TR Lukundo at all.

You know, I thought I didn't mind a Multi Heaven lynch almost as a dare to Mafia, but going through his ISO again... the tunneling is kind of disgusting.

Rickdaily12 wrote:If anything I want Multi to be a fuck ton more active and start widening his horizons completely separate from Lukundo. In fact, once you chalk him up only into a Lukundo scum read, I really don't find that you can go many places with him at all.

Rickdaily12 wrote:Loving how Multi's most recent post is basically a prodge

and, guess who of all people Multi decides to mention in that prodge as always