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I absolutely blame myself for this, and I don't know how I would have made this any better. I was right so many times and had no support to make me feel sure that I should listen to myself, and yet I don't know how I personally could have changed it.

Schultz, the game was amazing, but if I could have changed one thing... those scum fake claims were absolutely airtight. We didn't even consider any of them. Overall, though, the actual setup was excellent.

DOCS ON LOOKOUT PLZ

notleyva wrote:Hey Mel, witch the SK into the lookout glgl

OH MY FUCKING GOD I KNEW IT.

alright, i'll end it
good luck guys

/vote ladd

I can hammer in Olly's place if you guys really want, but I don't really condone this lynch.

How the fuck did we get from having a confirmed SK to killing someone with only a 50% chance of being scum?

NO.

NO.

I REFUSE.

THIS IS FUCKING STUPID.

Wooooah WHY

Metrion wrote:I was Potassium, now I'm stripper Clover.

why am i getting consort flavor from this
how the fuck is clover a spy
i mean K i can see being a double, but... how does a stripper = spy in any way

melanora wrote:I NEED EVERYONE'S FLAVOR NAMES RIGHT NOW.

Gab. But now that Olly revealed that he got a fakeclaim, that may not matter.

OllyRenard wrote:
melanora wrote:Then again I guess Eric as the fakeclaim for Mira...

You are Mira, right?

Yes, I'm Mira. HTG hit it right on the money with the "Heart Ripper" flavor

Bottlenose wrote:what if ice was the consort?

I looked at flavor, and it's 50/50. She's female, actually the child that became Zero, but she isn't particularly... sexy... There really isn't anything that sticks out.

Metrion wrote:HTG there is so much wrong with your post.

I know
the fact that I post anything is wrong
but I swear I actually read this, how did I miss so much

*facepalm*
well, Mel probably isn't the ne
that's going somewhere

Bottlenose wrote:zzzz just lynch olly and kill me

Why, what are you? Did I miss a page or something because I'm completely lost

Bottlenose wrote:yeah it wasn't lucky it was a mafia role what's the problem

you were visited both n2 and n3 according to met

Wait met is the double spy?

OOOOOOOOH. DUH WHY DID I NOT COMPREHEND THAT

In my mind that confirms disguiser, I should have been no threat to the mafia, so they must be taking advantage of me

Bottlenose wrote:what

ladd = wakaba

it was a fake guilty anywY

wait what

I swear I read this game.

Ok, we have a confirmed TvS. That gives us a bit more flexibility with what we can do.

My proposal:
>Lynch dmsc.
>If dmsc town, Olly stabs Ladd.
>If dmsc scum, Olly stabs Wabaka slot (for the cop cc)
TIs left, just do what you can.

Bottlenose wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:
Bottlenose wrote:what is the elusive visit n1? and why was htg visited twice?

I was?

I mean I know I was roleblocked as an openly claiming citizen, but what was the other one?

lucky roleblocked you n2 probably. i don't know what visited you. an investigative of some sort was on me if i had to guess, the third role i'm not sure about. another investigative or a deception role.

If it was a mafia visit it couldn't have been Lucky... I'm not sure I understand

Bottlenose wrote:what is the elusive visit n1? and why was htg visited twice?

I was?

I mean I know I was roleblocked as an openly claiming citizen, but what was the other one?

ladd wrote:If htg posted the image of his fakeclaim in the thread to self clear as scum, that's pretty disgusting play honestly.

Not really, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to post the picture of the adorable doggo
It wasn't really meant to be AI

ElusiveBelle wrote:HtG's math was kinda nonsensical, no matter what path is taken it ends up in the same situation. Regardless of how things play out it will come down to us trying to PoE the mafia that remains. I'd rather do it in a more controlled and guaranteed way than do it without the SK personally, there is much more to gain with the SK than against it. When all is said and done it comes down to the same results of town deducing the mafia. More chances does not equal success. Just look at Episode XIII, with the SK our chances are a lot higher of doing the PoE right.

However, I will concede to the fact that there might be NE which does change things significantly. Nobody should hammer yet clearly, if there is an NE then yes lynching the SK is only option.
/Unvote

Explain that. There's a huge difference from having majority by 3 and autolosing the game, and I really don't think getting us in LyLo is really a gain in any case.

OllyRenard wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:
OllyRenard wrote:
ladd wrote:I have this feeling there is a NE in the TI claims.

This shit just doesn't make sense.

I was thinking of a neutral evil existing as well. What did you think of Ice talking about mafia kill being possibly redirected?

Woah.

If that's at all a concern, we need the SK dead. If there's a redirector, the SK is going to be redirected onto town.

It depends on whether ICE would actually bring it up or say it just to act townie.

@Ladd I'm about to go to class. I'll need to find it afterward

It doesn't matter whether ICE is scum or not, the mere possibility of a redirector introduces a risk that you are going to miss, which puts the town in even more danger, especially if we have an accidental mislynch tonight. That means there's a chance that we lose this game in the next 2 phases. I'm not willing to risk that, and I don't know how anyone else is.

OllyRenard wrote:
ladd wrote:I have this feeling there is a NE in the TI claims.

This shit just doesn't make sense.

I was thinking of a neutral evil existing as well. What did you think of Ice talking about mafia kill being possibly redirected?

Woah.

If that's at all a concern, we need the SK dead. If there's a redirector, the SK is going to be redirected onto town.

ElusiveBelle wrote:
heytheregirl17 wrote:I'll agree with that, but at this point whoever it is is so solidly established that we're not going to be able to reliably lynch them immediately. I'd recommend that the TIs check within each other tonight; we win the trade either way. If TIs are killed off, the POE gets smaller, if TIs live, they can get guilties for us. That's why I want the SK dead, it gives town the most long-term survivability so we can solve it with the most info.

You imply you know that the consort is dead and wont mess with this set up here. How can you be sure ICE was the consort then?
Then it's simply kill one off and the scum counters the roleblocked claim leaving the same mess and the needed potential for a mislynch.

Oh, good point, I forgot consort was a thing.
I checked flavor on Akane, and it's probably 50/50 that ICE was consort. The Akane character is kind of open flavor-wise, there's not really only one thing that she could be, she's not a born and bred serial killer or anything

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