When to shoot a fellow townie, when not to

[Mathelete]

If you shoot a fellow townie just because they call for VFR and you disagree, you're GAMETHROWING

If you shoot a fellow townie just because you don't like their name, you're GAMETHROWING

If you shoot a fellow townie because you think they are more harmful than helpful to the town, and you believe that you will increase town's chances of winning, then that is okay.

Example: Mayor calls for VFR. Vig decides they don't want it so they shoot the mayor. That is GAMETHROWING
Example 2: Mayor is gamethrowing and helping mafia by lynching townies. Vig shoots mayor so the remaining townies can hang the last mafia and win. That is okay.

I know this seems like common sense, but I need to get it out there. I just played a game where town barely won (it was quite close), and it wouldn't have been that close had vig not shot the mayor. In dead chat, vig said "I don't care, if anyone calls for VFR, I shoot them, even if they're town. Ban me as many times as you like"

[Purple998]

I'm pretty sure that shooting a mayor as a vigilante is gamethrowing, no matter what the mayor is doing.

[GoogleFeud]

I'm pretty sure that shooting a mayor as a vigilante is gamethrowing, no matter what the mayor is doing.

Shooting a gamethrowing mayor is not gamethrowing. (Mayor that lynches confirmed townies for example)

Let's say mayor revealed before that and lynched a townie with a good will
5 townies - 1 revealed mayor, 1 vigi with 2 bullets, 1 sheriff ,1 lookout and a jailor. A GF that's confirmed via the lookout is also in the game.
Mayor purposefully lynches the jailor.
The same night the vigi shoots the mayor and maf kills the lookout.
2 town vs 1 mafia = town wins.

[JoltikIsDubby]

When not to shoot: N2

Moral: Just because you can shoot doesn't mean you're obligated to.

Seriously, I can't tell you how many times a Vig. has randomly shot someone N2, and how many times they've ended up being town.

[Amythyr]

When not to shoot: N2

Moral: Just because you can shoot doesn't mean you're obligated to.

Seriously, I can't tell you how many times a Vig. has randomly shot someone N2, and how many times they've ended up being town.

Wait...People really shoot on N2?

[Shilster]

Actually, shooting someone for their name is Harassment.

[JoltikIsDubby]

When not to shoot: N2

Moral: Just because you can shoot doesn't mean you're obligated to.

Seriously, I can't tell you how many times a Vig. has randomly shot someone N2, and how many times they've ended up being town.

Wait...People really shoot on N2?

In Classic (I play Classic every now and then for free stat boosts), Vigilantes almost always shoot N2. I guess it's because they think it's okay to shoot since they have the option to, which I think is just stupid.

[Mathelete]

When not to shoot: N2

Moral: Just because you can shoot doesn't mean you're obligated to.

Seriously, I can't tell you how many times a Vig. has randomly shot someone N2, and how many times they've ended up being town.

Wait...People really shoot on N2?

In Classic (I play Classic every now and then for free stat boosts), Vigilantes almost always shoot N2. I guess it's because they think it's okay to shoot since they have the option to, which I think is just stupid.

To be fair, it might be their first time ever being a vigilante, and they are probably like "Let's use my abilities! Hmm...this person seems sus cause they were whispering, let's shoot them!" Classic Mode consists of many new players who have never been a certain role before.

[TheCatCovenantDude]

I'm pretty sure that shooting a mayor as a vigilante is gamethrowing, no matter what the mayor is doing.

no. shooting a gamethrowing mayor to let the town win would not be gamethrowing.

[Descender]

Shooting mayor as vig is still pretty dodgy, even if it means winning the game. If you are reported the mods might not have the same context (for whatever reason) and you could end up being locked out of your account. It is a very thin line to tread on, because you could see it as gamethrowing against gamethrowing.

[UzayAltay]

Shooting mayor as vig is still pretty dodgy, even if it means winning the game. If you are reported the mods might not have the same context (for whatever reason) and you could end up being locked out of your account. It is a very thin line to tread on, because you could see it as gamethrowing against gamethrowing.

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Gamethrowing

1.Shooting or executing a confirmed town. A player is only considered confirmed town, for reporting purposes, if the player is 100% proven and cannot be any other role. EXCEPTION: It is acceptable to kill a confirmed town that is blatantly siding against town, if it is in the best interest of the town.

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So no , it is not Like You Said , Unless You somehow prove otherwise .

[Descender]

A few times this can happen-

If the mayor is thinking he is siding with town but isn't
If the mayor has been tricked
If the mayor has been fed framed information by confirmed townies

If the vigilante accidentally falls to this you can get a guilty report if unlucky.

[UzayAltay]

A few times this can happen-

If the mayor is thinking he is siding with town but isn't
If the mayor has been tricked
If the mayor has been fed framed information by confirmed townies

If the vigilante accidentally falls to this you can get a guilty report if unlucky.

You could easily see The difference between tricked Mayor and GTing Mayor . I cant see A scenario which which it couldnt seen .

[Descender]

Neither could I, until it happened. Since I joined I have saw this many times.

Note-a lot of those times it was me making mayor do it.

[kosmo16]

When not to shoot: N2

Moral: Just because you can shoot doesn't mean you're obligated to.

Seriously, I can't tell you how many times a Vig. has randomly shot someone N2, and how many times they've ended up being town.

Wait...People really shoot on N2?

You should never say never. I remember I had a game where I shot an evil N2, N3 and N4. Guess what, Town still lost. Why I shot N2? With 3/4 Townies dead and all evils alive D2 you really don't have other choice.

[TheDebil]

wdym? vigi can only shoot the confirmed mayor anyway, is anything else possible?

[Mathelete]

When not to shoot: N2

Moral: Just because you can shoot doesn't mean you're obligated to.

Seriously, I can't tell you how many times a Vig. has randomly shot someone N2, and how many times they've ended up being town.

Wait...People really shoot on N2?

You should never say never. I remember I had a game where I shot an evil N2, N3 and N4. Guess what, Town still lost. Why I shot N2? With 3/4 Townies dead and all evils alive D2 you really don't have other choice.

The best night 2 shot would be anyone who is acting like an obvious jester on day 2.

[kosmo16]

When not to shoot: N2

Moral: Just because you can shoot doesn't mean you're obligated to.

Seriously, I can't tell you how many times a Vig. has randomly shot someone N2, and how many times they've ended up being town.

Wait...People really shoot on N2?

You should never say never. I remember I had a game where I shot an evil N2, N3 and N4. Guess what, Town still lost. Why I shot N2? With 3/4 Townies dead and all evils alive D2 you really don't have other choice.

The best night 2 shot would be anyone who is acting like an obvious jester on day 2.

Not true. I saw that few times and an obvious jester was the Mayor or Jailor. Some people play like that.

[itslitatthenightsh0w]

One time I was vig and i random shot the jailor day 2. Not my fault he was a casual that acted like scum kek. Call me the vig lord

[Descender]

day 2, you mean night 2, you cant shoot night 2, so you mean night 3, where you did a random shot, and you made this up for the trolls.

Damn you are funny.