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Dragonfire77111 wrote:

ElusiveBelle wrote:So saucy, at least was just a Cit though. Leaves more room for goobering about and I was right on the Mela call at the least which is nice.

Oh yeah, sorry to you and S0meone for completely misreading you guys, and for not being the Warlock of your dreams ;)

One bad day is no big deal.
I've had an entire game on tilt before.

murat1996 wrote:Hmm not liking Chit rn, but I look into this later.

So are we keen on lynching S0me0ne right now or wait a bit?

Make your own decisions.

chitownmvp01 wrote:

S0me0ne23 wrote:Don't abuse the term NAI. I'm accusing you of knowingly pushing a mislynch. Knowingly pushing a mislynch is not NAI.

That is obvious, but from your perspective. Scum would obviously say that in your current situation. :roll:

Feel free to keep trying, but you're argument is clearly flawed.

I see we have reached the "no you're scum" deadlock.
I'm afraid that continuing this will go nowhere, so I think we should agree to let this be settled out, for now.

Don't abuse the term NAI. I'm accusing you of knowingly pushing a mislynch. Knowingly pushing a mislynch is not NAI.

chitownmvp01 wrote:

S0me0ne23 wrote:

chitownmvp01 wrote:S0me0ne another question for you is why would a townie not want their top scum read lynched? You're literally scum reading me because I want to lynch my top scum read over a lower one.

Don't misinterpret my accusation.
I accused you of pushing me because you thought I was town.
It seems that you understood that until this point, so I'm calling bs.

I understand your argument. I just made it invalid and you aren't admitting that.

So you saying that you're town invalidates any argument that you're scum?

chitownmvp01 wrote:S0me0ne another question for you is why would a townie not want their top scum read lynched? You're literally scum reading me because I want to lynch my top scum read over a lower one.

Don't misinterpret my accusation.
I accused you of pushing me because you thought I was town.
It seems that you understood that until this point, so I'm calling bs.

ChubbyMooshroom9 wrote:

S0me0ne23 wrote:Chubby, it's rigged because:
If I say yes, it implies I'm singling him out (not true)
If I say no, it implies I have no legitimate reason to scumread him (also not true)
I stated my reasoning and I'm not going to let it get twisted against me.

Both of those are true

I'm doing exactly what chit is doing, and your read on him is literally OMGUS

Why would I scumread you for playing to chito's scum meta?
That makes literally no sense.

Oh yes chito tell me more about how chubby is playing to your scum meta.

Chubby, it's rigged because:
If I say yes, it implies I'm singling him out (not true)
If I say no, it implies I have no legitimate reason to scumread him (also not true)
I stated my reasoning and I'm not going to let it get twisted against me.

chitownmvp01 wrote:

S0me0ne23 wrote:

chitownmvp01 wrote:In general, what do you think of the voting pattern that you're accusing me of?

I don't understand what you're asking me.
I think that you're thinking that elusive might flip scum, so you'd prefer to lynch me. This makes me think that you're scum.
Have I not been clear or am I just misunderstanding the question?

You're not understanding the question or you're intentionally dodging it. Let me rephrase.

Hypothetical scenario:

A player is voting in the same pattern. Would you scum read them for it?

You're trying to intentionally make me look scummy by asking a rigged question.
You're trying to say that I'm singling out you by only scumreading you for a tell.
You're doing this to discredit me in the same way my push on kmenx was discredited.
However, I caught on to what you're doing.
I'm specifically scumreading you because your behavior matches your scum meta.
You saw how kmenx got off scotch-free by virtue of me apparently singling out.
Stop trying to trick me into making my read look like a baseless accusation.
It will only make me scumread you more.

chitownmvp01 wrote:In general, what do you think of the voting pattern that you're accusing me of?

I don't understand what you're asking me.
I think that you're thinking that elusive might flip scum, so you'd prefer to lynch me. This makes me think that you're scum.
Have I not been clear or am I just misunderstanding the question?

chitownmvp01 wrote:

S0me0ne23 wrote:Do I need to scumread chubby based on your scum meta and not his own?

Do you think my vote patterns are scummy in general or only for me?

^
Rigged question imo.
If I say your vote pattern matches up with your scum meta, then it's not "omg this is scummy for only chit" but me trying to look at individual cases instead of generalizing scumtells.

Do I need to scumread chubby based on your scum meta and not his own?

teamalex wrote:Fencesitting is a terrible reason for scumreading, except for some specific situations. I should take a look at his other games though. If he has done it in other games then it's NAI for him for sure.

I can sort of see why he voted Kmenx. I'll take a look at Dragon's posts in a moment.

It's not as much fencesitting=scummy
chito feels like the type who has an interpretation and will tell you it without hesitation or shying away, so him not having done that struck as odd. I also recently played a game (vfm6) in which I townread chit and he flipped scum, and it struck me as strange how similar his town and scum metas seem imo.
Another thing, which is hard for me to prove is his voting pattern. In vfm6, he was caught by it, in which he prefferred to lynch the person who would flip town, but would also be ok with lynching the scum, which seems to be his attitude with me and elusive (although I doubt they're on the same scumteam).
I get the impression that chito is the type that people give a reckless townread on and move on, but I do think there is a good possibility that chito might flip scum.

Nah it's fine I'll unfoe him when he stops tunneling.
I already have a read on him, so there's no point in me reading his posts if he's just going to repeat the same stuff over and over.

Kmenx wrote:

S0me0ne23 wrote:Give me a single quote where I said I thought dragon was scum. I dare you.

It is not about that part like why did you even FoE dragon?

Because him tunneling me is triggering me so I'd rather not read his posts.

Give me a single quote where I said I thought dragon was scum. I dare you.

Dragon, I was never scum reading you so ??????
I'm foeing you.

When you discuss someone (hah play on words) ad nauseam, any scumread is a "desperate attempt to save themselves".
/unvote
/vote elusivebelle

dragon v
paranoid v
forg v

Elusive's read on dragon is pinging me as scummy. It seems more like a scapegoat attempt for when I flip town than a legit read. Dragon's push on me is really townie, even though it is just a poorly thought out tunnel.
I'm cool with lynching elusive if others agree to it.

chitownmvp01 wrote:Dragon you said that Elusive is mixing you up with S0me0ne, yet Elusive hasn't acknowledged it. Thoughts on that?

I really don't like this post.
Especially since Elusive has elaborated on the subject.

Don't think it's possible Elusive and chito are on the same scumteam.
I don't know how to feel about elusive, so I'm gonna put off doung that read until later today.

The reason why I said that I think kmenx was coasting wasn't about posting or posting frequency or whatever I'm being accused of. He was responding to stuff and posting (indicating that he might not have been inactive), but wasn't posting thoughts on players (indicating that he might have been coasting). This is what I mean by there's a difference. It seemed like he was trying to go unnoticed by not actually posting any reads. It was only a slight scumread, and I just wanted to press him on it, so I don't understand why I'm being tunneled so hard.

Dragonfire I wasn't pressing him for being inactive. Inactivity and coasting are two different things.
Please stop pushing me for something I didn't do.

Jacko you've seen me play scum in milte's game.

Kmenx wrote:

S0me0ne23 wrote:Kmenx, then why did you vote me in retaliation? That seems kind of blown out of proportion.

I voted you because of your nonsense a town member would give an actual reason for their ''accusations''

Saying my reasoning was bad would be one thing.
Saying I didn't have any reasoning is entirely different.
I gave a reason (coasting) for having a slight scumread on you, and instead of just responding to being pressed, you go out of your way to accuse the person who's pressing you.