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Mimic

Postby BlueKnight0729 » Thu May 14, 2015 7:36 am

Hello everyone! It's been quite a while since I've been here and I've decided to come back. I've noticed some changes in the Role Ideas thread and as far as I can see the Masterthread of roles is no longer there? So if this has already been suggested, I apologize.

Mimic

Alignment: Neutral(Evil) (UNIQUE)

Abilities: Copy someone's ability at night and use it on someone else.

Attributes: You cannot copy someone's ability two nights in a row
You cannot imitate the power of Neutral Killing or Mafia Killing roles, Unique roles, roles with no night ability, or roles who have to target the dead or two people.

Goal: Live to see the town die

Sheriff sees: Your target is not suspicious
Invest sees: Your target works with secret information, they must be a Mimic, Spy, or Blackmailer.
Consigliere sees: Your target imitates others, he must be a Mimic
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Re: Mimic and/or Taskmaster

Postby JamesOfNorthshire » Thu May 14, 2015 9:28 am

That's a pretty long list of ineligible targets.

That said, the Mayor has no Night Ability to copy anyway.

Will you know what you copied?
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Re: Mimic and/or Taskmaster

Postby transportowiec96 » Thu May 14, 2015 9:40 am

Interesting roles but...
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Re: Mimic and/or Taskmaster

Postby BlueKnight0729 » Thu May 14, 2015 2:29 pm

transportowiec96 wrote:Interesting roles but...
One role is just renamed first one and with changed aligment and goal.

Well yes, they are equivalents of each other. I made it that way so it's easy to make notes for Investigative roles, as I didn't know where else I could put them.
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Re: Mimic and/or Taskmaster

Postby BlueKnight0729 » Thu May 14, 2015 2:35 pm

JamesOfNorthshire wrote:That's a pretty long list of ineligible targets.

That said, the Mayor has no Night Ability to copy anyway.

Will you know what you copied?

Well here's the list: All are for balancing reasons or because it would be impossible to make it work properly

Godfather, Mafioso, Serial Killer, Werewolf, Arsonist, Mayor, Retributionist, Medium, Amnesiac, Witch, Transporter, Consigliere, or Jailor.

If the Mimic/Taskmaster had the ability to copy Killing roles, it would be ridiculously overpowered. End of story. Same with Consigliere, as it's ability to find exact roles would prove way to useful for the town to be able to know. Mayor and Medium have no night abilities, so that's pretty obvious. Lastly, the Witch, Retri, Amnesiac, Transporter, and Jailor. Jailor's target is chosen during the day, the Witch, and Trans have to target two people, and the Amne and Retri have to target a dead person, all of which the Mimic and Taskmaster are unable to do, so those wouldn't work. I'm thinking about changing it to "Unique roles, Killing roles other than Vigilante, and Targets with no night abilities that can be copied" to simplify it.

And no, you wouldn't know who you copied, unless of course, you are to get an investigative note, which would make it pretty obvious what your target's role is, which makes me thing the Mimic should have a limit to the number of copies he should have.
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Re: Mimic/Taskmaster

Postby BlueKnight0729 » Thu May 14, 2015 2:38 pm

Ok, update, I changed it to just one neutral evil role, as making it town would complicate things a lot and in order to make it balanced, you would have to limit a lot of roles, so for the sake of simplicity, it's just one role.
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Re: Mimic

Postby kookeekwisp » Thu May 14, 2015 6:12 pm

Mimic is a verb. the name should be "Mime"

also, this is an overrated role idea suggested many times.
It's not that i'm against a role like this. in fact, i would LOVE to see a role like this to be implemented in Town of Salem!
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Re: Mimic

Postby Speaker » Thu May 14, 2015 6:35 pm

So how does this work? Do you visit a person N1 then cant use their ability N2? Do you know what the ability is? If not, how is this different from a witch?
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Re: Mimic

Postby BlueKnight0729 » Fri May 15, 2015 4:37 pm

kookeekwisp wrote:Mimic is a verb. the name should be "Mime"

also, this is an overrated role idea suggested many times.
It's not that i'm against a role like this. in fact, i would LOVE to see a role like this to be implemented in Town of Salem!

Mime: n. the theatrical technique of suggesting action, character, or emotion without words, using only gesture, expression, and movement.
Mimic: n. a person skilled in imitating the voice, mannerisms, or movements of others in an entertaining way.
Of course, it can be a verb and an adjective as well, but Mimic is a valid term. However I have been contemplating the names Copycat and Impersonator also.

Also, apparently the masterthread is there now, it wasn't there when I checked for it last time, but yeah, I saw the Mirror and Mogul, however, they are Town and Mafia members, and appear to only copy Town roles according to their descriptions, so it is different.

speaker wrote:So how does this work? Do you visit a person N1 then cant use their ability N2? Do you know what the ability is? If not, how is this different from a witch?
You choose 2 targets, like a witch or transporter would. You copy person 1, then use it on person 2. You do not know what the ability is unless of course there is an obvious tell like an investigative not given to you. With the Mimic, you do the action, and the copied person proceeds as normally, while the Witch alters what her target does. While in most cases the Witch would seem more useful, it would be a lot more useful for mimics to mimic roles such as investigatives. Additionally, people do not know that they were copied, though they do know they were controlled. Lastly, if a Mimic can identify a mafia member somehow, they can utilize that to copy them and act as another mafia member utilizing their ability, whether it be blackmailing, cleaning, framing, etc.
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