16B: Change of Pace | Game Over (Town win)

[EvanManManMan]

i have a curse of getting lynched as the most important town role TPow/TK

lynched d1 specifically*

Maybe you should actually leaelrn how to play the game you are trying to play

[UzayAltay]

i have a curse of getting lynched as the most important town role TPow/TK

lynched d1 specifically*

Because You make yourself scummy with as This Roles .
Just play How You play as citizen . It is The best way , even it is More stressful Than playing citizen ( especially as TPow and TI ) I saw A lot of Times The PRs who want to fly under The radar ( or scumread ) give town More damage Than benefit .

[Gooose26]

Killing Uzay is the perfect way to frame me considering he just made a whole post saying to lynch me no matter what.

If Uzay was alive, you would've been lynched no matter what you said. That is why you got rid of him, it was your only chance to win.

This was the only post I read in this game and I immediately knew that Evil was scum after reading it. I was also in this exact situation and chose correctly in F3 with this logic in a MU game a few weeks ago, so....yeah.

If I was in Evil's position, I leave Uzay alive and try to convince people that the Mafia left Uzay alive so they can sheep him on Evil.

Sam vs Evil was pretty clearly TvS, meaning that I would've been killed and then Evil would've been left with Uzay who is going to vote ED and Sam who was going to vote ED.

Evil leaving both Uzay and Sam alive could be viewed as dumb and could mislead town into thinking that Mafia was setting up an Evil ML.

Wouldn't matter. Despite that idea Sam knows Evil is scum and Uzay is voting Evil either way, they made that clear.

[Chemist1422]

So what's the verdict on the reworks?

[BasicFourLife]

So what's the verdict on the reworks?

Vig, Marshal and Prankster ones are good. Doctor one is unneeded. Lookout and BM ones would require more testing.

[BasicFourLife]

So what's the verdict on the reworks?

Vig, Marshal and Prankster ones are good. Doctor one is unneeded. Lookout and BM ones would require more testing.

and Medium is incredibly weak now. Just remove it

[Eragon1329]

wait medium cant talk to the dead town anymore???

[BasicFourLife]

wait medium cant talk to the dead town anymore???

Yup, it cant

[Eragon1329]

well thats bullshit

[BasicFourLife]

well thats bullshit

Med is BS anyways

[Crimson97]

Med's ability can be game defining but there's also a lot of times where it will be useless too, unlike most of the other PRs.

[UzayAltay]

BS have You asked Mechanichal questions for towncred ?

[BS4125]

BS have You asked Mechanichal questions for towncred ?

Nope, sometimes I just ask because I find information easier to be told to me than finding it, and lazy

[UzayAltay]

BS have You asked Mechanichal questions for towncred ?

Nope, sometimes I just ask because I find information easier to be told to me than finding it, and lazy

Okay , I was thinking you were Mafia anyways , and thinking You Did that for towncred Because of A Mafia could just ask in Mafia chat .

[BS4125]

BS have You asked Mechanichal questions for towncred ?

Nope, sometimes I just ask because I find information easier to be told to me than finding it, and lazy

Okay , I was thinking you were Mafia anyways , and thinking You Did that for towncred Because of A Mafia could just ask in Mafia chat .

That makes no sense with how you would scumread me from that bit ok

[UzayAltay]

BS have You asked Mechanichal questions for towncred ?

Nope, sometimes I just ask because I find information easier to be told to me than finding it, and lazy

Okay , I was thinking you were Mafia anyways , and thinking You Did that for towncred Because of A Mafia could just ask in Mafia chat .

That makes no sense with how you would scumread me from that bit ok

Who Said I havent lied when scumreading ? I could see You being Mafia , Because of You Did everything other mafias Do , even believing Evan part was enough . But I knew it wasnt enough to convince others . I even want to call your claim fake when You and Kmenx claimed , but couldnt see it is possible both Max and Parallax could be town possibly ( cant realize possibility of x2 consort or 1 consort 1 Prankster )
And Yes , it was one of The reasons I scumread You , they seems fake when I First read it , but I wouldnt even speaking about them If I wasnt scumreading You with other reasons . For example , I was Also thinking Crimson's First reaction to Jalandh claim BMed was fake , but I Never spoke about him from , Day 3 or Day 4 ( not sure which ) . It was about Same , normally It is NAI but me Trying to give value to them . I Also Did Same thing against Eragon , I realized he was scum , and Than start to give other things he Did value .

[BS4125]

BS have You asked Mechanichal questions for towncred ?

Nope, sometimes I just ask because I find information easier to be told to me than finding it, and lazy

Okay , I was thinking you were Mafia anyways , and thinking You Did that for towncred Because of A Mafia could just ask in Mafia chat .

That makes no sense with how you would scumread me from that bit ok

Who Said I havent lied when scumreading ? I could see You being Mafia , Because of You Did everything other mafias Do , even believing Evan part was enough . But I knew it wasnt enough to convince others . I even want to call your claim fake when You and Kmenx claimed , but couldnt see it is possible both Max and Parallax could be town possibly ( cant realize possibility of x2 consort or 1 consort 1 Prankster )
And Yes , it was one of The reasons I scumread You , they seems fake when I First read it , but I wouldnt even speaking about them If I wasnt scumreading You with other reasons . For example , I was Also thinking Crimson's First reaction to Jalandh claim BMed was fake , but I Never spoke about him from , Day 3 or Day 4 ( not sure which ) . It was about Same , normally It is NAI but me Trying to give value to them . I Also Did Same thing against Eragon , I realized he was scum , and Than start to give other things he Did value .

You can scumread me on other stuff where it makes sense, but if something I do makes sense for if I’m Town or Mafia, then it’s not indicative because just because you believe I’m Mafia doesn’t mean that something which could be seen as Town or Mafia indicative is from a Mafia perspective, unless it directly links with it which it doesn’t

Also about Para, I did say that I wanted to townread him but couldn’t cos the gambit was not sensical, because it really wasn’t, and you forget that me and M4x was confirmed TvS so why would I say “M4x looks Town” ?

[UzayAltay]

BS have You asked Mechanichal questions for towncred ?

Nope, sometimes I just ask because I find information easier to be told to me than finding it, and lazy

Okay , I was thinking you were Mafia anyways , and thinking You Did that for towncred Because of A Mafia could just ask in Mafia chat .

That makes no sense with how you would scumread me from that bit ok

Who Said I havent lied when scumreading ? I could see You being Mafia , Because of You Did everything other mafias Do , even believing Evan part was enough . But I knew it wasnt enough to convince others . I even want to call your claim fake when You and Kmenx claimed , but couldnt see it is possible both Max and Parallax could be town possibly ( cant realize possibility of x2 consort or 1 consort 1 Prankster )
And Yes , it was one of The reasons I scumread You , they seems fake when I First read it , but I wouldnt even speaking about them If I wasnt scumreading You with other reasons . For example , I was Also thinking Crimson's First reaction to Jalandh claim BMed was fake , but I Never spoke about him from , Day 3 or Day 4 ( not sure which ) . It was about Same , normally It is NAI but me Trying to give value to them . I Also Did Same thing against Eragon , I realized he was scum , and Than start to give other things he Did value .

You can scumread me on other stuff where it makes sense, but if something I do makes sense for if I’m Town or Mafia, then it’s not indicative because just because you believe I’m Mafia doesn’t mean that something which could be seen as Town or Mafia indicative is from a Mafia perspective, unless it directly links with it which it doesn’t

Also about Para, I did say that I wanted to townread him but couldn’t cos the gambit was not sensical, because it really wasn’t, and you forget that me and M4x was confirmed TvS so why would I say “M4x looks Town” ?

I categorize NAI in 2 section , 1 is The ones which is NAI Because NAI . 2 is NAI Because We cant know What Alignment it come from . There is Nothing to Do about 1st one , but I can still comment on or value The second , it is still possible to think scum!BS ( You are example ) or town!BS would likely Do that . Maybe it is A thing I shouldn't Do , but I cant stop myself from doing that .
I Dont understand What Do You want to say with Last sentence , but I am sure I seriously want to believe both Veena and Para was town at Day 5 ( look at This Quote )

Sorry was eating lunch

We agree on Kmenx lynch?

What's the case on Kmenx, other than believing Evan was framed?
Are there any other key points, because I believe Para has more and more associations

TBH Parallax is More suspicious Than Veena but not More Than Kmenx . The problem with Veena v Parallax is I wont suprised If Parallax flip scum and Veena flip town . I wont suprised , too , with Parallax flips town , and Veena flips scum . TBH If there is A way for that , I want to think both are town but it is mechanical impossible , right ? If it is impossible , Dont know . Kmenx claiming A Result on Overkill and Max being blocked is keep pinging me , Why waste A such important Roleblock ? Parallax scum scenario seems More probable to me but I still Dont know .
TBH I was suprised with your escort claim , I was thinking there is no escort and A Prankster or some Mafia lies , and A consort . ( was More thinking on Prankster from start , retraining consort with Capo ) But it seems legit at that moment .

At The First moment when I see Your and Kmenx's claim cames , it seems fake to me Because I was scumreading both ( The one on You was small , Kmenx's was about lock and I wasnt even thinking to think about anyone else being scum before lynch Kmenx ) . Than Veena claims , and I havent realized it is mechanically possible both Para and Veena could be town . My opinion was there has to be one scum in Para v Veena , but have no Idea who is that . Kmenx was Almost definitely scum . Crimson was obvious town . You was town by PoE Unless 3 scum claims PR , which was probably not The case .
At The Day Kmenx claimed scum , I started to think on mechanically prove Veena is scum . Thinked , thinked , about 30-40 minutes , with writing , no , I couldnt prove . Than I remember your behavior at yesterday , I remember Veena's and Crimson's behaviours at yesterday . I immadieatly see Crimson is not scum here , and after looked your and Veena/Overkill's Isos , It was obvious for me who is scum here .

[UzayAltay]

PS - Going to sleep , wont answer any question 12+ hour probably .