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How to All-Any (Coven Suggestions?)

Postby Descender » Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:48 pm

All-Any can be one of the hardest modes in the game, with VFR being impossible to use, and anything being able to happen, so I have decided to post this All-Any Strategy guide. I will probably post it and Update things from there if it seems unfinished.

Basic Skills
Spoiler: -Don't lynch executioners unless they side against you.
-Try to make deals with jesters so you can get a susp person killed and lynch sus/jestery people with Trial-By-Jester (TBJ).
-If not experienced with invest always have a invest tab open (even if familar you should have it) exa. http://town-of-salem-investigator-results.wikia.com/wiki/Investigator_Results
-Be prepared for mind games
-Jailors/vig should not kill exe/jester, it is a waste of useful kills.

I obviously didn't put everything so ask me questions below and I will add it this.

Survivor
Spoiler: For some reason, everybody thinks D1S (Day 1 Survivor) is the way to play it. This is completely wrong, and you should never do this. Ever. The better strategy is to ask for an investigative role to look at you, but still don't claim survivor at the same time. Even if they don't or there are no investigatives you shouldn't die. If you feel like mafia thinks you are an important town, say that you don't care what investigative role, even if witch or mafia please look at me and claim invest.

This works rather well, but still could be improved.


Werewolf
Spoiler: Now this is were the mind games begin. The best strat at the moment is the sherrif-exe-ww strat. Basicly you do the sherrif-exe strat (shown in the exe area) and then don't attack until late game.

Edit-This strat is outdated, just be a passive ww.


All Town
Spoiler: It is the same as usual, but now you can fake claim. Or just claim godfather either works. But even if you are an important role, never. Claim. Surv.

Bg-Go for the surv claims, they are usually attacked, if they aint it is sus.
Vig-Late game does well here.
Doc-Stick to TIs, if they don't get attacked they sus.
Mayor-Revealing day 1 has never worked better! Just be careful for vamps.
Vet-Try not to be sus, or claim surv. Claiming TI may work, but there will be townie genocide.
Escort-Confirm people non mafia-killing and non-sk. Most of the time you have a gf or a mafioso, not both. Inv/Sherrif- Go for a will like this-
Investigator
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Serial Killer
Spoiler: It's already hard as sk, it's even harder here. You either have to go full on aggressive or full on passive, with passive working better. Always have your will ready, and try to abuse spy powers to kill mafia before they lynch you. Also, attack a suspect exe, then claim you healed them and saved their life. Instant confirmation.

Witch
Spoiler: Nothing to add here, same as ranked. One thing is, although unlikely to work due to countering, always claim lo and always have a will.

Arsonist
Spoiler: Don't light until late game, don't claim bg because then they will realize that you are dousing people rather than you are being doused, other than that choose a role other than medium (although the medium slaughter has ended it still lingers around)

Edit- Claiming doc works well.


Amnesiac
Spoiler: Just put this in for the sake of it, just do LGA (Late Game Amnesiac) and you should be fine.

Mafia
Spoiler: Always have your investigator tab open, even if unlimited use roles are here don't always use, Godfather can take use of the arsonist strat but it is risky.

Vampires
Spoiler: Name vampires with numbers to avoid vh attacks. If there is a known investigative try to act slightly jestery.

Executioner
Spoiler: Talk about the sherrif-exe-ww strat and then reveal that you are sherrif, and that you just found mafia. It is funny enough to make people not question it. This is the sherrif-exe strat.

I obviously didn't include all roles and all information, so if any info needed or any strats suggested post down below. I will update when possible and try to fill it in as well.

Please comment some coven tips below.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby koopi15 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:01 am

I always play all any therefore Ranked is harder for me.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby theyellowgreninja » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:49 pm

koopi15 wrote:I always play all any therefore Ranked is harder for me.

And I'm the exact opposite. I'm used to having 4 and only 4 mafia, and like 9 town friends, and a basic idea of what's going on, and all any takes all of that and shoves it into a fiery, catastrophic pit of death.


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Re: How to All-Any

Postby greenrabbit7 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:12 pm

I play all any so it helps me scumread.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby Heylel » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:59 am

Ranked mode has obvious role list, therefore I say all any is harder.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby itslitatthenightsh0w » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:45 am

How to All-Any: click x then play a real gamemode, like Classic.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby Phone0Ix » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:43 am

Heli this is a great guide. Is it ok to post a link of it in my beginner guide thread?
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby strenuus » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:11 pm

Ive played both.

I'm vastly superior to everyone in both modes.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby Descender » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:26 pm

Sure Phone01x. It is getting a little outdated, I will edit it soon.
Also strenuus, whats your win rate?
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby Descender » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:46 pm

Update- Added some details, like some single roles in townie, a ww update, and a sk update.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby Cut » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:01 am

I honestly think loads of these tips are questionable.

- Hang Exe's when they're identified. They'll mess up the votes later in the game when they turn into a Jester, or end up siding with evils to get their target hanged. Only keep them alive if they've already won, as often they're nice enough to pay you back for the townie you took.

- I think Jailor using an exe on exe/jester is often a good call as voting in all any is already hard enough, without the vote splitting caused by these losers.

- The Exe tips are years outdated. So much smarter to claim Lookout/Escort/Inv depending on the situation.

- Survivor is probably best played by claiming early game because any competent player will lynch a Survivor claim on sight if it's made during a late-game rolecall, where hidden Arsonist's masquerading around as Survivors are commonplace. Claiming early game will also often get you checked by a TI, I've found. Asking for a TI can work, but claiming late-game is stupid imo.

- Valuable town roles usually can buy themselves a decent amount of days by claiming surv or another passive neutral d1. All any players are notoriously bad, so they almost always go for kills on people they won't think are immune instead of checking claims that can side with them.

Some of the other stuff like Witch/SK etc is pretty accurate though, imo.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby Chemist1422 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:02 am

As survivor, I'd ask for TI on you and if you can't get any don't claim survivor.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby Descender » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:47 pm

yup, thats what I do too... Is that not what it is?

Yeah, it is, but it asks for any Investigative. It's that because All-Any Chaos, you can't lean to one side, as then the other side kills you.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby Descender » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:33 am

I just realized this post was here so I feel like I need to explain some things.
Cut wrote:I honestly think loads of these tips are questionable.

- Hang Exe's when they're identified. They'll mess up the votes later in the game when they turn into a Jester, or end up siding with evils to get their target hanged. Only keep them alive if they've already won, as often they're nice enough to pay you back for the townie you took. You now have a confirmed townie and a possible jester to use to your advantage.

- I think Jailor using an exe on exe/jester is often a good call as voting in all any is already hard enough, without the vote splitting caused by these losers.Voting in all-any is fine for me, and jailor using up one of 3 kills is never a good idea.

- The Exe tips are years outdated. So much smarter to claim Lookout/Escort/Inv depending on the situation. No, talking about the exe-ww-sherrif strat D1 and then mentioning the irony day 2 is a relatively new strat, and it has literally never failed for me.

- Survivor is probably best played by claiming early game because any competent player will lynch a Survivor claim on sight if it's made during a late-game rolecall, where hidden Arsonist's masquerading around as Survivors are commonplace. Claiming early game will also often get you checked by a TI, I've found. Asking for a TI can work, but claiming late-game is stupid imo. Are you saying to use D1S? I never said claim late game but doing D1S is surv suicide. And NOT lynching D1Sers is saying 'yeah, I know you did a strat which shows you are probably bad, but you can live'.

- Valuable town roles usually can buy themselves a decent amount of days by claiming surv or another passive neutral d1. All any players are notoriously bad, so they almost always go for kills on people they won't think are immune instead of checking claims that can side with them. I made a post on all-any stereotypes already and this is why. All-Any players have to deal with literally anything and claiming surv as town is getting mafia to attack you. If all-any players are so bad, you try playing in a 4 town game with 2 town dead early game and winning.

Some of the other stuff like Witch/SK etc is pretty accurate though, imo.


Also, if anyone here has coven would you mind giving some tips? I don't have it myself and it would be useful for the guide.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby UzayAltay » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:13 am

My suggestions :

Surv : D1S is Actually good . The problematic thing about Surv is If You Dont D1S , you can only win with arso , ww ( w/reveal at very late Game ) and town (w/o revealing ) Because Mafia Will hang You when they had chance . If You D1S , You can win with everybody but You Will always be as A lynch possibility . Both seems fine TBH .

Ww : Passive ww is risky strategy , The best seems attacking High priority targets and try to make as many as kills possible .

Town :

TP : Goes for The persons which You think is town .
Vig : No much tactic here .
Vet : VFR Day 2 and alert Night 2 :)
Mayor : Revealing Day 1 , Than control The lynches .
Esc : Same with The Heilercooler's . And , If there is no kill on A night You RB somebody ( who isnt confirmed town ) , RB them again .
Med : Claim Day 1, give any info to town .
Trans : Claim Day 3 If You see no ww kill , Than act Like A Mayor who Had 1 vote and protect theirselves .
Retri : Interestingly , I am suggesting reviving early , bc Even You are 100/100 confirmed , Mafia wont kill You . Than , control The Game.
LO : Same as TP .
Spy : Claim Day 2. If You find sb Witched who Dont Claim it , call it out .
Sher / Inv : What to write ? Just reveal If You find scum , Dont keep it to yourself .
SK : TI or TK claims Work good here , Because of You may need to lynch Other NKs and Mafia , and it is hard to Do it without A TK ( generally vig) or TI claim.
Witch : Communicate with other allies , help other Scums , etc . Nothing special here .
Arso : Try to Douse players who are More likely to stay in endgame .
İgnite when You had Everyone doused , or Everyone Except 1 doused .

Amnesiac : It has A lot of strategy , but fly under radar for not night killed .
Mafia : Communicate with allies , control The Day , Nothing special here . Speak with your allies at night .
Vampire : Dont speak at vamp chat ( VH possibility , If You know for sure no VH , Than You can speak) ,Try to convert trusted players .
Exe / Jester : This had So many tactics , OP is one of them .
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby TheDebil » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:30 am

all any is literally the meme mode there is no skill involved , all you need to do as town is convert into a vamp and lynch some random guy who is trying
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby Descender » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:56 pm

Probably my last post on the forum, but here I go.

TheDebil wrote:all any is literally the meme mode there is no skill involved , all you need to do as town is convert into a vamp and lynch some random guy who is trying

Actually try playing, it is hard.

I am fed up this.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby TheDebil » Sun Nov 04, 2018 3:20 pm

Helicooler wrote:Probably my last post on the forum, but here I go.

TheDebil wrote:all any is literally the meme mode there is no skill involved , all you need to do as town is convert into a vamp and lynch some random guy who is trying

Actually try playing, it is hard.

I am fed up this.


try not playing, its easier to win that way. im not kidding.

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Re: How to All-Any

Postby Descender » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:14 pm

Thanks for the suggestion! I am literally doing it.
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Re: How to All-Any

Postby greenrabbit7 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:15 pm

Helicooler wrote:Thanks for the suggestion! I am literally doing it.


Helicooler, please don't leave the fourms man. You're a cool guy.
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Re: How to All-Any (Coven Suggestions?)

Postby Descender » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:18 am

Everybody, does anyone have any coven suggestions?
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Re: How to All-Any (Coven Suggestions?)

Postby Nekrotix » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:32 am

I can tell ya All Any is sure as hell more fun than classic. Especially as jester. All you gotta do to win as Jester in All Any is claim surv day 1 and just play as if you were a really quiet survivor.
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Re: How to All-Any (Coven Suggestions?)

Postby UzayAltay » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:47 pm

Helicooler wrote:Everybody, does anyone have any coven suggestions?

TBH I don't own Coven .
But The strategies are quite similiar Actually , so I Dont think explanation for Coven is needed much .
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Re: How to All-Any (Coven Suggestions?)

Postby Descender » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:43 am

Sorry, I just didn't see it. I've got coven now so I'll be sure to keep it in mind for the All-Any Guide Coven Edition.
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Re: How to All-Any (Coven Suggestions?)

Postby Descender » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:44 am

Sorry, I just didn't see it. I've got coven now so I'll be sure to keep it in mind for the All-Any Guide Coven Edition, or ACE.
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