Jester not Killing (Select, then Deselect a Target)

[lizardman123]

Vale here, hijacking this OP to clarify the contents of this thread (especially since several threads have been merged into it). The main bug reported in this thread is the jester being able to not kill someone by selecting and then deselecting a target.

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Original OP:
I was in a game that came down to 1 jester, 1 mafia, and 1 vet. The jester was voted up, and only the mafia voted guilty. That night, the mafia didn't die of guilt. I was under the impression that jester haunting happens at random if you don't pick, but according to the jester in question, he clicked to haunt the mafia, then clicked him again to change his mind. The result? The mafia didn't die of guilt.
Spoiler:

[Sturps]

That's..... interesting.
I think you automatically choose a guilty voter if you don't choose yourself, but I never thought that choosing and then retracting that would do this.
Kinda odd how I haven't seen this happen yet. :/

[Arckas]

Though I have not seen for myself, I have been hearing about jester not killing lately in-game. This is definatly a glitch in the game. As to what causes it, I don't know. I am sure that it wasn't because he changed his mind because the game is supposed to do it randomly if the jester doesn't decide.

How the hell did I get ninja'd?

[GaaraOfDaFunk]

I was executioner and my target ended up getting killed by the mafia.
Eventually it was down to a survivor, godfather, veteran, spy and jester (me).
I eventually got lynched and I had a choice between the godfather and the spy.

I started to kill the godfather but then I backed out (about 10 seconds before night ended).
The next day, the only kill was from mafia.

According to town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Jester....... "If you are lynched, you may kill one of your guilty voters the following night. This ignores any protection of night immunity. If you do not choose anyone, the game will choose randomly among the guilty voters. "
Shouldn't the game randomly pick who dies if the jester does not?


I do have screenshots
HOWEVER the screenshots do contain some "harsh and offensive" language.

http://imgur.com/3qjSZCK
http://imgur.com/CQsxmCx
http://imgur.com/Um2OhS7

Screen shot 1 shows I did vote to kill someone, but then I backed out.
Screen shot 2 shows that no one died for lynching the jester.
Screen shot 3 show that jester won even though he did not kill anyone.

[LevinSnakesRise]

I've been trying to tell people for a while now that the game hasn't forced me, as Jester, to choose a target, but no one ever listens to Naru. No, they would rather believe otherwise. ;~;
In the case it's supposed to be that way; It's not a bug. If it isn't, then it is. I believe it isn't.

[enderitem]

As far as I remember, the random kill doesn't happen if you choose somebody and cancel it but I don't know if he didn't choose one in the first place. The random kill SHOULD happen though so it is indeed a bug. Thank you for reporting it.

[Arckas]

What I'm going to assume looking at the screen shot was that the any was a mafia second disguiser.

Garra won (jester)
I live gg won (mafia)
Dense idiot won (mafia)
Shuffle won (mafia)
Hurry would have won if he did not leave (mafia)

You can say that there was a survivor.

What I'm going to say is that this happened because you randomly haunted the disguiser and the disguiser disguised as someone, or that you haunted the person who was the disguisers target.

[GaaraOfDaFunk]

What I'm going to assume looking at the screen shot was that the any was a mafia second disguiser.

Garra won (jester)
I live gg won (mafia)
Dense idiot won (mafia)
Shuffle won (mafia)
Hurry would have won if he did not leave (mafia)

You can say that there was a survivor.

What I'm going to say is that this happened because you randomly haunted the disguiser and the disguiser disguised as someone, or that you haunted the person who was the disguisers target.

No, the any was the mafasio. The mafia support was the consig, and the mafia deception was the disguiser.
The mafasio had to be the any.

And even if you were correct, someone would have had to die from guilt. Right?

[Segaco]

if u dont choose, the game auto picks, thats right.

i think that this is a bug, wait, actually, this IS a bug.

[GaaraOfDaFunk]

if u dont choose, the game auto picks, thats right.

i think that this is a bug, wait, actually, this IS a bug.

Yes, if jester does not choose who to kill then the game is supposed to auto pick.

HOWEVER, I did not kill anyone.

[Segaco]

what i said: it IS a bug

[Witchaven]

I can confirm that the auto-pick has worked for me in the past. However, that was before some of the more recent patches and also, I hadn't selected and cancelled a target so perhaps this is the key.

[Chaoisia]

Not 100% sure if this is a bug or not.

Spoiler:

I got lynched as a jester.
I was gonna choose someone but I changed my mind.
I had at least 15 seconds left in the night after changing my mind.
Still no one died.

I've done this before and have had the system randomly choose for me and kill someone.

Either option is a bug I'd say because it's not 100%

Scenario

• Game One: - I got lynched as a Jester and chose to kill someone at night. Changed my mind before time ran out and someone still died from guilt.
• Game Two: - I got lynched as a Jester and chose to kill someone at night. Changed my mind before time ran out and this time no one died.

I don't know which one is a bug but they both have happened to me.

Also screw you faith. You have failed me.

[enderitem]

If you change your mind and don't choose anyone after that. The game will not choose for you. This is indeed a bug. Thank you for reporting.

[theelfoflorien]

Spoiler:
As shown here in the image above, Jester was Hanged and only one person voted guilty, that one person should have died? right? The image is of the Chat log the day of the lynching, and the rest is the Day after, where it shows no one dead, especially Teal who voted Guilty.

[LevinSnakesRise]

Apparently Jester no longer automatically kills, or it does, but is bugged in some games.

At this point, it's anyone's guess until Blake and Josh can confirm what's going on with the coding.

[theelfoflorien]

Ok thank you for the quick response.

[Witchaven]

Just played a game where the Werewolf didn't die to the Jester during a full moon, not sure if this should be the case or not?

Roles: Werewolf, Jester, Veteran and Vigilante.

We hung the Jester on Day 2 and the Werewolf was the only person to vote guilty but the Werewolf didn't die that night to the Jester (full moon night). As far as I know the Jester didn't click on the Werewolf's name that night so it should have randomly selected a guilty voting player to kill but the Werewolf was the only person that voted guilty.

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P.S. Why does the forum search function ignore the word Jester (and other useful search words)? It makes searching for existing reports quite tiresome.

[ValeforRaine]

There's currently a bug where, if the jester selects then deselects someone, they won't kill. That's probably what happened.

Also, I have no idea why the search function is so terrible, but you aren't the only one with complaints about it. -sigh-

[iggyvolz]

The word "Jester" is too common... it thinks it's a common word like "the" or "an".

[LevinSnakesRise]

Also, Transporter could also screw up the haunting of the Werewolf as well.

[Frogspawn225]

Also, Transporter could also screw up the haunting of the Werewolf as well.

Except someone would still have to die from the Jester if a Trans swapped the WW.
Also the entire role list consisted of a Vig, Vet, Jester and WW so clearly no chance of a Trans. I would expect that Vale is right and it is just a case of the Jester deselected their target.

[Witchaven]

The word "Jester" is too common... it thinks it's a common word like "the" or "an".

Could that setting be changed or is there an exception list that can be used? Unless there are significant downsides to it? As it stands the search function is pretty much useless if you are checking to see if a bug was reported already or not.

There's currently a bug where, if the jester selects then deselects someone, they won't kill. That's probably what happened.

I had forgotten about this one, I'd say this could be what happened. Unfortunately, the Jester in question wasn't particularly helpful with saying what his night actions were. He told me he was 'saving it for the next night'!

[Ciara]

I'll be moving this to Bug Reports, since the glitch with Jester selecting and deselecting is still there, and changing the title so it hints more towards that as being the issue. Since it'll remain unlocked, please do not continue the discussion regarding search features. If anyone does, I'll be removing all posts concerning the matter.

[Kiyosen]

The Jester haunt glitch is known, where if you select and de-select, you don't haunt. This also applies to the Arsonist and cleaning. But this topic is mainly about this:

http://imgur.com/zPWoMQT (Apparently I can't turn it into an image because it couldn't determine the dimensions of the image...)

(Don't mind my computer being in Windows XP, my cousin was playing on my laptop, so I used the old one...)

So, the Mayor apparently abstained when she claimed to have voted guilty on a 1v1 Mayor vs Amnesiac turned Arsonist. Is it due to the Jester haunt glitch or is it due to something else?
(Sorry if mentioning a glitch to others is an offense, as I did not know that mentioning a glitch is an offense.)