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Unorthodox1337 wrote:

Lexiam wrote::(

Orth did forgive me on discord once the game was over

Only because you explained that you actually weren't paying attention, and just went off of ToS's shitty reads. Had you actually used your brain and decided to shoot me, I'd be furious.

Unorthodox1337 wrote:

ToSPlayerre wrote:Responding to Varanus:
When Uno asked me to post night results, I had already posted night results, so I legit thought he was asking what I did that night.

The "color" reads were a failed quote from D1. If you look at the top you can see they are Forgot's reads.

Okay with both an Uno and Forgot lynch: because if one is green it is VERY likely the other one is red. 50% chance for red, and 50% chance for green and then TK/D3 lynch.

Assume u r joking about Kmenx being lock town. If not then I accept my new baguette status with pride.

He's not joking. Kmenx is actually lock town atm.
And yeah, I didn't see anything wrong with your lynch targets. In fact, I thought it was an improvement as you became open minded.
And it's my fault for asking for night actions, but your fault for overreacting. Of course, it was more my fault.

slantslantslant wrote:I'd just like to throw it out there that I apologize if my posts don't have enough content.

I'm doing a lot of sitting back and observing as this is my first FM game. I'm a little bit afraid to openly make itemized accusations because people immediately go apeshit, as observed in all 24 pages of this thread.

Unorthodox1337 wrote:

ToSPlayerre wrote:

Varanus wrote:

suckable wrote:Feels like he's acting

Yeah maybe cause I'm an actor. Eh, you guys never seem to get my gender right even though we've played with each other before.

Might be able to post a reads before the day ends, I kinda don't like making reads because I'm scared of scumreading the wrong people and getting fked in the ass for it, but it's part of the game so I'll try my hardest c:

Holy shit, ^^^ exactly what I am talking about. You, Uno, YOU shut down suckable. You shot down her read list. You are responsible for this.

I did? Not sure what you're trying to point out here tbh. I think you quoted the wrong thing.
Also why are you typing in bold lmfao

Unorthodox1337 wrote:

ToSPlayerre wrote:

Unorthodox1337 wrote:
Ehhh I hate how people are referencing NFM 23 regarding their past experience. Especially Tos saying that he scumread the SK D1, especially because his scumread was essentially reading alex's character. In that game, Alex was acting super scummy and unexperienced as he normally acts, but I scumread him because I was an evil.

Everyone is talking of 23 like its the meta of FM

Unorthodox1337 wrote:
Ehhh I hate how people are referencing NFM 23 regarding their past experience. Especially Tos saying that he scumread the SK D1, especially because his scumread was essentially reading alex's character. In that game, Alex was acting super scummy and unexperienced as he normally acts, but I scumread him because I was an evil.

Varanus wrote:

suckable wrote:Feels like he's acting

Yeah maybe cause I'm an actor. Eh, you guys never seem to get my gender right even though we've played with each other before.

Might be able to post a reads before the day ends, I kinda don't like making reads because I'm scared of scumreading the wrong people and getting fked in the ass for it, but it's part of the game so I'll try my hardest c:

Unorthodox1337 wrote:

TheForgot3n1 wrote:The whole experienced player train, what the heck is the up with the memefication? It wasn't the kind of memeing where you go "haha fun meme, but let's look at this...". It was just "haha fun meme, another one, lel look im funny" with no point behind it. Sure you could argue end of day one was pointless anyway, no one was going to die. But combining the memeing with retarded attempts at quickhammering and voting makes me strongly suspect the players who were in that cluster.

Varanus,
Unortho,
Kmenx to a certain degree,

is whom I'm talking to.

Unorthodox1337 wrote:I wish you were replaced.
yadayada aggressive post as usual because I got anger management issues

Don't come into this new NFM game with a cancerous aggressive attitude AGAIN. I signed up for this NFM partly because you WEREN'T in it and I was happy you hadn't replaced in until now.

When I said you "just wanted to win", I, to me it was obvious, meant "you have a different agenda than finding evils" if you read what I wrote in CONTEXT. You seriously need to read WHOLE posts, not just what you want to read.

Yes, I apologize for saying I wish you were replaced. In heinsight, that was toxic and cancerous and I won't say that again.
It's not my fault you didn't play well in NFM 23.

Now to the real stuffs:

"retarded attempts at quickhammering" fair enough
"cancerous aggressive" you just pointed out some of your post was cancer, then laugh? at someone calling your cancerous post cancerous...
lol

Unorthodox1337 wrote:

cookieclicker33 wrote:I was controlled by a witch.

/vote Unorthodox1337

You're really getting on my nerves right now.

lol

Nevertheless, I'm not that worried on a mislynch. I know we have enough competent players to not get me hammered right away. here we are again, categorizing players into 2 groups. Those who vote for me: trash, those who dont vote for me: competent players

Top scumreads atm:
cookie
forgot3n wow, look at all this reasoning. All this glorious reasoning that somehow noone else seems to do well.

Also, funny enough, my macca memes post I guess I should've been more clear. I know that Kmenx and Varanus and Jackoderp understood what I meant though. Nevertheless, his first post was useless. 4 people out of 15 is not enough people
"helping firsttimers" fair point I suppose
"getting some discussion about strong mafia composition going" this is so stupid. true enough

This is what I meant with slant. He acted super scummy D1, but I don't think he's scum.

Unorthodox1337 wrote:

Kmenx wrote:Sevo is probably town (Unless the killler was witched/kill was transported)

I'd doubt that he would suggest mafia to kill someone after voting against them

Useless conclusion imo

Unorthodox1337 wrote:

slantslantslant wrote:

ToSPlayerre wrote:Put these off long enough. Reads below.
Spoiler: Unorthodox1337- Medium Scum. He has shot down many posts that could be helpful to the Town. He contradicts himself, and I think he is generally creating an aura of negativity, to try and keep inactives from posting. What I mean by this is he shoots down lengthy posts, in an attempt to stifle/scare people away from making other long posts, and he therefore leads the Town.
suckable- Slight Town. He did a lot of memeing, so it was hard to get a read but he did try to steer town in the right direction.
Varanus- Slight Town. He posted some walls, was generally helpful until memes. The only reason why he isnt Medium Town is because his is the only active poster Uno didnt shut down.
Jackoderp- Nothing. No real content AT ALL.
Sevohaseth- Medium Town. Was another player targeted by Uno. Had reasonable reads for the point in the game.
CAPTAINPHASMA123- Slight Town. Macca was fairly active early on, and was scumreading slant. Possibly pushing a mislynch, but at that stage any activity was good activity.
cookieclicker33- Neutral. Not super active, feels a bit scummy but I just cant quite tell.
HappyMatt369- Null. Just not enough posts at all.
mihail66- Null. Not enough content.
TandJ50- Slight Town. Active early, helpful, trying to steer the conversation towards something beneficial to the Town.
ToSPlayerre- Confirmed Town. I know my rolecard.
TheForgot3n1- Slight Town. Since I believe Uno is scum, he is Slightly Town as he and
Macca were his targets.
slantslantslant- Slight Scum. All he has done is fight his scumread furiously and sheep Uno. He doesnt have enough content to be Medium Scum though.
expertnoob1- Nothing. Not enough real content.
Kmenx- Slight Scum. Memes, reads with no reasoning, not many serious posts, and generally just a scummy attitude. Feeling a bit of sheeping Uno here as well.
Please, if you feel the need, ask for reasoning behind any read. I will back them up with quotes and such.

I don't see why fighting a scumread means I'm slight scum. Should I not have fought it?

Here's how the game going:
Those who want to lynch slant are town
Those who want to defend slant are scum

Unorthodox1337 wrote:Macca memes here
Spoiler:

MaccaMania wrote:Alright, so this is just a point that I want to bring up.
[spoiler]We have a lynch today. I doubt that we will get any solid scumreads off shitposts, and I am not willing to PL anybody in an NFM. So we are most likely going to end up not lynching today. However, there is absolutely no point in voting for a nolynch. If we can't find a suitable lynch target for the day, then we will wait for the day to come to an end. Voting for a nolynch only lowers the amount of discussion that you can get during the day, and as most of you should know discussion is extremely important in FM. FM may have the same mechanics as TOS, but it is a very different game. FM isn't just following the power roles to freelo, it is about making reads and analysing people's posts. So discussion is crucial for the Town.
So basically, if you can't be bothered to read that, just don't vote for a no-lynch and contribute to the Town often.

Anyways, just to get the discussion rolling, what do you guys think is the most dangerous mafia setup?

Personally, I think it would be GF, Blackmailer, Consigliere and Janitor.
GF because it is confirmed, Blackmailer because it can communicate with the Witch during the day, and can even communicate with its other mafia members during the day, Consigliere because it can figure out who is who and gives the mafia an advantage on who to kill and Janitor because it opens up the claim space for Mafia and destroys the method of using PoE to find out who is scum.

I don't think this contributes much personally. An entire detailed post about a D1 plan, helping firsttimers and getting some discussion about strong mafia composition going.

MaccaMania wrote:

TheForgot3n1 wrote:

cookieclicker33 wrote:

Citizens claim - Only roles with an ability are getting attacked now, gg town.

Remember NFM 23? 4 townies, 3 citizen (1 useless vigi) and 1 transporter and town STILL won. You barely need the power roles to win anyway when it's late game.

Except for the fact that the Transporter won the game for Town while the Citizens didn't do shit.

slantslantslant wrote:

cookieclicker33 wrote:

slantslantslant wrote:I don't want to lose my first FM game and lynching someone day one when we have a much bigger chance to lynch someone who's just a noob as opposed to actual scum

Isn't that like- exactly what I said?

I'm just covering my ass for when we're looking back on this after it's done so no one can say it's my fault.

This post is giving me scum vibes. I don't really know why, but It sounds like you just want to push the blame onto someone else so that no one can accuse you when we look back over Day 1.

About the idea of a mass claim Day 1, nah. It does give mafia no chance to coordinate with their claims, and we could potentially figure out most of the scumteam, but it basically just gives the scum control of the puppet strings and they can either manipulate us by using the counterclaims or they can just kill off / control all of the power claims.

About a Day 1 lynch, it depends. I didn't realise before but Day 1 goes for 5 days, that's a lot of time to realise if someone is acting very scummy. If we can't find a suitable lynch, we should just wait for the day to end and continue the discussion.

Slant said he'd prefer not to have a D1 lynch, so I don't think "covering my ass", even though extremely stupid to say and super scummy, is scummy. Read past the comma. Jesus H Christ, you first say the phrase is Super Scummy, then you say it isnt scummy... WHAT THE FUCK

MaccaMania wrote:

slantslantslant wrote:this thread is a bit slow isn't it

You see, posts like this aren't going to increase the discussion. If you want the thread to go faster, start asking some questions or something. Just talking about the inactivity of the thread isn't going to make it more active.

TheForgot3n1 wrote:So far I'm getting scumvibes from cookieClicker33 and Slantslant, and a slight townread on MaccaMania for thinking the exact same way as me (indicates he might be town).

While I appreciate the townread, I could just as easily be scum trying to buddy with you so that I can get read as town. You can't trust everyone who agrees with your read on a person, because they could just be scum trying to push a mislynch on that person.

1. Fair point.
2. Towncred pls.

MaccaMania wrote:

ToSPlayerre wrote:So we should probably run through some things.

Code/Signals: If someone is contantly posting bullshit, just once or twice a day, it could be a code. Example: in NFM 23, Uno utilized a "kek" code in which he used different variations of the word "kek" to communicate his findings as Consigilere.

Also, a good rule to have tommorow could be no capital letters. That would kill a lot of code right there.

Really, we need a bit more activity here. We have 4 pages.

D1 reads do matter. I scumread the SK D1, but he managed to buy time by mislynching mihail.

On the subject of codes...

In the morning, I want everyone to say their night results exactly the same. If people slept peacefully, they should say it like: "I slept peacefully." I want the capital I, the full stop at the end, I don't want anyone to say 'I slept peacefully last night." I just want "I slept peacefully."

This should be the first line of everybody's first post. This will prevent mafia from doing simple codes, such as using the full stop to indicate if they were witched or not. If you were witched or roleblocked, you can say so though.

Tell me why this is not contributive, thanks.

MaccaMania wrote:MINI READS LIST
The way it works is on percentages from 0-100, with 0 being confirmed scum, 50 being null and 100 being confirmed Town.

Slantslantslant - 30% I have already said which stuff is sus, plus their posts don't seem very town motivated.
TheForgot3n1 - 60% Has been posting a lot of actual decent content for the town to work with, has been scum reading actively.
TosPlayerre - 65% Asking questions to town at the start of the game to try to bring discussion, responding to topics well and although isn't that activity, still acting very townlike.
Pucca25 - 75% Hardclaimed Cit very early in the day, I don't think that scum would risk making a claim Day 1, even if it is Citizen.
Sevohaseth - 60% Actively contributing to the Town, posted a read list quite early on which was helpful.
Expertnoob10 - 35% - Refused to give reads, has barely contributed anything useful to the town, admitted to lurking a lot.
HappyMatt - 45% - I don't know why, but something just seems off with their posts. When he said how making walls is townlike during his wall, that just kind of made me doubt.
Mihail - 40% - The way he claimed that he doesn't scumreads until he finds as obvious scum was weird, other than that idk really.
Varanus - 55% - They replaced in for someone very inactive, but their posts so far have been proving that they are trying to help out the town.

Slant- k
Forgot3n- Mm I don't like your second reason
Tos- ehh
Pucca- What the fuck, I didn't even see someone hardclaimed. Fucks' sakes...
Sevo- kek
Expert- k
Happy- meh
Mihail- Oh, I need to see that again.
Varanus- I don't like Varanus, but that's just because he's a weaboo.

And you dissed Macca for having no reasoning. "K" "ehh" "kek"
[/spoiler]

Eh, neutral now. I understand his POV.
Looking at Tos/Forgot3n now. Maybe mihail/cookie later.

Unorthodox1337 wrote:Why are TosPlayerre and TandJ50 ignoring the game? They have both obviously reviewed the events of the game, yet both have failed to post their night actions.

slantslantslant wrote:

ToSPlayerre wrote:/vote slantslantslant

Notice how once noone voted him he went silent for several pages.

Notice how he just claimed Town and then never responded again.

Notice how everything Kmenx has posted thus far has been a shitpost

Scumreads:
All slight but:
Kmenx
Slant
Macca

I went to sleep you chode. Just because someone isn't participating in sever auti- I mean memeing doesn't mean they're scum