Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

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too OP to fit in-game
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needs a complete rework to even be semi-acceptable
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needs to be trashed altogether
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Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby Hockenszn » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:48 pm

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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby fwogcarf » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:24 pm

Isn't this just a more awkward witch?
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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby Hockenszn » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:24 pm

fwogcarf wrote:Isn't this just a more awkward witch?

honestly it does resemble witch but I was going for a heavily modified transporter.
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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby Kombinator1991 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:25 am

Trans would be immune. Making jailor execute himself would be hillarious.

Since town is currently OP in ranked this could make some nice boost to maf.
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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby Hockenszn » Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:24 pm

Kombinator1991 wrote:Trans would be immune. Making jailor execute himself would be hillarious.

Since town is currently OP in ranked this could make some nice boost to maf.

Thanks! :D
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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby Mathelete » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:55 am

Kombinator1991 wrote:Trans would be immune. Making jailor execute himself would be hillarious.

Since town is currently OP in ranked this could make some nice boost to maf.


Jailor wouldn't be able to execute themself since they'd have to jail themself. They only execute if they visit the person they jailed.
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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby Mystoc » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:00 pm

this is a better consort can make vig kill themselves and trick TI results, this also can force doc to waste his self heal very strong, mafia needs strong roles but not if it makes one older role useless

look at forger janitor and u can see why its bad
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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby Kombinator1991 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:59 am

Mathelete wrote:
Kombinator1991 wrote:Trans would be immune. Making jailor execute himself would be hillarious.

Since town is currently OP in ranked this could make some nice boost to maf.


Jailor wouldn't be able to execute themself since they'd have to jail themself. They only execute if they visit the person they jailed.


Technically it's just an unstoppable attack, that can only target the jailed person. It can be manipulated by witch for example. Also it might give a reason to jailor to be less trigger happy.
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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby Kombinator1991 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:01 am

Mystoc wrote:this is a better consort can make vig kill themselves and trick TI results, this also can force doc to waste his self heal very strong, mafia needs strong roles but not if it makes one older role useless

look at forger janitor and u can see why its bad


Forger can be specially usefull, but requires more, than just click on stuff. It needs a bit preparation, and knowing the target's role. However it can seriously trick town into lynching each other. But you are correct. The reflector would make consort obselete. Maybe a reverse mechanic, or a limitation could solve that.

Reverse mechanic: choose target, and actions on that target will be reflected.

Limitation is obvious. Like you may only reflect 3 times in a game. Similar to janitor's cleaning.
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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby Hockenszn » Sun Dec 23, 2018 1:00 pm

Kombinator1991 wrote:Limitation is obvious. Like you may only reflect 3 times in a game. Similar to janitor's cleaning.

Added limitation into attributes
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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby goldtrotter » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:24 pm

Great minds think alike.

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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby lemonader666 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:18 pm

I've been seeing alot of nerfed consorts recently.
Let's compare this to consort:
Pros:
+Kills vig
+Hurts SK/Jugg/Arso
+Can hurt escort
Cons:
+3-shot, MAJOR
+Worse against TIs, TPs
Booooo
Either buff it so that it's not similar to witch/a consort clone(as in giving it infinite uses would just make it a consort clone), or scrap it.

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Re: Mafia Deception idea: Reflector

Postby Kombinator1991 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:59 am

lemonader666 wrote:I've been seeing alot of nerfed consorts recently.
Let's compare this to consort:
Pros:
+Kills vig
+Hurts SK/Jugg/Arso
+Can hurt escort
Cons:
+3-shot, MAJOR
+Worse against TIs, TPs
Booooo
Either buff it so that it's not similar to witch/a consort clone(as in giving it infinite uses would just make it a consort clone), or scrap it.


Actually it's great against TI, and TP. Ensures, that TP self protect wasted, and makes sure, that TP does not protect others. On TI it's even better. Target is not notified. It means, that Ti not just can't invest the intended target, but even get false result. Confirmed dead sheriff gets NS on mafia members for example. Or Invest get lots of consig/invest results, and start lynching townies for it.
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